[Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
I am using MINT 19.3 CINNAMON V 4.4.8 LINUX KERNEL 5.4.0-80-GENERIC THE EVOLUTION IS 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 I have been using evolution for the last 15 years or so. So, I define myself as an expert user, a bit like Gandalf the Grey is an expert wizard. IMHO Evolution is pretty good on the whole. But, there are a few annoying problems. For example, the html WYSIWYG editor sucks heavily. I realize nobody every wrote a satisfactory html WYSIWYG writer. So, all I'm asking for is an html editor. Then, I can manually edit the f***ked up HTML written by evolution every now and again, and then send out the message i have manually written the html for. Can you implement this new feature please, before I go mad ? Believe me, I really am like Gandalf the Wizard as far as being a linux user is concerned. You really need to listen to me and do what I say, before Sauron (AKA B. Gates) takes over. Thanks. Stiv aka Gandalf___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
Hi, On Mon, 2021-08-09 at 19:38 +0200, sdis...@tin.it wrote: > I am using MINT 19.3 CINNAMON V 4.4.8 LINUX KERNEL 5.4.0-80-GENERIC > > > THE EVOLUTION IS 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 > For > example, the html WYSIWYG editor sucks heavily. AAARRRGG you should REEEALLY upgrade and not run utterly ancient software versions from 2018. Newer versions include newer bug fixes. And as a courtesy to others, please avoid writing caps lock only. Thanks, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
Dear Andre, So, as a highly experienced user of a standard, mainstream version of linux, using the standard version of evolution which the apt- get system installed for me, my problems are all my own fault, and my requests for a new feature are worthless. Why on earth would I expect a piece of linux software to work out of the box without spending weeks playing with the settings ? How stupid of me. This seems a (sadly) familiar concept. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to go on suffering the countless html coding errors this standard version of evolution has suffered from since I started using it 15 years ago. BTW here is what the world "development" as in "software development" means:- https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/development "the process in which someone or something grows or changes and becomes more advanced:" Now, I will also unsubscribe myself again from this pointless mailing list. On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 10:33 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2021-08-09 at 19:38 +0200, sdis...@tin.it wrote: > > I am using MINT 19.3 CINNAMON V 4.4.8 LINUX KERNEL 5.4.0-80-GENERIC > > > THE EVOLUTION IS 3.28.5-0ubuntu0. 18.04.2 > For > example, the html WYSIWYG editor sucks heavily. > > AAARRRGG you should REEEALLY upgrade and not run utterly ancient > software versions from 2018. Newer versions include newer bug fixes. > And as a courtesy to others, please avoid writing caps lock only. > > Thanks, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/> > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
On Mon, 2021-08-09 at 19:38 +0200, sdis...@tin.it wrote: > I am using MINT 19.3 CINNAMON V 4.4.8 LINUX KERNEL 5.4.0-80-GENERIC > > > THE EVOLUTION IS 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 ANCIENT ANCIENT VERSION. > > I have been using evolution > for the last 15 years or so. > > > So, all I'm asking for is an > html editor. So you've been using Evolution for 15 years, been getting peeved with the built-in editor all that time, and never explored the External Editor plugin? > Then, I can manually edit the f***ked up HTML written by > evolution every now and again, and then send out the message i have > manually written the html for. > > Can you implement this new feature > please, before I go mad ? > > Believe me, I really am like Gandalf the > Wizard as far as being a linux user is concerned. > You really need to > listen to me and do what I say, before Sauron (AKA B. Gates) takes > over. > One thing I've learned over the years of using many different types of OS's, but mainly *nix, is that the open source community, in general, wants you to use the correct tools for you. If that means using Windows or MacOS or iOS or whatever, then do so. False rivalries and threatening to jump ship to a different app or OS is pointless. If you can find a different mail app or a different platform that suits your needs better, then go for it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
Hi, On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 11:06 +0200, sdis...@tin.it wrote: > So, as a highly experienced user of a standard, mainstream > version of linux, using the standard version of evolution which the apt- > get system installed for me, my problems are all my own fault Nobody ever said so, and I don't know why you'd think so. > and my requests for a new feature are worthless. Nobody ever said so, and I don't know why you'd think so. However, we cannot travel back three years in time to fix your three year old version that you decided to run. That's why I recommended to upgrade. > Why on earth would I expect a > piece of linux software to work out of the box without spending weeks > playing with the settings ? How stupid of me. I have no idea why you'd want to "play with the settings" though, as that would not solve any problem. See my previous reply. > Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to go on suffering > the countless html coding errors this standard version of evolution has > suffered from since I started using it 15 years ago. See my previous reply: If you don't want to stick with ancient buggy software versions, upgrade to recent less buggy software versions. (I have no idea what a "standard version" is, though - if you think that your distro ships a "standard version", you could talk to your distro to update that "standard version" as the packages that you use are provided by your distro and not by us.) You chose to use a conservative LTS version of some distro, so you get the package versions of that conservative LTS distro, basically. The package update policy of your distro is up to your distro, not us. > BTW here is what > the world "development" as in "software development" means:- > > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/development > "the > process in which someone or something grows or changes and becomes more > advanced:" That's what has happened within the last three years of development, however you are running a software version from three years ago. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] AAARRRGGGGGG REEEALLY Need an HTML editor
