Re: [Evolution] Trouble with EWS Contacts since Upgrading to 3.24
On Mon, 2017-04-24 at 10:37 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > that "No response: Cancelled" error Hi, as I just wrote into another thread, if you use libsoup 2.58.0, then downgrade to 2.56.0. I've been able to reproduce the issue with 2.58.0, but 2.56.0 works as before, thus it's a problem in libsoup. Related bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781590 Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 15:22 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 13:17 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > It says: "Failed to connect address book.." and the name of the > > address book. And the error message says: "No response: Cancelled" > > I see, maybe it's related to this one: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781590 Hi, if, by any chance, you use libsoup 2.58.0, then please downgrade to 2.56.0. I've been able to reproduce these errors with 2.58.0, but after downgrade it's all fine as before. I updated the above bug accordingly and moved it to libsoup. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] URL formatting annoyance
> > Thanks. Yes, newer and older are relative terms, but the point is that > something changed the behavior rather majorly within the past few > years, and not for the better. The change was a change of composer that was necessitated by the death of some backend toolkit (sorry, can't remember which one ...) > > Since you asked, though, the version (from Linux Mint) which I'm > currently using, and which presents the issue, is 3.18.5.2. The "older" > version, which does not, is 3.10.4. > 3.18.x is also "old" and no longer a supported version - the current ones are 3.22 and 3.24 - so it is unlikely that any changes will make it into the version you are talking about unless your distro backports them. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:13:22 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: >Or I just got use to this approach during the years. Each approach has >its pros and cons. Hi, you aren't alone, the developers of the Jack 2 sound server bump the version after release, too. I'm not aware that anybody else does it like Jack 2 and Evolution do, most (if not all other) developers seemingly consider the git commits as an addition to the released version. On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:56:20 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: >you are right, I didn't notice your second message before sending mine, >while your second message invalidated few of my statements, in a good >way. :) I informed him, that -DVERSION_SUBSTRING="gitX" should be used. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug 773311 - Copy / paste a relatively long url Evolution only convert it to a http link until the line break
On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 10:34 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773311 > > It's already reported as #757504 > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757504 > > and discussed on this list starting at > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-September/msg00 > 195.html > > A workaround is to change the line with the URL to being > 'preformatted' so it doesn't get wrapped. This is the same bug I reported. Yes, the workaround is to manually set the line containing the broken URL to 'preformatted', but this is something of a PITA, it used to be done automatically. The workaround is straightforward enough, which is why I reported the issue as an "annoyance". -- Lindsay Haisley | "The first casualty when FMP Computer Services | war comes is truth." 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com| -- Hiram W Johnson ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 16:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Not really :). As already sent to the list, Hi, you are right, I didn't notice your second message before sending mine, while your second message invalidated few of my statements, in a good way. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] URL formatting annoyance
On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 19:03 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 12:07 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > Some years ago I had an older version of Evolution which automatically > > detected URLs in a plain text message and basically made them preformat > > ted so as not to break them and make them un-clickable on the receiving > > end. This sometimes made for ugly text, but it _worked_! Newer versions > > of Evolution will break a URL arbitrarily, willy-nilly in plain text > > mode - which is useless - and I have to manually insert a line break > > for each line with a long URL and make it preformatted, a bit of a > > PITA. Is there any way to get back to the old behavior? > > > There are few bugs in bugzilla about it - for instance > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757504 > > So it's known about. > > BTW, it's difficult to determine what you mean by "new" or "newer" > without the version of Evolution you are using. Thanks. Yes, newer and older are relative terms, but the point is that something changed the behavior rather majorly within the past few years, and not for the better. Since you asked, though, the version (from Linux Mint) which I'm currently using, and which presents the issue, is 3.18.5.2. The "older" version, which does not, is 3.10.4. -- Lindsay Haisley | "The first casualty when FMP Computer Services | war comes is truth." 