Re: [Evolution] Problems getting to Gmail

2015-06-30 Thread Tom
Am Montag, den 29.06.2015, 13:18 +0100 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
> On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 14:06 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 18:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > I should have realised that of course. Perhaps "No Proxy" or 
> > > "Direct
> > > Connection" would be slightly clearer.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > okay, let's make it "No proxy" [1]. There is a description which
> > explains what the option does, it's only not visible within the 
> > combo,
> > thus one doesn't know till the value is picked.
> > 
> 
> Very good. Now that's what I call service :-)
+1

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Re: [Evolution] Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint Cinnamon

2015-06-30 Thread Pete Biggs

> My main frustration with Evolution is that there is no "command line" to
> work from.It's all from the GUI, which is fine ...when everything
> works

Evolution is a GUI mail client.  It's part of Gnome, which is a GUI
desktop environment.  But it still has a "command line".

> i.e. in
> practice...never

That's not the experience of most people.  If it didn't work, people
wouldn't use it - but it's frustrating that people think it doesn't
work when they use old unmaintained versions.

> 
> 
> In this case, if you can give me some instructions on how I can diagnose
> what is going wrong when I loose mail, then I'd be happy to run some
> tests.

Help -> Contents has a section on debugging things.

You could also look at
 
 https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging

All these things require Evolution to be started from the command line!
Virtually all the help that is given here and on the web starts with
"run evolution from the command line to see if there are any problems".
If that doesn't show up any issues, turn on some of the debugging.  You
still haven't said anything about your setup - like if you are using
POP or IMAP - but I presume you are using POP, in that case you need to
run Evolution as 

CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile

from that you will be able to see if anything fails.
  
> 
> All the software I run on the client side is "Standard" for Mint
> Cinnamom.

That means nothing to most people.

> All the server software is set up using "ISPCONFIG" from the
> "HowToForge" website:
> www.howtoforge.com

What server software?  Are you running your own mail server?

> 
> If I knew more about how the mail is being downloaded and if I could see
> what is happening during the download process when it is interrupted,
> then I'm sure i could find out what is going wrong.

Run Evolution in debug mode.  You'll get considerably more information
about what's going on than you could possibly need.

Can I also say that finding out how to do this is not difficult. Google
for "debug evolution" comes up with the above website as the first hit.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Mails lost with Evolution 3.10.4 on Mint Cinnamon

2015-06-30 Thread Stephen Howe
Dear Patrick,

My main frustration with Evolution is that there is no "command line" to
work from.
It's all from the GUI, which is fine ...when everything worksi.e. in
practice...never
If I wanted everything to "work" from the GUI...I'd use windows
millenium or something 

In this case, if you can give me some instructions on how I can diagnose
what is going wrong when I loose mail, then I'd be happy to run some
tests.

All the software I run on the client side is "Standard" for Mint
Cinnamom.
All the server software is set up using "ISPCONFIG" from the
"HowToForge" website:
www.howtoforge.com

If I knew more about how the mail is being downloaded and if I could see
what is happening during the download process when it is interrupted,
then I'm sure i could find out what is going wrong.

On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 11:56 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 11:43 +0200, Stephen Howe wrote:
> > 1.What can I do to recover these messages ?
> > 2. Is there a work-round for this problem ?
> 
> I'm surprised Evo is losing email. That should never happen. However if
> you are using POP (you don't say anything about your setup) you might
> consider switching to IMAP and keeping your mail on the server.
> 
> poc
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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

2015-06-30 Thread Rudolf Künzli
On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 17:44 +1000, dean wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:56 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > > I update my system every morning as a matter of course,
> > 
> > Which is probably far more aggressive than necessary for most 
> > users.
> > 
> > > what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 
> > > months
> > 
> > 6 months is a pretty aggressive time-line.
> > 
> > > and only supports the current release and the previous one. 
> > > Releases
> > > over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
> > > upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take 
> > > specific
> > > steps to do.
> > 
> > Of course.  So there are (a) rolling releases or (b) distributions 
> > that
> > support in place updates [most these days, I would think?].  For
> > openSUSE (a) is Tumbleweed and (b) is "zypper dup" [Distribution
> > UPdate].
> > 
> > Anyway, either Fedora or openSUSE on a desktop should provide a
> > reasonably current installation of GNOME and/or Evolution.
> 
> Just a fyi Debian is also a good choice. Stable is released every 2-3
> years and testing is a rolling release which includes Evolution 
> 3.16.3

I update my systems every day. It takes about 5 minutes for each one
which is not a "high price" when I consider that all of them are
running the most recent version.

The upgrade from Fedora 21 to Fedora 22 did run about 2 hours over the
network. It's worth to invest this time !

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Re: [Evolution] failed to connect to google error

2015-06-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:26 -0500, Howdy Doody wrote:
> Failed to connect to 'Google'
> The requested resource was not found: 
> https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps
> 
> And have the option to reconnect.
> 
> That sometimes makes the error go away for a bit, sometimes not.
> 
> What can I do?

Wait for the fix for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750148

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Re: [Evolution] moving folders

2015-06-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 06:47 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote:
> Hi, how did you manage to get to 3.2.3 even on ubuntu 12? - I only
> could
> gt as far as 3.10 4 - on ubuntu 14.04.

3.2 was released in 2011/2012.
3.10 was released in 2013/2014.

10 > 2.

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Re: [Evolution] new to evo

2015-06-30 Thread dean
On Mon, 2015-06-29 at 16:56 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 12:43 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 07:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > I update my system every morning as a matter of course,
> 
> Which is probably far more aggressive than necessary for most users.
> 
> > what I'm talking about. Fedora brings out a new release every 6 
> > months
> 
> 6 months is a pretty aggressive time-line.
> 
> > and only supports the current release and the previous one. 
> > Releases
> > over a year old will not get even critical security updates, so
> > upgrading the release is something the sysadmin has to take 
> > specific
> > steps to do.
> 
> Of course.  So there are (a) rolling releases or (b) distributions 
> that
> support in place updates [most these days, I would think?].  For
> openSUSE (a) is Tumbleweed and (b) is "zypper dup" [Distribution
> UPdate].
> 
> Anyway, either Fedora or openSUSE on a desktop should provide a
> reasonably current installation of GNOME and/or Evolution.

Just a fyi Debian is also a good choice. Stable is released every 2-3
years and testing is a rolling release which includes Evolution 3.16.3
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