Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
Ugh OK On Nov 23, 2016 6:20 AM, "Benjamin Selzer" wrote: > > Here you say use GOA, but in other posts the recommendation is to > > NOT use GOA for Gmail due to the calendar issues that occur every > > day around 5pm Eastern time. > > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? > > Use GOA for Contacts, not Calendar. > Use Evolution [native] for Calendar. > > That would be my interpretation [but I don't use Google, so...] > > In the previous message: """You can even enable only Contacts part in > GOA, and use the rest from within the evolution""" > > -Original Message- > From: Milan Crha > > it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL, > neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You > may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually > "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again > and again... > > ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2. > You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from > within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install > gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts. > > > > -- > Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers > 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 > E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 15:45 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 15:28 +0100, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 08:59 -0500, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > > > > > > > > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? > > Hi, > you are right, it's confusing. If you read my post carefully, then > you'll realize I said to use GOA only for Contacts. Basically because > that old version doesn't have implemented internal OAuth2 for Google, > thus there is no other option for Bart. > > > > > > > > > The advice for that version of Evolution (and up to 3.16.x I > > > believe) was to provision accounts using GOA. > > The internal Google OAuth2 was added for 3.20.0. > > > > > I read once that 3.22.5 should be somewhere in the Fedora Test > > Repositories, but I never found them Still waiting... > > It'll take some time, a) 3.22.x is for Fedora 25, b) specifically the > 3.22.5 release is planned for Monday, February 13th, 2017. > > I guess you meant 3.20.6. That's true, I plan to release it by the > end > of this month, +/-. There will precede a little mail to this mailing > list from me. Stay tuned. > > There was built a test package for Fedora 24, but that's already gone > from koji (fedora build server), because test builds do not last for > long. It wasn't meant to be in testing repository (like available > with > `dnf update`), because I wanted longer testing of those changes. > Bye, > Milan > Fedora 25 with Evo 3.22.1 has been released yesterday and I am on the way to upgrade right now. I hope my google calendar problem has been solved now :-) > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 15:28 +0100, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 08:59 -0500, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > > > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? Hi, you are right, it's confusing. If you read my post carefully, then you'll realize I said to use GOA only for Contacts. Basically because that old version doesn't have implemented internal OAuth2 for Google, thus there is no other option for Bart. > > The advice for that version of Evolution (and up to 3.16.x I > > believe) was to provision accounts using GOA. The internal Google OAuth2 was added for 3.20.0. > I read once that 3.22.5 should be somewhere in the Fedora Test > Repositories, but I never found them Still waiting... It'll take some time, a) 3.22.x is for Fedora 25, b) specifically the 3.22.5 release is planned for Monday, February 13th, 2017. I guess you meant 3.20.6. That's true, I plan to release it by the end of this month, +/-. There will precede a little mail to this mailing list from me. Stay tuned. There was built a test package for Fedora 24, but that's already gone from koji (fedora build server), because test builds do not last for long. It wasn't meant to be in testing repository (like available with `dnf update`), because I wanted longer testing of those changes. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 14:41 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > Right, and I always have problems with Google Calendars in Evo > > 3.20.5 > > with Fedora 24. > > I read once that 3.22.5 should be somewhere in the Fedora Test > > Repositories, but I never found them > > No, there's no 3.22.5 yet. Fedora 25 has 3.22.1, the latest in > Fedora > 24 is 3.20.5. > > 3.22.2 was released on 7th Nov but isn't yet in Fedora. > > > > > Still waiting... > > I suspect it'll be a few months wait for 3.22.5 :-) > > P. > Thanks! Some times I am patient... ;-) > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
> > Right, and I always have problems with Google Calendars in Evo 3.20.5 > with Fedora 24. > I read once that 3.22.5 should be somewhere in the Fedora Test > Repositories, but I never found them No, there's no 3.22.5 yet. Fedora 25 has 3.22.1, the latest in Fedora 24 is 3.20.5. 3.22.2 was released on 7th Nov but isn't yet in Fedora. > Still waiting... I suspect it'll be a few months wait for 3.22.5 :-) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 14:23 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > Here you say use GOA, but in other posts the recommendation is to > > NOT > > use GOA for Gmail due to the calendar issues that occur every day > > around 5pm Eastern time. > > > > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? > > > > The OP is using an ancient version of Evolution (3.12.x) which does > not > have native OAuth2, hence contacts doesn't work. The advice for that > version of Evolution (and up to 3.16.x I believe) was to provision > accounts using GOA. > > This is exactly why we always keep going on at people to tell us the > version of Evolution they are using - things change between versions, > sometimes there are significant changes, sometimes not, but unless > you > take note of the version being used it's very easy to lead people > astray. > > Actually, TBH, neither was there any advice in later versions to not > use GOA because of whatever calendar problems. It is recommended > that > you use native Evolution methods wherever possible as Evolution has > more control over them - but it is actually the Evolution > implementation of Google calendar accounts that was having problems, > not the GOA one. > > P. Right, and I always have problems with Google Calendars in Evo 3.20.5 with Fedora 24. I read once that 3.22.5 should be somewhere in the Fedora Test Repositories, but I never found them Still waiting... > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