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com| -- Hiram W Johnson ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 15:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Maybe you could split the difference :) and care about the > "premature" version bump, the maintainers are willing to add the git > version. > > At https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53840#comment157176 the maintainer > wrote: > > "[snip] I could add -DVERSION_SUBSTRING= and/or -DVERSION_COMMENT= to > our PKGBUILD so it includes the git commit or Archlinux pkgver, but I > won't go into git log to find out which commit does a premature > version bump so I can revert that when packaging a branch snapshot." Hi, okay, that sounds better. Let him use just one of those, better might be -DVERSION_SUBSTRING="gitX", which will generate "X.Y.ZgitX". I understand that it's a pita to hunt for "Post-release version bump" commits, but it also makes sense to bump the version after release, thus it's clear that this version is not 'the previous version'. Or I just got use to this approach during the years. Each approach has its pros and cons. Thanks and bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:47:02 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: >Okay, so Arch is bleeding bleeding bleeding edge distro. Noted. And >it's the only distribution (I know of) doing it this way. Why would one >make changes for one ditro, not the opposite? Distro is for users, no? The Arch Linux policy is to stay as close as possible to official releases from upstream, using default options and without patches. Diverions from upstream default options, adding patches or building from git are exceptions. I suspect that there are valid reasons to make such an exception for GNOME packages. Arch is a real rolling release, there never is a freeze, an approach that fits to the Arch Linux target group. It's not a so called user-friendly distro. Evolution is the only GNOME related software I'm using and the reason for this has nothing to do with the way Arch Linux packager maintain GNOME related packages. I suspect the reason they make this exception for GNOME packages, is the same reason, that I stay completely away from GNOME software, excepted of Evolution. >> - release tarballs are often generated with broken tools > >Often? I disagree with this claim, too. This seemingly is true for GNOME and maybe all bloated desktop environments. >I consider this issue closed/rejected by the Arch package maintainer. Not really :). As already sent to the list, https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-April/msg00135.html , the maintainer is willing to add -DVERSION_SUBSTRING= and/or -DVERSION_COMMENT= to the build process, including the git commit, but not to care about to early increased upstream versions. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder
Milan Crha wrote > On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 04:20 -0700, Finns1000 wrote: >> Installed 3.20 (Think it's the newest I can install on Ubuntu 16.04. >> It did not help. > > Hi, > 3.20 is better than 3.18. And if it brought also evolution-data-server > of the same version (which it should), then even better. > >> When I klick on a folder everything seams fine, but it suddenly ends >> in the middle of an email with this on a new line: >> *[imapx:G] I/O: ''* > > It's not necessarily an issue, it really depends on the context, like > what had been received before the reading stopped. I suppose you still > saw that error in the evolution GUI, right? > > If it's stopping in the middle of the message then it can be that thing > with multi-fetch, where some servers don't like reading of a message in > chunks. It's disabled by default in newly created accounts [1], but you > can verify and eventually change it for existing accounts as well. See > the bottom half of [2] for a way to do that. > > As you connection says 'G' (in that "imapx:G"), maybe consider lowering > number of concurrent connections to the server. It's in GUI this time, > in Receiving Options tab of the IMAP account Properties. Eventually > disable real Trash and Junk folders, in the Defaults tab, just to try > whether it has anything to do with it. If it's already disabled, then > do not enable it. Tried all your suggestions, but same situation. Don't know if it's relevant but I get a lot of theese: *err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x7ea24464 "lock.c: LOCKTABLEENTRY.crit" wait timed out in thread 0062, blocked by 0061, retrying (60 sec)* Finns -- View this message in context: http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/Failed-to-refresh-folder-tp4665299p4665315.html Sent from the Gnome Evolution - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 14:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > don't expect that it will be fixed for Arch packages. Hi, I see. > "Comment by Jan de Groot (JGC) - Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 10:21 GMT > IMHO this is only cosmetic. Distributions package software with > shitloads of patches and changes to default enabled/disabled options > most of the time, so even when evolution -v shows 3.24.1 there's no > warranty that it's the same 3.24.1 you would get when building from a > released tarball with default options. Right. Still it's clear that it's 3.24.1 with added things, rather than unreleased next version. It confuses people even more when you tell them: "hey, you reported the issue against 3.24.2, aha, and that issue *will be* fixed in *the next* 3.24.2 release". Who does understand this? People reading archives? I doubt it. Just nobody but package maintainer of that distro knows how this anomaly could happen. > If upstream cares about versions in evolution -v output, Misunderstanding, upstream cares of Help->About too. > then upstream should not commit "Post-release version bump" but do > that on release. Well, hmm, rather nothing. > We build from git because of 2 main reasons: > - easier to add upstream committed patches Okay, so Arch is bleeding bleeding bleeding edge distro. Noted. And it's the only distribution (I know of) doing it this way. Why would one make changes for one ditro, not the opposite? Distro is for users, no? > - release tarballs are often generated with broken tools Often? Give me a proof, please. Or not. I do not want to argue. The way the reply had been written doesn't sound like leading to anything usable. > I removed it from my comment, since actually Claws' "About" version > string was reformatted by the PKGBUILD, I do not know how they do it, maybe some sort of hook when downloading snapshot or whatever. It doesn't worth to do it in evolution* due to one odd distribution. If they want to make chaos, then it's their call. Anyway, thanks for the follow up Ralph. I consider this issue closed/rejected by the Arch package maintainer. