Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 15:01 +1100, Ian wrote:
> Pete, I can't find anywhere to change themes in my version, in fact
> there is no mention of themes at all. I couldn't view the help
> (selecting Help Contents did nothing) so I found the help on the net.
> It
> had no mention of themes in it either. Not sure where to look next.

The theme is handled by your desktop environment, not by Evolution.
Look at your DE settings.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi Ian,

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100, Ian wrote:
>It seems the official repositories override any PPAs present, even if
>(or maybe because) they contain newer versions.

no, you most likely made an error. There are several possibilities what
you might have done wrong. I suspect pinning isn't the issue, but
assumed you already added and enabled the repository, you perhaps
forgot to update, before you upgraded. If you didn't sync the package
index, the package management isn't aware about the new packages.

Reload, resp. synch the package index:

sudo apt-get update

Assumed the PPA split Evolution in packages the Ubuntu way, you don't
need to remove or purge an existing version of Evolution, you just need
to upgrade:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Warning! Assumed you should have made this mistake, then it's not a
good idea to install packages from a third party repository. Using
third party repositories could break your install, if you don't
understand what you're doing.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: [Evolution] Can't get CalDAV calendar work with evolution

[Andre Klapper]

Hi,

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 12:23 +0100, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
> I'm new to this list looking for a calendar for my debian with mate DE.
> So I wanted to give evolution a try. But I can't get it to work with my
> CalDAV resource from Web.de. 
> 
> I entered the address (which is doing fine with korganizer and
> icalendar on a mac). When I click on "Search calendar" in the
> properties of the CalDAV account in evolution nothing happens. No
> error message, but no calendar shown that I could select. 

Which Evolution version is this about?

> P.S. There are no error messages starting evolution on the console
> neither. Even with
> CALDAV_DEBUG={all} /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >&
> logfile
> the logfile is empty.

That parameter should be without brackets: 
CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >&> logfile

I guess
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging#Calendar_Backends
is pretty misleading as it's not the first time I've seen this...

andre
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
multiple versions of the OS and various installations.

-e

On 12/31/15 08:30, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:55:29 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>> I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
>> prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named
>> evolution packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution
>> background running programs. Then I downloaded the source, and
>> compiled it.
>
> To get build dependencies there are several ways to archive this,
> installing the devel packages, that belong to a package of
> software you want to build, unlikely does the job. One way that might
> work is to run
>
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get build-dep 
> evolution
>
> but this might not install all dependencies, that might be required for
> a new version of Evolution, it just will install the build dependencies
> required for the source package. Anyway, it might work.
>
> There are also several ways to build Evolution packages or just one package
> containing all in one, instead of installing it without building a package.
>
> It doesn't harm if the OP backups the install before continuing.
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Re: [Evolution] Can't get CalDAV calendar work with evolution

[Ulrich Fürst]

Thank you two for helping me on this last day of the year!

Andre Klapper wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 12:23 +0100, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
> > I'm new to this list looking for a calendar for my debian with mate
> > DE. So I wanted to give evolution a try. But I can't get it to work
> > with my CalDAV resource from Web.de. 
> > 
> > I entered the address (which is doing fine with korganizer and
> > icalendar on a mac). When I click on "Search calendar" in the
> > properties of the CalDAV account in evolution nothing happens. No
> > error message, but no calendar shown that I could select. 
> 
> Which Evolution version is this about?

Sorry, I've totally forgotten to mention: Evolution is 3.12.9 
(debian stable on amd64)

> > P.S. There are no error messages starting evolution on the console
> > neither. Even with
> > CALDAV_DEBUG={all} /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >&
> > logfile
> > the logfile is empty.
> 
> That parameter should be without brackets: 
> CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
> >&> logfile

O.k. I used
CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >\ 
 caldav.log 2>&1

The logfile is still empty. 
I started the command above in one terminal window and then startet
evolution in another one. 

$ evolution 

(evolution:11319): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files 

java version "1.7.0_91" 
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.6.3)(7u91-2.6.3-1~deb8u1) 
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.91-b01, mixed mode)

Is all evolution says. 

Ulrich 


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
> Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
> multiple versions of the OS and various installations.

I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages on
Arch Linux too?

The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
>I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux

"elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS

So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).

However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution likely
requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
required for an older version of Evolution.


