Re: [Evolution] Moved messages disappear from source, never show in destination

2016-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 13:26 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On further investigation, it seems that what's happening is this:
>  * User selects a block of messages to move that is larger than some
>    internal limit.
>  * As the move process proceeds, the messages are marked deleted from
>    the origin folder, but have not yet been copied to the
> destination.
>  * The move fails with no notice.
>  * The original state of messages in the origin folder is not
> restored,
>    so the messages remain invisible in that client.

It's extremely unlikely that Evo has removed messages before storing
them on the new folder as the standard method on IMAP is to copy, then
delete the original (or IIRC to use an IMAPX primitive that does an
atomic move), but I can't speak to what happens on EWS. Have you
selected Show Deleted Messages in the origin folder?

poc
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 15:13 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 10:31 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > Don't send multipart messages that contain HTML to mailing lists.
> > It's common practise to send plain text mails only.
> For future reference, could this be expressed in a friendlier way?
> "Don't do..." could also be "Could you please avoid doing...".

+1

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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 10:31 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Don't send multipart messages that contain HTML to mailing lists.
> It's common practise to send plain text mails only.

For future reference, could this be expressed in a friendlier way?
"Don't do..." could also be "Could you please avoid doing...".

Thanks.

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Moved messages disappear from source, never show in destination

2016-04-10 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2016-04-08 at 14:09 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I have an EWS account--I don't know if it's an issue with other
> types. 
> 
> Sometimes (but not always) when I select a block of messages and move
> them from my inbox to another folder, the messages are removed from
> the
> list in the inbox but are not moved to the destination folder. I
> access
> the account with evolution on multiple machines, and each time I see
> the
> messages in my inbox, but when I try to move them, they fail to
> move. 
> 
> Accessing the account via a browser shows that the messages are still
> in
> my inbox, but no amount of syncing (send/receive button or refresh
> option in the right-click menu on the account or the folder) short of
> deleting and recreating the account gets them to show in Evolution in
> a
> client where I tried the move.
> 
> This occurs in Evolution 3.12.11 on CentOS 7 and 3.18.5.2 on Fedora
> 23.
> (But I had the problem once before, a couple of years ago. I had
> given
> the messages up for lost, but they suddenly reappeared when I created
> the account on another client machine.)
> 
> Bug, or PEBKAC?

On further investigation, it seems that what's happening is this:
 * User selects a block of messages to move that is larger than some
   internal limit.
 * As the move process proceeds, the messages are marked deleted from
   the origin folder, but have not yet been copied to the destination.
 * The move fails with no notice.
 * The original state of messages in the origin folder is not restored,
   so the messages remain invisible in that client.

> 
> TIA.
> -- 
> Matthew Saltzman
> Clemson University Math Sciences
> mjs AT clemson DOT edu
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 07:23 +, Chris Black wrote:
> I need to set the "From" address for a GMail account linked to
> Evolution via Gnome Online Accounts.  Setting "Reply-to" isn't
> enough, since people still accidentally end up saving and using the
> "From" address anyway.  Gmail's web interface and Thunderbird both
> allow this, but in Evolution I can only find an option to type it
> manually per-message.
>  

To change the From: address in Gmail you need to setup a second address
and server that Gmail uses to send the email through.  You use the same
technique in Evolution - setup a new account with a "Receiving" option
of "None" and correctly fill in the outgoing server/username/password.
The From: address will now appear in a dropdown at the top of the
message.

P.
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Re: [Evolution] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 07:23 +, Chris Black wrote:
> I need to set the "From" address for a GMail account linked to
> Evolution 
> via Gnome Online Accounts.  Setting "Reply-to" isn't enough, since 
> people still accidentally end up saving and using the "From" address 
> anyway.  Gmail's web interface and Thunderbird both allow this, but
> in 
> Evolution I can only find an option to type it manually per-message.
> 
> Is this an option somewhere that I've overlooked?  I'm using
> Evolution 
> 3.18.1 on a fresh install of Fedora 23.  I'd be happy to explain the 
> use-case if needed.

This may be helpful:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-March/msg00077.html

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Re: [Evolution] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 10:31 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Don't send multipart messages that contain HTML to mailing lists.
> It's common practise to send plain text mails only.

I'd be a little less strict. As long as the mail contains a plaintext
equivalent, I can ignore the HTML (which I do). What's frowned on is
sending HTML-only emails.

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Re: [Evolution] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi,

I don't understand what issue you have got with selecting a "from"
address, but perhaps this is related to Gnome Online Account. However,
you make two mistakes when writing to this mailing list.

Don't use a reply-to header when writing mails to mailing lists. For
some MUAs this breaks "reply to mailing list", if lists do not override
the reply-to header. There are good reasons for an MUA not to behave as
Evolution does and to care about not overridden reply-to headers.

Don't send multipart messages that contain HTML to mailing lists. It's
common practise to send plain text mails only.

Regards,
Ralf

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[Evolution] Change default "from" address with GMail (Gnome Online Account)

2016-04-10 Thread Chris Black
I need to set the "From" address for a GMail account linked to Evolution 
via Gnome Online Accounts.  Setting "Reply-to" isn't enough, since 
people still accidentally end up saving and using the "From" address 
anyway.  Gmail's web interface and Thunderbird both allow this, but in 
Evolution I can only find an option to type it manually per-message.


Is this an option somewhere that I've overlooked?  I'm using Evolution 
3.18.1 on a fresh install of Fedora 23.  I'd be happy to explain the 
use-case if needed.


Thank you,
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