Re: [Evolution] Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing.

2014-10-05 Thread Chris
On Sun, 2014-10-05 at 23:43 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > But at the very beginning when Evo loads there is this:
> > 
> > (evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS SQL
> > database in sql:/etc/pki/nssdb: NSS error -8126
> > 
> > (evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Cannot load summary file
> > '/home/chris/.local/share/evolution/mail/1283386590.6219.2@localhost/.ev-store-summary':
> >  Unknown error
> 
> I don't think they are a problem - just warning messages.
> 
> > 
> > Another error that is further down the log shows this when I run Evo
> > with this command and also with the command above:
> > 
> > CAMEL_DEBUG=mail:io evolution >& /home/chris/evodebug1.txt
> > 
> > (evolution:25025): evolution-mail-WARNING **: Failed to refresh folder
> > 'ChrisP: INBOX/directory': Error refreshing folder: Mailbox does not
> > exist, or must be subscribed to.
> 
> Again, I don't think that's serious - if you are subscribed to a folder
> try unsubscribing, then re-subscribing; I suspect the message will then
> go away.
> 
> > 
> > So, if you want to take a look at the file at pastebin and tell me what
> > you think I'd appreciate it. In my Maildir folder there is no 'INBOX'
> > folder, Inbox has three separate folders cur, new and tmp. 
> 
> 'INBOX' is the namespace that courier presents to the IMAP client, so
> there isn't an actual folder called 'INBOX' - think of it as the name
> given to the place where the mail folders reside.
> 
> > Remember I
> > did not have this issue until upgrading to Evo 3.12.6. Worked fine in
> > the previous version.
> 
> Yes, I understand that.  But presumably you not only upgraded Evo, but
> other things, like courier, as well when you changed your machine?
> Things do change in Evo as versions change - but you never said what the
> previous version of Evo was so I don't know exactly what is different.
When I built the Ubuntu 14.04 box back in July it was running Evo 3.10.? (can't 
remember)
there were no problems with Evo.
About a week or so ago is when I upgraded to 14.04.1 and Evo 3.12.6
that's when the problems began. 
> Anyway, I can't see anything obvious in the logs. To be honest it has
> the feel of something being too fast - as if it's trying to do something
> before another process has completed.
> 
> How do you connect to the IMAP server?  i.e. what address do you put in
> the "IMAP server name" box?

Address is 127.0.0.1, port 143

> You could also try accessing these mail folders directly as a Maildir
> account within Evo rather than using Courier/IMAP as an intermediary.
> 
> P.
I went to the account that I guess can be called 'local' it's named 'on this 
computer' mail
sent from that appears to have no issues.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing.

2014-10-05 Thread Pete Biggs


> But at the very beginning when Evo loads there is this:
> 
> (evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS SQL
> database in sql:/etc/pki/nssdb: NSS error -8126
> 
> (evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Cannot load summary file
> '/home/chris/.local/share/evolution/mail/1283386590.6219.2@localhost/.ev-store-summary':
>  Unknown error

I don't think they are a problem - just warning messages.

> 
> Another error that is further down the log shows this when I run Evo
> with this command and also with the command above:
> 
> CAMEL_DEBUG=mail:io evolution >& /home/chris/evodebug1.txt
> 
> (evolution:25025): evolution-mail-WARNING **: Failed to refresh folder
> 'ChrisP: INBOX/directory': Error refreshing folder: Mailbox does not
> exist, or must be subscribed to.

Again, I don't think that's serious - if you are subscribed to a folder
try unsubscribing, then re-subscribing; I suspect the message will then
go away.

> 
> So, if you want to take a look at the file at pastebin and tell me what
> you think I'd appreciate it. In my Maildir folder there is no 'INBOX'
> folder, Inbox has three separate folders cur, new and tmp. 

'INBOX' is the namespace that courier presents to the IMAP client, so
there isn't an actual folder called 'INBOX' - think of it as the name
given to the place where the mail folders reside.

> Remember I
> did not have this issue until upgrading to Evo 3.12.6. Worked fine in
> the previous version.

Yes, I understand that.  But presumably you not only upgraded Evo, but
other things, like courier, as well when you changed your machine?
Things do change in Evo as versions change - but you never said what the
previous version of Evo was so I don't know exactly what is different.

Anyway, I can't see anything obvious in the logs. To be honest it has
the feel of something being too fast - as if it's trying to do something
before another process has completed.

How do you connect to the IMAP server?  i.e. what address do you put in
the "IMAP server name" box?

You could also try accessing these mail folders directly as a Maildir
account within Evo rather than using Courier/IMAP as an intermediary.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing.

