Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 22:40 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > > it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a
> > > text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail
> > > in Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens
> > > Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click?
> > 
> > Not from within Evolution.
> > 
> > > If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for
> > > suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting
> > > involved.
> > 
> > Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You
> > would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a
> > message could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it
> > possibly being moved around. There is no universal way to do this.
> 
> I suppose the “universal” way to link to messages is using a mid: URL
> that refers to the Message-ID in a message's header.
> See: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392

The Message-ID is mainly useful in debugging because it can be used to
trace the flow of a message across mail servers. Although the
definition describes it as a universal message *locator*, it's really
more like a URI than a URL. To make it work as a link there would need
to be a standard way to follow it to the message itself, which would
ideally work on IMAP, POP, Exchange etc., but that doesn't exist at
present.

> Evolution currently doesn't support this, but I guess it would be
> possible to add it if someone is motivated enough…
> 
> Soem thoughts:
>  * I'm not sure if Evolution keeps an index of Message-IDs; if not it
>could take a rather long time to find the right message in a large
>mailbox (or multiple large ones).
>  * Maybe some IMAP servers index & allow searching for it?

Again, this (if it even exists) would be mailstore-specific, not a
universal solution.

Within these limitations it could possibly be used for what the OP
wants. However I think the limitations are such as to make it probably
not worth investing a lot of time on. But feel free to try :-)

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Weird error message

2018-12-23 Thread Paul W Parker via evolution-list
On Fri, 2018-12-21 at 18:54 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-12-21 at 18:30 +0100, Tibor Attila Anca wrote:
> > I have been away for a while from the list, so I do not know,
> > whether
> > the problem has already been discussed.
> > 
> > I use Evolution 3.30.3 on Fedora 29. Each time I send a mail I get
> > an
> > error message displayed above the filter line, something like:
> > Error
> > by
> > executing the process (original is German). Message with ID 
> > could
> > not be retrieved. Message not available.
> > 
> >  is the ID of the sent message which is present in my sent
> > folder.
> > 
> > Where is this error message coming from?
> 
> From a software misbehavior that someone should report in the issue
> tracker. :) I think I experience the same issue.
> 

Similar/same found copy was NOT being saved by Yahoo.com.au  

To ensure Yahoo.com.au  keeps copy used SENT emails settings for 
Composing Messages, include a Blind-Copy back to my email address. 



Incoming eMail:  imap.mail.yahoo.com   Port 993   
Description: For reading and storing mail on IMAP servers. 

Sending eMail:  smtp.mail.yahoo.comPort 465 
Description:  For delivering mail by connecting to a remote mailhub
using SMTP 



Paul W Parker
.


> andre
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Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Jan Claeys
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a
> > text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail
> > in Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens
> > Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click?
> 
> Not from within Evolution.
> 
> > If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for
> > suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting
> > involved.
> 
> Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You
> would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a
> message could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it
> possibly being moved around. There is no universal way to do this.

I suppose the “universal” way to link to messages is using a mid: URL
that refers to the Message-ID in a message's header.
See: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392

Evolution currently doesn't support this, but I guess it would be
possible to add it if someone is motivated enough…

Soem thoughts:
 * I'm not sure if Evolution keeps an index of Message-IDs; if not it
   could take a rather long time to find the right message in a large
   mailbox (or multiple large ones).
 * Maybe some IMAP servers index & allow searching for it?


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Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Paul W Parker via evolution-list
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a
> > text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail
> > in
> > Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens
> > Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click?
> 
> Not from within Evolution.
> 

As not doing this frequently, found using PRINT to PDF works ok,  with
the PDF able to be linked.  




> > If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for
> > suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting
> > involved.
> 
> Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You
> would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a
> message
> could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it possibly
> being moved around. There is no universal way to do this.
> 
> There could conceivably be an Evo-specific way, using Evo's on-disc
> cache, but a) as it's a cache it can easily disappear or be
> reorganised, and b) the link would only work on a single machine (and
> then only within the same user account on the machine).
> 
> poc
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Bjoern Schiessle
Hi, 

thanks for the feedback.

On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You
> would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a
> message
> could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it possibly
> being moved around. There is no universal way to do this.
> 
> There could conceivably be an Evo-specific way, using Evo's on-disc
> cache, but a) as it's a cache it can easily disappear or be
> reorganised, and b) the link would only work on a single machine (and
> then only within the same user account on the machine).

One idea I had was to copy the Message-ID and have a way to open
Evolution sp that it does directly search for the Message-ID. Ideally I
should be able to automate this a bit and don't have to search the mail
header for the Message-ID manually, etc.

I saw similar scripts for Mutt with ToDo.txt and Gnus with Emacs org-
mode, if I remember correctly.

In my setup, all mails are stored locally in a Maildir, synced with
mbsync.

Cheers,
Björn

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Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 17:50 +0100, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a
> text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail in
> Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens
> Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click?

Not from within Evolution.

> If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for
> suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting
> involved.

Off the top of my head, I think this would be pretty hard to do. You
would have to accommodate all the different storage locations a message
could be in, both local and remote, and take account of it possibly
being moved around. There is no universal way to do this.

There could conceivably be an Evo-specific way, using Evo's on-disc
cache, but a) as it's a cache it can easily disappear or be
reorganised, and b) the link would only work on a single machine (and
then only within the same user account on the machine).

poc

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[Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution

2018-12-23 Thread Bjoern Schiessle
Hi all,

it happens regularly that I want to refer to a email in my notes, a
text document, etc. Is there a way to generate a "link" to a mail in
Evolution which I could copy over to my notes, which again opens
Evolution and jumps directly to the mail on click?

If this doesn't exists out of the box, I would be also happy for
suggestions how I might be able to solve this with some scripting
involved.

Thanks a lot!
Björn

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