> > Here you say use GOA, but in other posts the recommendation is to NOT > use GOA for Gmail due to the calendar issues that occur every day > around 5pm Eastern time. > > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? > The OP is using an ancient version of Evolution (3.12.x) which does not have native OAuth2, hence contacts doesn't work. The advice for that version of Evolution (and up to 3.16.x I believe) was to provision accounts using GOA. This is exactly why we always keep going on at people to tell us the version of Evolution they are using - things change between versions, sometimes there are significant changes, sometimes not, but unless you take note of the version being used it's very easy to lead people astray. Actually, TBH, neither was there any advice in later versions to not use GOA because of whatever calendar problems. It is recommended that you use native Evolution methods wherever possible as Evolution has more control over them - but it is actually the Evolution implementation of Google calendar accounts that was having problems, not the GOA one. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
> Here you say use GOA, but in other posts the recommendation is to > NOT use GOA for Gmail due to the calendar issues that occur every > day around 5pm Eastern time. > So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? Use GOA for Contacts, not Calendar. Use Evolution [native] for Calendar. That would be my interpretation [but I don't use Google, so...] In the previous message: """You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from within the evolution""" -Original Message- From: Milan Crha it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL, neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again and again... ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2. You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts. -- Meetings Coordinator, Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 Web: http://www.marp.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
Milan: Here you say use GOA, but in other posts the recommendation is to NOT use GOA for Gmail due to the calendar issues that occur every day around 5pm Eastern time. So which is it? Use GOA or not us GOA? B. -Original Message- From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 14:45:39 +0100 On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 10:43 +0100, Bart Vliegen wrote: > ... not Gnome Online Accounts ... > > https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps > > > > Since Evolution is not in Debian backports, does this mean that I > can't sync my Gmail contacts while I am using the current stable > Debian release Jessie without installing a newer version of Evolution > from outside the official Debian repositories? Hi, it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL, neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again and again... ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2. You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 10:43 +0100, Bart Vliegen wrote: > ... not Gnome Online Accounts ... > > https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps > > > > Since Evolution is not in Debian backports, does this mean that I > can't sync my Gmail contacts while I am using the current stable > Debian release Jessie without installing a newer version of Evolution > from outside the official Debian repositories? Hi, it looks like you didn't try to search the archives with the above URL, neither GNOME's bugzilla, because otherwise you'd know the answer. You may even get pretty good answers with "Gmail contacts", eventually "Google contacts" in this list archive. It's a pita to repeat it again and again... ...and again: Use GNOME Online Accounts (GOA), that provides OAuth2. You can even enable only Contacts part in GOA, and use the rest from within the evolution. As you do not use GNOME, just run/install gnome-control-center from where you can access Online Accounts. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] syncing Gmail contacts
I am using Evolution 3.12.9 on Debian Jessie. I have set up Gmail using Evolution, not Gnome Online Accounts (I am using the XFCE desktop). Mail and calendar work fine, but I can't sync my Google contacts. I get a message saying Evolution can't open this address book, because of an invalid URI or unavailable server, resource not found, https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/AuthForInstalledApps (this is my translation of the Dutch message). When I go to this google url, it says: Important: ClientLogin has been officially deprecated since April 20, 2012 and is now no longer available. Requests to ClientLogin will fail with a HTTP 404 response. We encourage you to migrate to OAuth 2.0 as soon as possible. I assume that this issue was fixed in later versions of Evolution. When I was using Evo 3.22.x on Debian Stretch (testing version) I could sync my Gmail contacts in Evolution. Since Evolution is not in Debian backports, does this mean that I can't sync my Gmail contacts while I am using the current stable Debian release Jessie without installing a newer version of Evolution from outside the official Debian repositories? Regards, Bart ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