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 04:20 -0700, Finns1000 wrote: > Installed 3.20 (Think it's the newest I can install on Ubuntu 16.04. > It did not help. Hi, 3.20 is better than 3.18. And if it brought also evolution-data-server of the same version (which it should), then even better. > When I klick on a folder everything seams fine, but it suddenly ends > in the middle of an email with this on a new line: > *[imapx:G] I/O: ''* It's not necessarily an issue, it really depends on the context, like what had been received before the reading stopped. I suppose you still saw that error in the evolution GUI, right? If it's stopping in the middle of the message then it can be that thing with multi-fetch, where some servers don't like reading of a message in chunks. It's disabled by default in newly created accounts [1], but you can verify and eventually change it for existing accounts as well. See the bottom half of [2] for a way to do that. As you connection says 'G' (in that "imapx:G"), maybe consider lowering number of concurrent connections to the server. It's in GUI this time, in Receiving Options tab of the IMAP account Properties. Eventually disable real Trash and Junk folders, in the Defaults tab, just to try whether it has anything to do with it. If it's already disabled, then do not enable it. Bye, Milan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761096 [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761096#c1 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 13:17 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > It says: "Failed to connect address book.." and the name of the > address book. And the error message says: "No response: Cancelled" Hi, I see, maybe it's related to this one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781590 > Yes, that sounds similar. But I also have a problem that I do not see > new recieved email for a folder until I restart Evolution, this > happens sometimes.. It can be slightly different outcome with the same cause. But I'm not sure either, thus it requires more investigation. I didn't get it with my accounts at least, which makes it harder to investigate for me. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 14:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:17:48 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > > On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 09:15 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > > I'm getting dislike Arch. You surely do not have 3.24.2, that had not > > > been released yet. > > > > Understand your frustration.. But I see an issue has been created for > > this.. > > [snip] > I edited my comment, the original comment included "Good PKGBUILDs fix > the version string, when building from git. This for example was always > done for claws-mail-git from AUR". I removed it from my comment, since > actually Claws' "About" version string was reformatted by the PKGBUILD, > but the string by default always included the git commit, it wasn't > added by the PKGBUILD (the package build script). Maybe the Evolution > developers could make this the default for Evolution, too, instead of > expecting that package maintainers do it. > [snip] Maybe you could split the difference :) and care about the "premature" version bump, the maintainers are willing to add the git version. At https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53840#comment157176 the maintainer wrote: "[snip] I could add -DVERSION_SUBSTRING= and/or -DVERSION_COMMENT= to our PKGBUILD so it includes the git commit or Archlinux pkgver, but I won't go into git log to find out which commit does a premature version bump so I can revert that when packaging a branch snapshot." Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version information when building from git - Was: Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:17:48 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 09:15 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > I'm getting dislike Arch. You surely do not have 3.24.2, that had not > > been released yet. > > Understand your frustration.. But I see an issue has been created for > this.. Hi, don't expect that it will be fixed for Arch packages. "Comment by Jan de Groot (JGC) - Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 10:21 GMT IMHO this is only cosmetic. Distributions package software with shitloads of patches and changes to default enabled/disabled options most of the time, so even when evolution -v shows 3.24.1 there's no warranty that it's the same 3.24.1 you would get when building from a released tarball with default options. If upstream cares about versions in evolution -v output, then upstream should not commit "Post-release version bump" but do that on release. We build from git because of 2 main reasons: - easier to add upstream committed patches - release tarballs are often generated with broken tools Comment by Ralf Mardorf (Ralf) - Wednesday, 26 April 2017, 11:29 GMT Hi, actually it were _several_ Arch users who sent requests, providing wrong version information. I posted to the mailing list only to correct the version information. What other distros might do is irrelevant for us. It's also unimportant if upstream decides to default to 3.24.1 or 3.24.2, if you compile and package 3.24.1gitabcd. In my experiences, based on following the Evolution mailing list, official releases from upstream are sometimes buggy, but not more or less often, than for the majority of any other software, so IMO there's no reason to divert from the Arch policy. However, if you feel the need to build from git, I don't understand why you won't build with -DVERSION_SUBSTRING="+gitXX" -DVERSION_COMMENT="+gitXX". Anyway, I only wanted to inform you about an issue that arise on the Evolution mailing list, feel free to ignore it. Regards, Ralf" - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53840 I edited my comment, the original comment included "Good PKGBUILDs fix the version string, when building from git. This for example was always done for claws-mail-git from AUR". I removed it from my comment, since actually Claws' "About" version string was reformatted by the PKGBUILD, but the string by default always included the git commit, it wasn't added by the PKGBUILD (the package build script). Maybe the Evolution developers could make this the default for Evolution, too, instead of expecting that package maintainers do it. Regards, Ralf PS: My apologies, I once again sent a mail to the list, by using the wrong account, but actually it was Evolution, that once again failed to select the correct address ;). