Re: [Evolution] EWS Office365 Proxied Auth

2019-09-19 Thread Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 08:03 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 05:49 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Was this ever resolved for you Randall?
> 
>   Hi,
> I'm not sure, but maybe this had been covered by
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.gnome.org%2FGNOME%2Fevolution-ews%2Fissues%2F42&data=02%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C1a37ce83f6e34d8ca7d708d73d90eded%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637045564990768091&sdata=8IuG1SUb5tDknnauEbNpkxKtZKlncqjgM2mvaEKe6Jk%3D&reserved=0
> and
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.gnome.org%2FGNOME%2Fevolution-ews%2Fissues%2F53&data=02%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C1a37ce83f6e34d8ca7d708d73d90eded%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637045564990768091&sdata=1dyL5Ey7LHawepDb7K7ZoUWkWj7d3iXgWeplR2Yqz8A%3D&reserved=0
> 
> > In my case I had to use the email address as the UID.
> 
> Do you mean you changed it from the user name only to the email in the
> Receiving Options? It can be changed in the settings, to prefill full
> email, instead of user-name-part-of-the-email there, depending which
> will work better/mostly.

Yes and no. The info I got from our Exchange mail admins was to try with
username only, usern...@domain.se or the email address.

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Re: [Evolution] EWS Office365 Proxied Auth

2019-09-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 05:49 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Was this ever resolved for you Randall?

Hi,
I'm not sure, but maybe this had been covered by
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/issues/42
and
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/issues/53

> In my case I had to use the email address as the UID.

Do you mean you changed it from the user name only to the email in the
Receiving Options? It can be changed in the settings, to prefill full
email, instead of user-name-part-of-the-email there, depending which
will work better/mostly.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] EWS Office365 Proxied Auth

2019-09-19 Thread Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 12:45 -0400, Randall Smith wrote:
> My employer recently switch their Exchange email from internal to
> Office365.  I'm able to configure it using Nine on Android and Hiri on
> Ubuntu, but have been unsuccessful with Evolution.  As Evolution is my
> favorite mail client, I really would like to get this working.  With
> the other mail clients, there is an auto-detect and redirect for
> authentication to a webpage with my employe's logo.  I suspect the
> authentication is proxied to use the internal Microsoft Domain Auth,
> but that's just a guess.  I've followed several tutorials along the
> lines of this one:
> 
> https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=28462
> 
> Any help is appreciated.  I'd really prefer to use Evolution.  The
> Outlook web interface is terrible and Hiri is too bare bones.
> 
> -Randall
> 

Hello list and Randall!

Was this ever resolved for you Randall?

Our uni did the same change as yours did, a while ago.
Had to experiment a bit with which UID-credentials to use, as well as what
URL to connect to.

In my case I had to use the email address as the UID.
The host URL was https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx. 
After clicking Fetch URL the correct OAB URL showed up and the mail started
pouring in. It was a moment of extasy. :-)

Until arriving on the above URL, I experimented with portal.office.com and a
slew of other variations until I landed on the correct one.

HTH.



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Re: [Evolution] flatpak evolution 3.32.5 hanging on attachment upload

2019-09-19 Thread Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 12:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 18:45 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > > > the version had been updated to3.34.0, which you can get if you
> > > > re-download the jsonscript/flatpak manifest from the
> > > > repository.
> > 
> > Deleted everything and rebuilt ... but it still just
> > built3.32.5(flatpak git2ee5104)
> 
>   Hi,I guess you missed the important part of my message (quoted
> above),which is "re-download the json script/manifest from the
> repository".That is, to run:
>$ wget 
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/raw/master/flatpak/org.gnome.Evolution-stable.json

No, I actually grabbed the correct json file.  My problem was I had a
build failure whichleft crap in ~/flatpak/.flatpak-builder, which
prevented a clean rebuild.
> I just verified it does reference version 3.34 and gnome-3-34
> branchesand GNOME runtime 3.32 (thus you'll need to install Platform
> and SDKtoo, because you might have installed version 3.30 of those).

