Re: [Evolution] spool directory always none

2016-12-30 Thread Pete Biggs

> OTOH your system *is* out of date. Scientific Linux was essentially
> RHEL with some extra packages, but is no longer supported except for
> security updates.

No, sorry, SL is *still* RHEL - the OP is using SL 7.2, which is the
same as RHEL 7.2 and CentOS 7.2 (with extra packages). It is a bit out
of date since RHEL/CentOS is now at 7.3 (but Evolution is still
3.12.11)

P.
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Re: [Evolution] LDAP Frustration

2016-12-30 Thread Michael Hirmke
Hi,

[...]
>> any reason, why you are using LDAP instead of using the native Exchange
>> EWS connector and pull the address books as Outlook does?

>I presume it's because the OP is trying to get information from Active
>Directory and not from an Exchange server - they are different things.

oops, you're right, of course.
I used Exchange with AD for such a long time, that I couldn't imagine an
AD environment without Exchange.

>TBH my experience of using AD as if it's a native LDAP server has never
>been very fruitful. It always seems as if MS has tweaked it to make it
>incompatible with "standard" LDAP.  But it is a few years since I tried
>it.

In fact it is really easy to get information from AD via LDAP and even
LDAPS (if this port is open) *if* you get the authentication right. You
can't get anything using anonymous access, because by default the guest
account is locked. But if you authenticate using a valid dn with a valid
password everything should work smoothly.

[...]
>P.

Bye.
Michael.
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Michael Hirmke
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Re: [Evolution] spool directory always none

2016-12-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:23 +0100, luigi wrote:
> Hi all,
> before to reinstall evolution , I delete $HOME/.local/share/evolution
> and $HOME/.config/.evolution.

If you're doing that then reinstalling the Evolution packages really is
a waste of time. Absolutely nothing will change.

> The version 3.12.11 of evolution is the last version of Scientific Linux
> 7.2.
> I use either: 
> 1)POP account with the problem that I cannot leave messages on the mail
> server 

What exactly happens when you try this? Please give the actual error
messages you see. Are you sure your email provider allows Leave On
Server (e.g. does it work with other mail clients such as Thunderbird?)

(You may want to consider switching to IMAP if your provider supports
it. It's better in every way.)

> 2)local account with the problem that I can not set the spool file.

Again, what are you doing and what error messages do you get?

> I would understand if my Scientific Linux 7.2 is misconfigured and I
> must reinstall it

Don't assume that everything is fixable by reinstalling. We're not
talking about Windows here.

OTOH your system *is* out of date. Scientific Linux was essentially
RHEL with some extra packages, but is no longer supported except for
security updates. That means you are heading for trouble sooner or
later because at some point the software you use will no longer be
updated (like Evolution). I would recommend taking a look at CentOS and
adding the specific additional packages you need.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] spool directory always none

2016-12-30 Thread luigi
Hi all,
before to reinstall evolution , I delete $HOME/.local/share/evolution
and $HOME/.config/.evolution.
The version 3.12.11 of evolution is the last version of Scientific Linux
7.2.
I use either: 
1)POP account with the problem that I cannot leave messages on the mail
server 
2)local account with the problem that I can not set the spool file.

I would understand if my Scientific Linux 7.2 is misconfigured and I
must reinstall it

Luigi

  

Il giorno gio, 29/12/2016 alle 11.40 +, Patrick O'Callaghan ha
scritto:
> On Wed, 2016-12-28 at 20:36 +0100, luigi wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I use Evolution version 3.12.11 in a Scientific Linux release 7.2
> > (Nitrogen). Since a few weeks, I'm not able to change the preference of
> > any mail account. In particular, 
> > 1) I can not setting the file spool mbox: when I select a spool file
> > in /var/spool/mail/ it is alwaye setting to "none" and I obtain the
> > following messages:  evolution-mail-WARNING **:
> > receive_update_got_folderinfo:  Store root (null) is not an absolute
> > path.
> > 2) I can not leave messages on the mail server. When I check this
> > option , it is always uncheck.
> > 
> > I have uninstall and reinstall evolution, but the problem remains.
> 
> Reinstalling Evolution (or indeed any Linux package) is almost never a
> useful thing to do as the specific settings are kept in your home
> directory and not changed by reinstallation.
> 
> Version 3.12.x of Evolution is very out of date, so you should try to
> get a later version if it exists for your distro.
> 
> You haven't said what kind of mail accounts you use (IMAP, POP,
> Exchange, ...). This makes a big difference in the possible causes of
> your problem.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] LDAP Frustration

