Re: [Evolution] Mail shows new messages but I cannot see them

2015-03-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Did you sort by Received?

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Re: [Evolution] Mail shows new messages but I cannot see them

2015-03-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:45 -0400, Glenn Gay wrote:
 I sent messages to my email account. I get indications of unread
 messages in Evolution, but I cannot see the messages.

https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-cannot-see.html

Cheers,
andre
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Re: [Evolution] Mail shows new messages but I cannot see them

2015-03-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:45 -0400, Glenn Gay wrote:
 I sent messages to my email account. I get indications of unread
 messages in Evolution, but I cannot see the messages. Can you help me
 see these messages?

Is anything selected by the Show box or an entry in the Search
field?

Is your request related to Evolution version 3.4.4?

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Roy Reese
 On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 17:46 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
  My apologizes for my ignorance with using an incorrect method. Is there
  a method in evolution to prompt a different reply methods in lieu of
  the global option?

 The default settings for replying and forwarding can be changed under
 Edit ▸ Preferences ▸ Composer Preferences ▸ General ▸ Replies and
 Forwards ▸ Reply style.

 (from
 https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-reply.html )
 
 I think the OP may have been asking if there is a way to do this
 differently according to the kind of message. That could be a useful
 option, e.g. when replying to a list versus a non-list message.

Given that HTML seems the prevalent form these days, in part being the 
default for most if not all webmail accounts and perhaps others, I 
would second Patrick's suggestion.
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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Pete Biggs

  
  I think the OP may have been asking if there is a way to do this
  differently according to the kind of message. That could be a useful
  option, e.g. when replying to a list versus a non-list message.
 
 Given that HTML seems the prevalent form these days, in part being the 
 default for most if not all webmail accounts and perhaps others, I 
 would second Patrick's suggestion.

It's nothing to do with HTML, it's to do with how people deal with the
email they are replying to.  The reply style is independent of the
format of email you are replying to.

And I would STRONGLY refute your assertion that HTML is prevalent these
days - less than about 5% of the emails I receive (that aren't spam) are
HTML.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 09:49 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
   
   I think the OP may have been asking if there is a way to do this
   differently according to the kind of message. That could be a useful
   option, e.g. when replying to a list versus a non-list message.
  
  Given that HTML seems the prevalent form these days, in part being the 
  default for most if not all webmail accounts and perhaps others, I 
  would second Patrick's suggestion.
 
 It's nothing to do with HTML, it's to do with how people deal with the
 email they are replying to.  The reply style is independent of the
 format of email you are replying to.

Exactly. Also, this isn't really my suggestion as I don't care about it.
I was merely interpreting what I thought the original request was.
Anyone interested should file an RFE on Bugzilla.

 And I would STRONGLY refute your assertion that HTML is prevalent these
 days - less than about 5% of the emails I receive (that aren't spam) are
 HTML.

Same here, but I don't know if anyone really knows. Most of my mail in
terms of numbers of messages comes through lists such as this one, in
which HTML is strongly discouraged. Most of the rest is from people
using some kind of webmail, or an app on their phone, and that tends to
be in the form of rich text. Not much is HTML aside from marketing.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 12:02 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 09:49 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
  And I would STRONGLY refute your assertion that HTML is prevalent these
  days - less than about 5% of the emails I receive (that aren't spam) are
  HTML.
 
 Same here, but I don't know if anyone really knows. Most of my mail in
 terms of numbers of messages comes through lists such as this one, in
 which HTML is strongly discouraged. Most of the rest is from people
 using some kind of webmail, or an app on their phone, and that tends to
 be in the form of rich text. Not much is HTML aside from marketing.

Most mails I receive are from Linux and FreeBSD mailing lists and less
of them are HTML formatted, most are plain text. Most private mails I
receive from people who aren't geeks, are HTML formatted, less are plain
text or RTF.

My guess is that HTML is prevalent, but that doesn't mean that it's
good. I share incoming mails by Evolution and Claws. I set up claws to
only display plain text, but since sometimes important HTML mails are
hard to read in plain text, I allow Evolution to display HTML. However,
I set up Evolution to _never_ allow to load images from the Internet.

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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 09:51 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:
 Given that HTML seems the prevalent form these days

Many scholars state, it is believed/regarded, many are of the opinion,
most feel, experts declare, it is often reported, it is widely thought,
research has shown, science says:  -- [Citation needed].

andre
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Roy Reese
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 12:02 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 09:49 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
  And I would STRONGLY refute your assertion that HTML is prevalent these
  days - less than about 5% of the emails I receive (that aren't spam) are
  HTML.

 Same here, but I don't know if anyone really knows. Most of my mail in
 terms of numbers of messages comes through lists such as this one, in
 which HTML is strongly discouraged. Most of the rest is from people
 using some kind of webmail, or an app on their phone, and that tends to
 be in the form of rich text. Not much is HTML aside from marketing.
 
 Most mails I receive are from Linux and FreeBSD mailing lists and less
 of them are HTML formatted, most are plain text. Most private mails I
 receive from people who aren't geeks, are HTML formatted, less are plain
 text or RTF.


OK, I did not mean to set off a firestorm here.

Andre, you're quite right to challenge the generalization -- which goes for the 
strong challenge as well. It will depend quite a bit on the mix of messages 
and the application one uses for writing them. I receive quite a bit of 
newsletters, so, yes, it is all HTML. I also use web interfaces at times when 
away from my computers, so my sample is skewed. Someone receiving messages 
primarily from listservs and developers certainly sees a different mix as Ralf 
points out.

Patrick, you properly called me out for adding idle chat rather than acting on 
my beliefs. An enhancement request has been filed here:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746211

Best,
Roy
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[Evolution] Mail shows new messages but I cannot see them

2015-03-14 Thread Glenn Gay
I sent messages to my email account. I get indications of unread
messages in Evolution, but I cannot see the messages. Can you help me
see these messages?

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Re: [Evolution] Mail shows new messages but I cannot see them

2015-03-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 11:45 -0400, Glenn Gay wrote:
 I sent messages to my email account. I get indications of unread
 messages in Evolution, but I cannot see the messages. Can you help me
 see these messages?

Not without more information.

At a minimum, you need to say what version of Evolution you have
(Help-About) and what kind of mail account this is (POP, IMAP,
Exchange, ...). And if you sent these messages from the same Evo
instance or from another mail client, and if the latter if it was on the
same machine or a different one. Otherwise, any opinion is pure
guesswork.

poc

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