Yep.. got those versions and build now reports   3.34.1 (flatpak
git67ae6e5) 
> > After a restart, I tried another email and this message appeared in
> > the console window:
> > (evolution.bin:58): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:31:49.315:
> > gtk_window_present_with_time() ...
> 
> That's only an informative warning from gtk+. I do not like
> these,because users cannot do anything with them.
> Once you build the new version, run it with:
>$ CAMEL_DEBUG=smtp flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
Currently running that way .. will see if if fails.
Mike
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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 17:17 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> I am running out the door, so will submit my request on gitlab when I
> return after the weekend and that is all. 

Hi,
maybe if you can reply to my questions, before you open a bug, it'll be
appreciated. It may save time to you.

> So I am considered a troll, whatever that is? I will not reply to the
> list again.

I only expressed my opinion and feeling. I also said I can be wrong.

By the way, is the reason you keep typing at the top here, despite
being kindly asked to not do that, that your Thunderbird/68.1.0 doesn't
support moving cursor below quoted text, or because it doesn't have
option to start typing at bottom, or...

Also, I just updated the wiki page [1] and changed "Bugs can be
filled..." to "Bugs and feature requests can be filled...". You are
right, it could be confusing.
Thanks and bye,
Milan

P.S.: Private mails do not help others, not talking that private mails
can be lost on the recipient side, like in a spam folder, then if
people write important things in private for something and expect
response, they might not get a reply, because the recipient doesn't
even know that anything had been send to him/her. I mean, even there
are legitimate reasons to move from a public place to private mails
(like sensitive data exchange), if a discussion started in public it
should stay in public.

[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution

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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 15:52 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> Please change the Compose section of Settings to not use the words
> "start typing" because this is interpreted to mean "you are not
> supposed to start typing". See quote below.

Hi,
could you suggest what the new wording for the option

  [ ] Start typing at the bottom

would be, from your point of view, please? I do not recall seeing
anybody complaining about that option but you for the past decade.
That's a long time. You might be the first one, and as you've the best
idea why it's wrong, maybe you've also a good idea what would be
better.

Though, honestly, if the option is not set, which is the default as you
claimed several times, does it really mean that the application forces
you to *start typing* at the top? I do not think so, neither many (or
most) other users.

Would change the name to "Place cursor at the bottom" any better? I
doubt it.

I can be wrong.
Bye,
Milan

P.S.: the way you exhibit here feels like you are just trolling, not
listening to others for things you've been kindly asked to do several
times. That doesn't help to anybody, it only shows that you are not
listening... My personal opinion.

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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Gary
But is a change request a bug? ;-)

Thanks for clarifying that. I will post the link here when I have
submitted it.

On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 16:25 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> A bug is a change request.

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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Please do not top-post here.

On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 16:21 +0200, Gary wrote:
> Yes that is the same page I referred to, which as far as I know is the
> official GNOME Evolution page. I guess there might be others, so
> therefore the confusion. Sorry about that.
>
> I still cannot find where it provides information on how to go about
> submitting a change request. I can see where to submit a bug, but not a
> change request.

A bug is a change request.

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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Gary
Yes that is the same page I referred to, which as far as I know is the
official GNOME Evolution page. I guess there might be others, so
therefore the confusion. Sorry about that.

I still cannot find where it provides information on how to go about
submitting a change request. I can see where to submit a bug, but not a
change request.

On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 16:03 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 15:52 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> > It is not clear on the GNOME Evolution web page where to submit
> > requests for changes to the application. Maybe someone can add this
> > for me.
>
> Please provide a link which "GNOME Evolution web page" you refer to.
>
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution provides such information.
> You can also find "How to report bugs" under "Help 🡒 Contents" i
> n Evolution itself.
>
> > Request to change the Evolution settings window.
>
> In general you can propose software changes in
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new
> See
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/Guidelines
> for info to provide (version, steps to reproduce).
>
> For the records,
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-reply.html
> deliberately does not provide an Etiquette on reply styles as
> preferred
> styles depend on environments (corporate; mailing list; etc).
>
> Thanks,
> andre
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Re: [Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 15:52 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote:
> It is not clear on the GNOME Evolution web page where to submit
> requests for changes to the application. Maybe someone can add this
> for me.

Please provide a link which "GNOME Evolution web page" you refer to.