2016-12-30 Thread Adam Tauno Williams

Quoting Pete Biggs :

> I'm trying to set up Evolution (v3.18.5.2, as installed by Ubuntu
> 16.04)  to pull GAL information from our Active Directory, but it is
> unbelievably frustrating.

I presume it's because the OP is trying to get information from Active
Directory and not from an Exchange server - they are different things.
TBH my experience of using AD as if it's a native LDAP server has never
been very fruitful. It always seems as if MS has tweaked it to make it
incompatible with "standard" LDAP.  But it is a few years since I tried
it.


I have done alot with AD via LDAP.  Their LDAP is pretty good - but it  
is a very complete LDAP configuration with detailed access control  
provisions, including SSF ... very unlike most Open Source LDAP  
installs which generally play fast-n-loose with security [likely  
because setting things up well in OpenLDAP is crazy tedious - and the  
documentation is awful].  One of ADs real advantages is that it says  
this-is-how-it-works-deal-with-it.


Aside: SSF is Security Strength Factor, so what you can do on a  
connection depends NOT ONLY on who you are authenticated as but HOW  
you authenticated and HOW your connection is protected [signed,  
sealed, TLS, etc...].


If you can't start out using the ldapsearch CLI to see what works and  
what doesn't you are going to have a hard time.  Determining that via  
any kind of client is going to be a hair pulling experience.


At least make sure you have Kerberos authentication working.

However, at the end of the day LDAP makes a ***TERRIBLE*** address  
book solution.  Terrible, just terrible.   I spent countless hours  
trying to create a happy LDAP solution, documenting differences in  
schema, clients, etc...  It looks great on paper, but nobody followed  
the rules [*1], so in practice it isn't good for anything other than a  
basic read-only data source.


[*1] And least of all the Open Source community.  LDAP support in most  
Open Source projects is an i-did-not-bother-to-read-the-docs hacked-in  
train wreck.  In defense, to really do LDAP support well a project  
needs to implement a myriad of configuration parameters and  
preferences ...  which most people are going to ignore anyway - then  
proceed to post on the interwebz about how it doesn't work. :(


LDAP is not simple.  It, like XML, is an open ended standard.

If you can use Exchange or a WebDAV (CalDAV/CardDAV) solution you will  
be much better off with that.



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Re: [Evolution] Composing email bugs/I don't know how to do it

2016-12-30 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear John, dear Berend,


Am Montag, den 19.12.2016, 10:24 +0200 schrieb Berend De Schouwer:
> On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 08:54 +0800, John Edward Serink wrote:

> > New email, have name 1 in the TO space,
> > names 1-3 in the CC space.
> > I try and select name3 to move it to the To space, it refuses to
> > select. I highlight it and then try the Linux centre mouse button
> > trick, does not work.
> > I select it and right mouse click so that I can choose copy or cut
> > and when I right mouse click, it unhighlights.
> > I highlight name3 to update it in my address book and when I right
> > mouse clickit un highlights.
> 
> I can replicate this with 3.22.3.
> 
> I can cut and paste using the keyboard: highlight ctrl-c, ctrl-v. 
> 
> Right-click un-highlights, so "copy" does nothing.  I cannot copy and
> paste using the mouse.

Selecting names and pasting with the middle button, works for me,
though just the name is copied and then autocompletion kicks in again.

I am not completely sure, what your exact problem is though. But to get
it fixed, please create a ticket for the Evolution project in the GNOME
bug tracker [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution

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