2014-10-05 Thread Chris
On Sun, 2014-10-05 at 17:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > 
> > I can't find any logs for courier or the imap daemon anywhere.
> 
> I think Courier uses syslog, so they will be in one of the standard log
> files.  You may have to have a look at the courier configuration to see
> what service and severity the logs are issued as - and possibly adjust
> the syslog config to put them somewhere sensible.  You may have to
> enable some debugging level to see more detail.
> 
> >  The issue
> > is still intermittent. Of 5 test posts to myself 2 saved to the right
> > sent folder the other 3 showed the error. Stopping the imap daemon of
> > course kills the connection.
> > 
> Have you run Evolution from the command line to see if there are any
> errors you aren't seeing.  You may need to turn on some debugging
> variables as well to see more detail.
> 
> P.
> 
Pete, I've listed the errors in the courier list and the and the author
of courier has said they have nothing to do with it. I've found some
debug commands for Evo, I've run this command

CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution >& /home/chris/evodebug.txt

and pasted the output in pastebin

http://pastebin.com/p6ynWVq3

But at the very beginning when Evo loads there is this:

(evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS SQL
database in sql:/etc/pki/nssdb: NSS error -8126

(evolution:25940): camel-WARNING **: Cannot load summary file
'/home/chris/.local/share/evolution/mail/1283386590.6219.2@localhost/.ev-store-summary':
 Unknown error

Another error that is further down the log shows this when I run Evo
with this command and also with the command above:

CAMEL_DEBUG=mail:io evolution >& /home/chris/evodebug1.txt

(evolution:25025): evolution-mail-WARNING **: Failed to refresh folder
'ChrisP: INBOX/directory': Error refreshing folder: Mailbox does not
exist, or must be subscribed to.

So, if you want to take a look at the file at pastebin and tell me what
you think I'd appreciate it. In my Maildir folder there is no 'INBOX'
folder, Inbox has three separate folders cur, new and tmp. Remember I
did not have this issue until upgrading to Evo 3.12.6. Worked fine in
the previous version.

Chris

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Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-05 Thread Alexander Miller
On Sun, 2014-10-05 at 18:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:

> >  
> > While the issue of IMAP v. POP has been widely commented, I have not
> > seen comments in the thread about the Linux Mint update procedure
> > outlined here:
> 
> This is an Evolution list, not a Mint one, and we try to be as distro
> agnostic as possible.  Personally, I do not have experience of any
> Debian based distro (i.e. Debian, Ubunutu, Mint, etc.) so, without that
> knowledge, all I can say is to "make a backup of your home directory" -
> it's up to the user to know, or find out, how to do that on their
> distro.  There's only so much we can do!
> 
> >  
> > The process involves making an backup of the home directory (for which
> > Mint provides a tool), which would include the Evo data. I would
> > follow the Evo backup procedure to try to restore later. However, the
> > Mint update procedure should be sufficient to assure that there is a
> > separate copy of all data.
> 
> To be honest you would be better off using the Evo backup as a back-stop
> and actually migrate the data using the new version of Evo running on
> the restored copy of the home directory.


Not sure to whom this is addressed? It appears to be a response to a
post of which I don't have - or maybe haven't retained - a copy.
Thanks for all the helpful advice.
No need to reply :)
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Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-05 Thread Pete Biggs

>  
> While the issue of IMAP v. POP has been widely commented, I have not
> seen comments in the thread about the Linux Mint update procedure
> outlined here:

This is an Evolution list, not a Mint one, and we try to be as distro
agnostic as possible.  Personally, I do not have experience of any
Debian based distro (i.e. Debian, Ubunutu, Mint, etc.) so, without that
knowledge, all I can say is to "make a backup of your home directory" -
it's up to the user to know, or find out, how to do that on their
distro.  There's only so much we can do!

>  
> The process involves making an backup of the home directory (for which
> Mint provides a tool), which would include the Evo data. I would
> follow the Evo backup procedure to try to restore later. However, the
> Mint update procedure should be sufficient to assure that there is a
> separate copy of all data.

To be honest you would be better off using the Evo backup as a back-stop
and actually migrate the data using the new version of Evo running on
the restored copy of the home directory.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing.

2014-10-05 Thread Pete Biggs

> > 
> I can't find any logs for courier or the imap daemon anywhere.

I think Courier uses syslog, so they will be in one of the standard log
files.  You may have to have a look at the courier configuration to see
what service and severity the logs are issued as - and possibly adjust
the syslog config to put them somewhere sensible.  You may have to
enable some debugging level to see more detail.

>  The issue
> is still intermittent. Of 5 test posts to myself 2 saved to the right
> sent folder the other 3 showed the error. Stopping the imap daemon of
> course kills the connection.
> 
Have you run Evolution from the command line to see if there are any
errors you aren't seeing.  You may need to turn on some debugging
variables as well to see more detail.

P.

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