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution provides such information.
You can also find "How to report bugs" under "Help 🡒 Contents" i
n Evolution itself.

> Request to change the Evolution settings window.

In general you can propose software changes in
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new
See https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/Guidelines
for info to provide (version, steps to reproduce).

For the records,
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-reply.html
deliberately does not provide an Etiquette on reply styles as preferred
styles depend on environments (corporate; mailing list; etc).

Thanks,
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[Evolution] change request

2019-09-19 Thread Gary Curtin
It is not clear on the GNOME Evolution web page where to submit requests
for changes to the application. Maybe someone can add this for me.

Request to change the Evolution settings window.

Please change the Compose section of Settings to not use the words
"start typing" because this is interpreted to mean "you are not supposed
to start typing". See quote below.

On 19/09/2019 15:25, Andre Klapper wrote:
> No, and that's been explained several times now: You are not supposed
> to start typing but to think and use your keyboard to remove unneeded
> quotes first, and then type after having gone through the quote.
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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work UPDATE and Thanks

2019-09-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 13:11 +0200, Gary wrote:
> Fine - there is a difference between the way Evolution works in it's
> default configuration, and what you consider the correct way to reply
> on this mailing list.

No, and that's been explained several times now: You are not supposed
to start typing but to think and use your keyboard to remove unneeded
quotes first, and then type after having gone through the quote.

> The default settings, and current practices, should however be taken
> into consideration before you object to people not doing what you
> "prefer".
>
> That is all.

Gary, what's the gain behind ignoring repeated wishes by several folks
to please respect the common practice not to top-post on this list?

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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work UPDATE and Thanks

2019-09-19 Thread Gary
Fine - there is a difference between the way Evolution works in it's
default configuration, and what you consider the correct way to reply
on this mailing list.

The default settings, and current practices, should however be taken
into consideration before you object to people not doing what you
"prefer".

That is all.

On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 10:38 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> You persist in misinterpreting what we're saying:
>
>  * This is a *mailing list*.
>  * The norms and practices of a mailing list are not the same as
> those
>used in other circumstances.
>  * On this mailing list, as on many others, we prefer that people do
>not use top-posting because it makes long threads (including this
>one) significantly harder to follow.
>
> That's all.
>
> poc

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Re: [Evolution] flatpak evolution 3.32.5 hanging on attachment upload

2019-09-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 18:45 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> > > the version had been updated to
> > > 3.34.0, which you can get if you re-download the json
> > > script/flatpak manifest from the repository.
> 
> Deleted everything and rebuilt ... but it still just built3.32.5
> (flatpak git2ee5104)

Hi,
I guess you missed the important part of my message (quoted above),
which is "re-download the json script/manifest from the repository".
That is, to run:

   $ wget 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/raw/master/flatpak/org.gnome.Evolution-stable.json

I just verified it does reference version 3.34 and gnome-3-34 branches
and GNOME runtime 3.32 (thus you'll need to install Platform and SDK
too, because you might have installed version 3.30 of those).

> After a restart, I tried another email and this message appeared in the 
> console window:
> 
> (evolution.bin:58): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:31:49.315: 
> gtk_window_present_with_time() ...

That's only an informative warning from gtk+. I do not like these,
because users cannot do anything with them.

Once you build the new version, run it with:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=smtp flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

which should show SMTP debugging, if it gets that far when it fails for
you.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Buckup & Restore command dont work UPDATE and Thanks

2019-09-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-09-19 at 06:30 +0200, Gary wrote:
> Right, and this practice of top-posting has also been copied by
> Evolution as it's default setting because over time things change. That
> is evolution even if you disagree with the influences or the direction
> in which it evolves.
> 
> But ultimately the point of a default setting is that it is the
> preferred method, otherwise why would it be default? Now you are asking
> us not to use the default settings when using Evolution to discuss
> Evolution.

You persist in misinterpreting what we're saying:

 * This is a *mailing list*.
 * The norms and practices of a mailing list are not the same as those
   used in other circumstances.
 * On this mailing list, as on many others, we prefer that people do
   not use top-posting because it makes long threads (including this
   one) significantly harder to follow.

That's all.

poc

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