Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 10:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 09:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > If you turn on POP debugging output then you'll be able to see > > exactly > > what the chatter is between Evo and the server. > > Hi, > > so Doug needs to close Evolution, open a terminal and e.g. run > > cd /tmp/ > > and after that > > CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile > > IIUC https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging#POP3 ?! > > There at least is a very long log file when I tested it ;). > > [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cd /tmp/ > [rocketmouse@archlinux tmp]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile > [rocketmouse@archlinux tmp]$ cat logfile > [snip] > > Perhaps Doug should use https://pastebin.com/ or something similar > and > post a link to the log file, if he needs help with the log. > > Regards, > Ralf > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Thanks Ralf. The logfile is at https://pastebin.com/JEgpZMdt I am suspicious about the group of 20 lines commencing with POP3_STREAM_LINE (25): '1 GmailId136c502f1e55e3a8', because the number of lines involved matches the number at which the count-down stops. Can you shed any more light upon it?. Kind regards, Doug___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 09:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 09:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > However, in this case downloading mails is faster, because > > the check, if mails were already downloaded is faster and the > > number of > > mails on the server is equal to the number that will be downloaded, > > so > > you would get of your "issue". > >^rid > Wow! So many helpful replies when I logged on this morning. Thanks to Patrick O'Callaghan, Pete Biggs, Ralf Mardorf and Angel. Firstly, I apologise for top posting earlier - I forgot the convention. I will run Evo in debug mode as suggested and see if I can identify where the count is being set. Thanks for confirming there is nowhere the counter is being stored, as it means I don't have to keep looking for it. I will take note of all the advice and let you know if I solve the problem. Kind regards, Doug Hutcheson___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On 2017-07-19 at 09:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Now the download was slower and I could see the numbers, here it indeed > seems to show the amount of mails that will get downloaded and not the > amount of mails that are still on the server. IIRC for Claws it does > show the amount of mails on the server. However, on my machine Evolution > seems to show what you expect to see and I delete mails after one day > from the server, I do not delete them immediately. Note that gmail does some funny things with its POP implementation. If you keep emails on server, they are listed there... for some time. So even if you have 1000 messages, it maybe shows about 20 there. Probably it is showing the emails read for first time less than a few days ago. Cheers ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:57 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:51 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > The error didn't show up for hours even I did quite a lot of > > modifications, additions and deletions just to evolution busy. > > Hi, > it can also be something on the server, which got fixed meanwhile. > Hard > to tell. Just keep watching it and update the thread if it strikes > again. > Thanks and bye, > Milan > Okay, I'll do so... Thanks > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 16:51 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > The error didn't show up for hours even I did quite a lot of > modifications, additions and deletions just to evolution busy. Hi, it can also be something on the server, which got fixed meanwhile. Hard to tell. Just keep watching it and update the thread if it strikes again. Thanks and bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 15:09 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 14:48 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > It seems I didn't communicate that I not using a EWS address book. > > My contacts are on Google... > > Oops, I'm so It's obvious from the error message, but I didn't > pay > enough attention with my second mail (I did with the first, though). > I'm sorry. In that case, to run the address book factory with > libgdata > debugging, do this: > > b) in a terminal: >$ export G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all >$ export LIBGDATA_DEBUG=255 >$ /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory -w &>log.txt > > The a) and c) steps are the same as earlier. > > Bye, > Milan Hi Milan, The error didn't show up for hours even I did quite a lot of modifications, additions and deletions just to evolution busy. I'll try again when the error show up next... Thanks for help > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
Hi, On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 14:48 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > It seems I didn't communicate that I not using a EWS address book. > My contacts are on Google... Oops, I'm so It's obvious from the error message, but I didn't pay enough attention with my second mail (I did with the first, though). I'm sorry. In that case, to run the address book factory with libgdata debugging, do this: b) in a terminal: $ export G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all $ export LIBGDATA_DEBUG=255 $ /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory -w &>log.txt The a) and c) steps are the same as earlier. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 13:35 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 13:07 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > I had no error the whole day up to now. > > The log file is empty. > > Hi, > it should not be, as long as you opened an EWS address book in > evolution. The logging prints raw communication, thus if you'll > connect > it'll be populated with some debugging information. > Bye, > Milan > Hi Milan, It seems I didn't communicate that I not using a EWS address book. My contacts are on Google... Bye > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 13:07 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > I had no error the whole day up to now. > The log file is empty. Hi, it should not be, as long as you opened an EWS address book in evolution. The logging prints raw communication, thus if you'll connect it'll be populated with some debugging information. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 10:33 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-18 at 23:36 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > > I can't repeat the problem easily... > > Hi, > okay, that's a pita. Could you keep running evolution-addressbook- > factory with EWS debugging on in the background, and when it'll > strike > back, then check the log for the backendError message and what > preceded > it, please? That would show what evolution-ews passed to the server > and > eventually shed a bit of light on the issues. > > To do that: > a) close evolution > b) open terminal and run in it: >$ EWS_DEBUG=2 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory -w > &>log.txt >Actual path can differ on your system. > c) run evolution and use it as before > > The log contains all the communication between the server and the > client, exposing all the private information down to your contacts, > but > the only interesting part is the one with the backendError and what > precedes it. Maybe file a bug report in GNOME bugzilla and we can > follow there. Feel free to send the relevant part of the log only to > me, but reference that bug report, otherwise I'd overlook it in my > spam > folder. Definitely keep the log for later use, in case I'd need more > information from it. Also note that the file as such will be fully > populated only after the factory is properly closed, due to caching, > which it might to roughly 10 seconds after you close evolution (and > all > other clients connected to it, if any). > Bye, > Milan > Hi Milan, I did as you described above. I had no error the whole day up to now. The log file is empty. Thanks > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 15:32 +1000, Doug Hutcheson wrote: > I use gmail as my mail server and access it using POP (inward) and IMAP > (outward). [Please don't top-post] There is no such thing as IMAP "outward". Mail is sent using SMTP. You can "post" a message to an IMAP server folder but I suspect that isn't what you mean. The messages will just sit there, they won't be sent anywhere, though of course some servers (not including Gmail) allow IMAP folders to be shared. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail Help Request: unified inbox, spell check and icloud
> > "icloud" = email? Where to find Apple's docs? What does "no avail" mean The phrase is "to no avail" and is an English idiom that essentially means "unsuccessful" or "to no effect". P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail Help Request: unified inbox, spell check and icloud
Hi and welcome! On Mon, 2017-07-17 at 09:28 +, Sumner Magruder wrote: > I am new to the evolution mail application, and so far I think I like > it. There are a few things that I need help with (that I have tried > troubleshooting on my own as well as consulting various forums). > In no particular order my issues are: > > No unified inbox: while I have multiple accounts on Evolution, they do > not all appear under the main inbox - which would be prefered. POP accounts end up in the same main inbox so I assume you refer to IMAP / other remote account types. You could set up a search folder: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-search-folders.html > While spell check works fine, there appears to be no hot key to make > changes for suggestions (e.g. if I spell autheticate - which only > sometimes appears red - if I right click there is no suggestion for > authenticate) F7 only offers to go through all unrecognized words in the entire mail. https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-spellcheck.html Feature requests could be reported in the task tracker under https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution > I am trying to get my icloud account online. I have looked under apples > documentation and have tried a lot of trouble shooting to no avail. Has > anyone had any success on activating an icloud account and please let > me know what settings they are using. "icloud" = email? Where to find Apple's docs? What does "no avail" mean and what happens exactly? Are there error messages? Which ones? > Also what is the hot key for send (control-D on Mac) See "Help > Quick Reference" for some shortcuts. The main menu should also display keyboard shortcuts right next to an item. In this case: "Ctrl+Return". Cheers, andre PS: For future reference, mentioning your Evolution version is welcome. -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution Mail Help Request: unified inbox, spell check and icloud
Hello, I am new to the evolution mail application, and so far I think I like it. There are a few things that I need help with (that I have tried troubleshooting on my own as well as consulting various forums). In no particular order my issues are: No unified inbox: while I have multiple accounts on Evolution, they do not all appear under the main inbox - which would be prefered. While spell check works fine, there appears to be no hot key to make changes for suggestions (e.g. if I spell autheticate - which only sometimes appears red - if I right click there is no suggestion for authenticate) I am trying to get my icloud account online. I have looked under apples documentation and have tried a lot of trouble shooting to no avail. Has anyone had any success on activating an icloud account and please let me know what settings they are using. Thanks! Also what is the hot key for send (control-D on Mac) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 09:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > If you turn on POP debugging output then you'll be able to see exactly > what the chatter is between Evo and the server. Hi, so Doug needs to close Evolution, open a terminal and e.g. run cd /tmp/ and after that CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile IIUC https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging#POP3 ?! There at least is a very long log file when I tested it ;). [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cd /tmp/ [rocketmouse@archlinux tmp]$ CAMEL_DEBUG=pop3 evolution >& logfile [rocketmouse@archlinux tmp]$ cat logfile [snip] Perhaps Doug should use https://pastebin.com/ or something similar and post a link to the log file, if he needs help with the log. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts - Unable to perform a Search
