Re: [Evolution] some points for improvement
I disagree completely. There should really be some less On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 08:53 +1000, Daniel Kasak wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 00:35 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: There should really be some more I find it difficult to argue with this last point :) -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer NUS Consulting Group Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Dr. Brian L Scipioni 909 Austin Ave Atlanta, GA 30307 home: 404.525.8911 cell: 404.771.3740 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] LDAP lookups
I've been using Evo with my LDAP for a couple years and I love the functionality - especially since I can get to my contacts from anywhere on the internet using any OS and MUA (that supports LDAP) since I have my LDAP server exposed. But ... it locks/freezes on a fairly regular basis. It seems to happen much more often when I edit a contact. On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 08:26 -0700, Scott DeMeyer wrote: It's not just you. I also have the same problem. It happens about every 3rd time I try to lookup an LDAP contact from our Exchange server. Really quite annoying. I thought it was due to the 100,000+ address on our global but maybe not? I love Evolution since finding out years ago that I could edit my LDAP contacts. I always blamed KDE, when I used SuSE (now Ubuntu w/gnome), for it crashing on me when typing a recipient address with lookups to our LDAP server (I know, laziness). But after waiting now a long time hoping an update would fix and finding my laptop does *not* do this, it is evident, this is a problem I must resolve myself and maybe related to my hardware? I'm not sure how I would have installed a package on my laptop that I don't have on my workstation, that would be good news to fix. Hardware is really the only constant, I've done new installs/upgrades many times :/ How can I start to track down the cause of these crashes? Seems to only have issues with the initial lookup, DNS has checked out fine. After opening Evo, the first time I start typing in a lookup field of the message, it will lockup. The laptop will hesitate sometimes, but not stop responding, I figure that is normal for the first lookup. I'll wait sometimes eventually for it to start responding, but the lookup doesn't work until I kill all Evo processes and start again. After the kill, I can try two or three new messages, the first or second will not lookup, but also not lockup, to finally get it to start looking up. Once it is successfully, it will work flawlessly until Evo is restarted. I am running Evolution 2.10.1 on Ubuntu Fiesty. I was just hoping someone has had this experience in the past and knew a possible fix. -- Robert ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Dr. Brian L Scipioni 909 Austin Ave Atlanta, GA 30307 home: 404.525.8911 cell: 404.771.3740 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been happening to me recently. I'll be typing away in a new message and all of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes. Then after a long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out. While in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint. If I drag it around a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will crash. I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252, but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600. They have identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3 and the same other packages loaded. The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client. That makes sense, because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are associated with I/O. -- Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line. At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made no difference. Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the box is using a lot of I/O. I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up again and I can continue until the next freeze. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: evolution locking up]
In case anyone's interested here is what I have found: My problem started in the first place due to a few runaway processes on a server (the mail machine also). The saturated CPUs resulted in very slow response and NFS timeouts. The issue is how this is handled by a multi-threaded volution. In this case it created a corrupted downloaded message. I seems to me that when, for whatever reason, Evolution has trouble getting a response, it easily leads to either race conditions or deadlocks. I can't prove it, but the symptoms are there. It has happened to me many times. Usually I get a deadlock and have to kill the process - sometimes remotely. This time I got a race condition while reading/writing my Inbox file. It resulted in a single email repeated with over 3 million lines - a 180 MB message. When I cat-ed out the good parts before and after the corrupted message - I was able to recover all the mail I had lost in the Inbox. (There was nothing wrong with the original message on the email server which I had accessed many times). It took a long time for me to figure out what was wrong, since whenever I brought up Evolution, it crashed immediately while trying to read its folders. My advice for others in this situation - copy all the email files to somewhere else and add them back to .evolution/mail/local one or several at a time until you find the bad one. The developers might want to validate downloaded message formats to prevent this. Also they might want to make thread synchronization more robust to prevent these race/deadlocks. Often, after I add/update a Contact in my LDAP server through Evolution, that thread locks up/dies while the email editor seems to continue on its merry way as if nothing has happened. I have to kill the program to repair my LDAP connection. thanks, - Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to validate/reset the .evolution tree without trashing it? I'd also like to know ... -- Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: evolution locking up]
will do On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 08:04 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think you should file a report (or maybe two) on Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.gnome.org). poc On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 05:22 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote: In case anyone's interested here is what I have found: My problem started in the first place due to a few runaway processes on a server (the mail machine also). The saturated CPUs resulted in very slow response and NFS timeouts. The issue is how this is handled by a multi-threaded volution. In this case it created a corrupted downloaded message. I seems to me that when, for whatever reason, Evolution has trouble getting a response, it easily leads to either race conditions or deadlocks. I can't prove it, but the symptoms are there. It has happened to me many times. Usually I get a deadlock and have to kill the process - sometimes remotely. This time I got a race condition while reading/writing my Inbox file. It resulted in a single email repeated with over 3 million lines - a 180 MB message. When I cat-ed out the good parts before and after the corrupted message - I was able to recover all the mail I had lost in the Inbox. (There was nothing wrong with the original message on the email server which I had accessed many times). It took a long time for me to figure out what was wrong, since whenever I brought up Evolution, it crashed immediately while trying to read its folders. My advice for others in this situation - copy all the email files to somewhere else and add them back to .evolution/mail/local one or several at a time until you find the bad one. The developers might want to validate downloaded message formats to prevent this. Also they might want to make thread synchronization more robust to prevent these race/deadlocks. Often, after I add/update a Contact in my LDAP server through Evolution, that thread locks up/dies while the email editor seems to continue on its merry way as if nothing has happened. I have to kill the program to repair my LDAP connection. thanks, - Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how to validate/reset the .evolution tree without trashing it? I'd also like to know ... -- Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] evolution locking up
All, I have a serious problem with evolution hanging and locking my display and spinning using large amounts of CPU and/or network. It has been happening for a couple of years through several OS versions from redhat 9 through fedora core 6 and on my dual Intel PIII as well as my dual AMD Opteron. At work I run a dual core Intel and have no problems. It has recently become far worse. Googling the problem, shows little if no other of these type problems. At one time I thought it was related to intermittent NFS timeouts but I've ruled that out (although it can be a problem). Right now I cannot even bring Evolution up without it immediately bringing up bug buddy then crashing. It had been taking enormous amounts of time to move from one email to the next. I have not provided much detail, but can anyone tell me of any similar type problems they've heard of and what kind of causes they might have. appreciatively, brian -- Dr. Brian L Scipioni Janus Research Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: 678.560.5252 fax:678.560.5251 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