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 04:20 -0700, Finns1000 wrote: > OK. Thanx! You might want to configure your Reply options to quote part of the message you are commenting on (such as I'm doing here). Otherwise you're forcing people to look at the archives or at other thread messages to understand what you're talking about. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder
OK. Thanx! Installed 3.20 (Think it's the newest I can install on Ubuntu 16.04. It did not help. Guess I have to wait for Ubuntu to add a newer version. The output from debug doesn't tell me mutch. When I klick on a folder everything seams fine, but it suddenly ends in the middle of an email with this on a new line: *[imapx:G] I/O: ''* -- View this message in context: http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/Failed-to-refresh-folder-tp4665299p4665308.html Sent from the Gnome Evolution - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 11:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:15:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > I'm getting dislike Arch. You surely do not have 3.24.2, that had > > not been released yet. > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53840 Hi, thanks for filling it upstream, Ralf, I appreciate it. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:15:39 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: >I'm getting dislike Arch. You surely do not have 3.24.2, that had not >been released yet. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53840 Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 08:55 +0200, Bjørn T Johansen wrote: > After upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2 on my Arch distro yesterday, Hi, I'm getting dislike Arch. You surely do not have 3.24.2, that had not been released yet. The way the Arch maintainer does his/her duty leads only to confusion for users and nothing else. It's a very wrong approach, from my point of view. The packager should use -DVERSION_SUBSTRING="+gitXX", eventually -DVERSION_COMMENT="+gitXX", (though none of this is shown in Help->About (I'm changing it for the next release), only in `evolution --version`) during the build (pass to cmake command) and skip the commit where the version is bumped just after the previous release, then everything will make sense and not be confusing. I know it's not your fault, I'm just saying this here publicly (even this is not the right mailing list to deal with this issue, I'm sorry). > - Error everytime I open Evolution, "Failed to connect.." to > different folders and contac lists (using EWS) Does it say also why it failed to connect there? Do you configure the account in evolution, or in GNOME Online Accounts? What if you remove that EWS account (not only disable) and then recreate it from scratch, will it help? > - I have an IMAP account (Dovecot)... Maybe you face (with both IMAP issues) something similar to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1440068 It's still under investigation. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Many strange errors after upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2?
After upgrading to Evolution 3.24.2 on my Arch distro yesterday, there are some strangeness occuring: - Error everytime I open Evolution, "Failed to connect.." to different folders and contac lists (using EWS) - I have an IMAP account (Dovecot), where sometimes when I now recieve a new email, I get a notification for the new email but the new email is missing in action. When I go the folder where this new email arrived, I get the notification again (everytime I enter that folder actually) but no email. When I close Evolution and open it again, then the email appear.. - The same account, I can choose "Mark all messages as read" on a folder and nothing seems to happen. But next time I look, then suddenly all messages have been marked a read... Not sure if this is the new version of Evolution or if it's an Arch issue but perhaps there is a way to find out? Regards, BTJ -- --- Bjørn T Johansen b...@havleik.no --- Someone wrote: "I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange Satanic messages" To which someone replied: "It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows" --- ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to refresh folder
On Tue, 2017-04-25 at 13:00 -0700, Finns1000 wrote: > The reported error was "Error fetching message info: missing closing > ')' on fetch response" Hi, it means that the server returned requested information in a way which evolution-data-server's IMAPx didn't expect. The parser is pretty strict in this regard. Newer versions not that much on various places. You can try to run evolution from a terminal like this: $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution which will log raw communication between the server and the client, for all your enabled IMAP accounts (ideally have enabled only the one for the citadel server) and then reproduce the issue. It should be visible on the console what the server returned and from it what IMAPx code didn't like on it. As I said, it's an error in expected data returned from the server. It can be that Thunderbird uses different command, but it's hard to tell from the currently known information. Also, yours 3.18.5 is pretty old. I recall similar errors being fixed in the current stable, 3.24.x, but again, hard to tell whether they were the same issues as you face. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list