> > So, as a highly experienced user of a standard, mainstream > version of linux, using the standard version of evolution which the apt- > get system installed for me, my problems are all my own fault, and my > requests for a new feature are worthless. > You are using Mint 19.3. That is a LTS release and comes with some caveats which you ought to be aware of: namely the application software is usually locked at specific versions. Mint/Canonical doesn't develop Gnome or it's components, so the software will continue to be developed leaving old versions behind. Evolution (and Gnome) is now at 3.40, bugs are generally fixed for versions one behind, so 3.38 and 3.40. New features are implemented in the development version 3.41. The evolution developers will not deal with any other versions. In producing a LTS version of their OS, Mint developers (presumably ultimately Canonical) are committed to back porting bug fixes into the version they provide. It is unlikely they will do the same for feature updates, but that is up to Canonical and you need to ask on the Mint support forums. > > Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to go on suffering > the countless html coding errors this standard version of evolution has > suffered from since I started using it 15 years ago. Have you filed bugs about it? What happened to them? > > Now, I will also unsubscribe myself again from this > pointless mailing list. Oh well, I suppose you'll never see this ... P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution spam filters (3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2)
On Mon, 2021-08-09 at 13:30 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft via evolution-list wrote: > Hello all, > > A month ago (after almost a year of spam-free bliss), I had to set > spam > filters set in Evolution (3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2) and am still > receiving spam in my evolution inbox that doesn't have my email > address > anywhere in cc or bcc... These are all no-reply spams, and don't even > have bogus "unsubscribe" buttons.. > > What confounds me most is that, when > I check gmail.com, those spams do not appear (even in the junk/spam > history folder), even before I had set filters in Evolution.. > Why/how are spams that don't seem to cycle through gmail appearing in > evolution, in spite of doing all the recommended things to block/stop > them? > > This began about a month ago with no change in my online behaviour or > my system settings - I have no newsletter subscriptions, no social > media accounts, I don't lend accounts for sharing, etc, and it only > happens to 1 of my 3 gmail accounts (he one i don't use for > communication)... > > I know my version of Evolution is very out-of-date.. I'd need step- > by- > step help on upgrading, else I'd have done it already.. Until then, > how > do I fix this sudden spam problem? As you say, your version of Evo is very out of date. The proper way to update it is using your Linux distro's package manager. Also, you don't say which spam filter you use, but if you're using Gmail's spam detection system then you're probably better just disabling the spam filter in Evolution. That's what I do as in my experience the Gmail one is much more effective. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Stuck on failed search
I'm using Debian 10 "Buster." The version of Evolution that it installs is 3.30.5-1.1. Yesterday, on only one account, and only in the inbox, not the sent box or the archive box, instead of showing the list of messages, it showed "No messages satisfy the search criteria." The search box is empty. I tried putting something into the search box, something I know pertains to one of the messages (which I can read on another computer). The condition persists. I closed and restarted evolution. The condition persists. How can I clear this, short of deleting the account and starting over? Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stuck on failed search
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 10:54 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I'm using Debian 10 "Buster." The version of Evolution that it > installs is 3.30.5-1.1. > > Yesterday, on only one account, and only in the inbox, not the sent > box or the archive box, instead of showing the list of messages, it > showed "No messages satisfy the search criteria." > > The search box is empty. > Check that the "Show:" drop-down next to the search box is set to "All Messages". Help -> Contents -> Common Mail Questions and Problems -> I cannot see some emails, where are they? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..
Evolution: 3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) Linux: Kernel: 5.4.0-80-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia I was helping my father with his Thunderbird setup and stumbled into their attachment option.. it allow a user defined size of attachment to be thrown to a cloud storage service and embeds a link in the out going email. Is there a similar function available for Evolution? And yes, I checked in the plugin manager and didn't see anything resembling what I'm looking for. Thanks. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stuck on failed search
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 21:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 10:54 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I'm using Debian 10 "Buster." The version of Evolution that > > itinstalls is 3.30.5-1.1. > > Yesterday, on only one account, and only in the inbox, not the > > sentbox or the archive box, instead of showing the list of > > messages, itshowed "No messages satisfy the search criteria." > > The search box is empty. > Check that the "Show:" drop-down next to the search box is set to > "AllMessages". Thanks, that did the trick. So that you get pestered with this question less frequently, add a suggestion about the "Show" dropdown to the "No message4s satisfy the search criteria" message. Something like "Check the Show dropdown on the left side of the Search box." > Help -> Contents -> Common Mail Questions and Problems > ->I cannot see some emails, where are > they? > P. > > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 15:42 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > Evolution: 3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) > Linux: Kernel: 5.4.0-80-generic x86_64 bits: 64 > Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 > Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia > > I was helping my father with his Thunderbird setup and stumbled into > their > attachment option.. > it allow a user defined size of attachment to be thrown to a cloud > storage > service and embeds > a link in the out going email. > > Is there a similar function available for Evolution? > > And yes, I checked in the plugin manager and didn't see anything > resembling what > I'm looking for. No, but you might want to file an RFE (Request For Enhancement) on the bug reporting page. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..
Plug-in manager?? On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 15:42 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > Evolution: 3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) > Linux:Kernel: 5.4.0-80-generic x86_64 bits: 64 > Desktop: MATE 1.22.2 > Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia > > I was helping my father with his Thunderbird setup and stumbled into > their attachment option.. > it allow a user defined size of attachment to be thrown to a cloud > storage service and embeds > a link in the out going email. > > Is there a similar function available for Evolution? > > And yes, I checked in the plugin manager and didn't see anything > resembling what I'm looking for. > > Thanks. > > > > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 15:29 -0600, larry wrote: > Plug-in manager?? Edit -> Plug-ins P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..
On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 22:15 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > No, but you might want to file an RFE (Request For Enhancement) on the > bug reporting page. Hi, it's already filled: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/920 Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list