On Tue, 2017-07-18 at 23:36 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote: > I can't repeat the problem easily... Hi, okay, that's a pita. Could you keep running evolution-addressbook- factory with EWS debugging on in the background, and when it'll strike back, then check the log for the backendError message and what preceded it, please? That would show what evolution-ews passed to the server and eventually shed a bit of light on the issues. To do that: a) close evolution b) open terminal and run in it: $ EWS_DEBUG=2 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory -w &>log.txt Actual path can differ on your system. c) run evolution and use it as before The log contains all the communication between the server and the client, exposing all the private information down to your contacts, but the only interesting part is the one with the backendError and what precedes it. Maybe file a bug report in GNOME bugzilla and we can follow there. Feel free to send the relevant part of the log only to me, but reference that bug report, otherwise I'd overlook it in my spam folder. Definitely keep the log for later use, in case I'd need more information from it. Also note that the file as such will be fully populated only after the factory is properly closed, due to caching, which it might to roughly 10 seconds after you close evolution (and all other clients connected to it, if any). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
> I use gmail as my mail server and access it using POP (inward) and > IMAP (outward). As at this moment, I have 146 messages on the server, > as I have not cleaned it up for a few days, but the countdown always > stops at 19 or 20 (it's hard to tell because it clears so quickly at > the end). It must be something that is remembered either on the > server or locally, but I can't see how it could be the server because > of the number of messages discussed above. > If you turn on POP debugging output then you'll be able to see exactly what the chatter is between Evo and the server. That will hopefully give you more detailed information on what the message counts really are - for instance if the server says there's 30 messages to download but the status bar says 40, then it's an Evo issue; if the servers says there's 30, but stops after 10 then it's a server problem. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
Now the download was slower and I could see the numbers, here it indeed seems to show the amount of mails that will get downloaded and not the amount of mails that are still on the server. IIRC for Claws it does show the amount of mails on the server. However, on my machine Evolution seems to show what you expect to see and I delete mails after one day from the server, I do not delete them immediately. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 09:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > However, in this case downloading mails is faster, because > the check, if mails were already downloaded is faster and the number of > mails on the server is equal to the number that will be downloaded, so > you would get of your "issue". ^rid ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong
On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 15:32 +1000, Doug Hutcheson wrote: > I use gmail as my mail server and access it using POP (inward) and > IMAP (outward). Hi, if you are using POP to receive messages, I suspect you are using SMPT to send messages. Btw. taking a brief look, I don't see any option to see any mail number in the status bar. I only see numbers in a pop up dialog box, but it's to fast to say what actually is displayed. > As at this moment, I have 146 messages on the server, as I have not > cleaned it up for a few days, but the countdown always stops at 19 or > 20 (it's hard to tell because it clears so quickly at the end). Yes, there could be 146 mails on the server and you probably already downloaded 126, so there are only 20 mails to download. You expect that the first number shows the amount of mails that will get downloaded and the other displays the countdown, but actually the first number might show the mails on the server, as e.g. Claws does. Doing a very short research I couldn't find any information that there are two number, one showing the amount of mails that need to get downloaded and another showing a countdown. Maybe one number just shows how many mails are still on the server, IOW the amount of mails that were already downloaded + the mails that were not downloaded. > It must be something that is remembered either on the server or > locally, but I can't see how it could be the server because of the > number of messages discussed above. Sure the MUA, in this case Evolution, remembers what mails already were downloaded, to avoid to download them as duplicates. You could automatically delete mails from the server by Edit > Preferences > Mail accounts > select an account and double-click > Receiving options > Uncheck "Leave messages on server" but then they are deleted on the server and no other MUA could download them, too. However, in this case downloading mails is faster, because the check, if mails were already downloaded is faster and the number of mails on the server is equal to the number that will be downloaded, so you would get of your "issue". Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