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

Yeah, whatever the pre-req's are they need to be installed obviously.
Here's the configure steps that I use for compiling (after installing
the pre-req's):

drwxrwxr-x 25 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 14:53 evolution-3.16.5
drwxrwxr-x  6 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 15:05 evolution-ews-3.16.5
drwxrwxr-x 19 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 19:04 evolution-data-server-3.16.5
[foo@bar evo-3.16.5]$ cat ~/Documents/evolution.txt
compile evolution:

c/cxxflags:
export CFLAGS="-mtune=native -march=native -g"
export CXXFLAGS="-mtune=native -march=native -g"

evolution-data-server:
./configure --disable-uoa --with-openldap --with-contact-maps

evolution: (disabled gnome-autoar)
./configure --with-openldap --enable-contact-maps --enable-plugins=all
--disable-autoar

evolution-ews:
./configure



On 12/31/15 09:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 14:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>>> Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
>>> multiple versions of the OS and various installations.
>>
>> I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages
>> on
>> Arch Linux too?
>>
>> The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
>>> I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux
>>
>> "elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
>> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS
>>
>> So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
>> dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).
>>
>> However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution
>> likely
>> requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
>> not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
>> dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
>> required for an older version of Evolution.
>
> PS: When building Evolution there's also to consider that building it's
> data-server is required.
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Re: [Evolution] Can't get CalDAV calendar work with evolution

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 12:23 +0100, Ulrich Fürst wrote:
> Can anybody help me? (Solving or debugging)

Usually the specific distro or desktop is unimportant, but please
always quote your version of Evolution (Help->About).

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named evolution
packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution background running
programs. Then I downloaded the source, and compiled it.

On 12/31/15 03:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100, Ian wrote:
>> It seems the official repositories override any PPAs present, even if
>> (or maybe because) they contain newer versions.
>
> no, you most likely made an error. There are several possibilities what
> you might have done wrong. I suspect pinning isn't the issue, but
> assumed you already added and enabled the repository, you perhaps
> forgot to update, before you upgraded. If you didn't sync the package
> index, the package management isn't aware about the new packages.
>
> Reload, resp. synch the package index:
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> Assumed the PPA split Evolution in packages the Ubuntu way, you don't
> need to remove or purge an existing version of Evolution, you just need
> to upgrade:
>
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> Warning! Assumed you should have made this mistake, then it's not a
> good idea to install packages from a third party repository. Using
> third party repositories could break your install, if you don't
> understand what you're doing.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 14:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
> > Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
> > multiple versions of the OS and various installations.
> 
> I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages
> on
> Arch Linux too?
> 
> The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
> > I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux
> 
> "elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS
> 
> So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
> dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).
> 
> However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution
> likely
> requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
> not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
> dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
> required for an older version of Evolution.

PS: When building Evolution there's also to consider that building it's
data-server is required.
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[Evolution] Can't get CalDAV calendar work with evolution

[Ulrich Fürst]

Hello everybody, 

I'm new to this list looking for a calendar for my debian with mate DE.
So I wanted to give evolution a try. But I can't get it to work with my
CalDAV resource from Web.de. 

I entered the address (which is doing fine with korganizer and
icalendar on a mac). When I click on "Search calendar" in the
properties of the CalDAV account in evolution nothing happens. No error
message, but no calendar shown that I could select. 

Am I doing something wrong? Or don't Web.de and evolution work
together? 

Can anybody help me? (Solving or debugging)

Ulrich Fürst

P.S. There are no error messages starting evolution on the console
neither. Even with
CALDAV_DEBUG={all} /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >&
logfile
the logfile is empty. 


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:55:29 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
>prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named
>evolution packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution
>background running programs. Then I downloaded the source, and
>compiled it.

To get build dependencies there are several ways to archive this,
installing the devel packages, that belong to a package of
software you want to build, unlikely does the job. One way that might
work is to run

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get build-dep 
evolution

but this might not install all dependencies, that might be required for
a new version of Evolution, it just will install the build dependencies
required for the source package. Anyway, it might work.

There are also several ways to build Evolution packages or just one package
containing all in one, instead of installing it without building a package.

It doesn't harm if the OP backups the install before continuing.
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Re: [Evolution] Can't get CalDAV calendar work with evolution

[Ulrich Fürst]

Andre Klapper wrote:
> Ulrich Fürst wrote: 
> > P.S. There are no error messages starting evolution on the console
> > neither. Even with
> > CALDAV_DEBUG={all} /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory >&
> > logfile
> > the logfile is empty.
> 
> That parameter should be without brackets: 
> CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
> >&> logfile

O.k. starting evolution as:
$ CALDAV_DEBUG=all evolution 

says:

< 
< 
< 401 Authorization Required
< 
< Authorization Required
< This server could not verify that you
< are authorized to access the document
< requested.  Either you supplied the wrong
< credentials (e.g., bad password), or your
< browser doesn't understand how to supply
< the credentials required.
< 

I think this means, that this provider and evolution don't work
together? (I c the password and user name ...)

Ulrich

(evolution:17315): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
java version "1.7.0_91"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.6.3) (7u91-2.6.3-1~deb8u1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.91-b01, mixed mode)

** (evolution:17315): WARNING **: Shell not finalized on exit
> PROPFIND / HTTP/1.1
> Soup-Debug-Timestamp: 1451577528
> Soup-Debug: SoupSession 1 (0x7f77cb28c140), SoupMessage 1 (0x7f77c8184e40), SoupSocket 1 (0x7f7734003440)
> Host: kalender.web.de
> User-Agent: Evolution/3.12.9
> Depth: 0
> Content-Type: application/xml
> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> Connection: Keep-Alive
> 
> http://calendarserver.org/ns/; xmlns:IC="http://apple.com/ns/ical/; xmlns:D="DAV:">
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
  
< HTTP/1.1 405 Method Not Allowed
< Soup-Debug-Timestamp: 1451577528
< Soup-Debug: SoupMessage 1 (0x7f77c8184e40)
< Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:58:48 GMT
< Server: Apache
< Allow: GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS
< Vary: Accept-Encoding
< Content-Encoding: gzip
< Content-Length: 184
< Connection: close
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
< 
< 
< 
< 405 Method Not Allowed
< 
< Method Not Allowed
< The requested method PROPFIND is not allowed for the URL /.
< 
  


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:20:38 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>Yeah, whatever the pre-req's are they need to be installed obviously.
>Here's the configure steps that I use for compiling (after installing
>the pre-req's):

Explaining how to compile and if wanted how to build a package for an
Ubuntu derivative distro isn't the issue, if there should be no
dependency inconsistencies. The issue is that there most likely will be
inconsistencies and most likely they cause a dependency hell.

On the right site of the Debian Tracker links there are the Ubuntu
related sources:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/evolution-data-server
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/evolution

The sources include patches, configure options, build dependencies, all
the needed info to build split packages for Ubuntu flavours and
most likely for the Ubuntu derivative the OP is using too.

Ubuntu even provides already Evolution 3.18.3 by the official
repositories of the development branch.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/evolution

Instead of using your hints, the OP should use the Debian/Ubuntu
sources and package build tools, assumed building Evolution should be
an option for the OP. I doubt that it's possible to build latest
version of Evolution by using shared libraries from the official
repositories of the Ubuntu release the OP's distro is based upon.

It's not impossible to build Evolution, but it most likely requires
much more effort, than just providing a few config options. Maybe the
PPA the OP wants to use, does provide evolution, perhaps without the
need to use shared libraries or by updating shared libraries too.

To cut a long story short, if you like to provide hints, take care
about the distro the OP is using. Actually I don't know the OP's
distro, but I at least have some knowledge about Ubuntu flavours. Other
than e.g. Arch and maybe the RPM based distro you are using, Ubuntu is
a release model distro with likely outdated dependencies, IOW it's
most likely not that easy to build latest Evolution for a distro based
on a release of Ubuntu.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[John Lauterbach]

Ian, upgrades to evolution require software that is only available in later
versions of the operating system.  If you upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10, you will get
evolution 3.16.2.  Ubuntu 15.10 is very stable (much more so than Windows 10),
and I have been using it on both 32-bit and 64-bit PCs w/o a problem.  Evolution
3.16.2 has a couple of bugs in it with respect to generating business-quality e-
mail that have been fixed with 3.18.2.  Getting from 3.16.2 to 3.18.2 requires
the gnome3-team and gnome3-team staging PPAs.

John

-Original Message-
From: Ian 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] email colours
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100

Thanks to John and Pete for your replies.

John, I have tried to install a later version but no luck. I found a ppa
(ppa:fta/gno,e3) which has 3.16.1, but when I removed and reinstalled Evolution
it installed the same version again (3.10.4). It seems the official repositories
override any PPAs present, even if (or maybe because) they contain newer
versions. The only other download I could find was a tar.xz. I downloaded that
and started reading the README, I got about half way through and gave up, way
too complex for me to attempt.

Pete, I can't find anywhere to change themes in my version, in fact there is no
mention of themes at all. I couldn't view the help (selecting Help Contents did
nothing) so I found the help on the net. It had no mention of themes in it
either. Not sure where to look next.

Thanks,
Ian
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