[Evolution] how to start over

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Hennebry

I installed and started evolution.
After messing up my first e-mail account,
I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it.
I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution ,
but that did not work either.
Somewhere it found the information to recreate ~/.evolution .
I've got an evolution folder/identity/whatever with
the right name that doesn't work. It's inert.

How do I start over?

I'm trying to connect to a cableone.net account.

I've used evolution before, but it was a long drawn out struggle.
All I really remember is the blood.

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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-28 Thread Michael Hennebry

Alas my Evolution 2.32.3 has no File ▸ Back up Evolution Data.
It does have a File ▸ Back up Evolution Settings,
but if that worked, I can't tell for sure.
I get a pop-up:

The folder contents could not be displayed
Operation not supported

After closing the pop-up,
it lets me browse for a place to put the tar.gz file.
I can't tell if it saved my in-boxes from under On This Computer or not.
I've been looking at the table of contents,
but it hasn't helped.
I don't know what I'm looking for.
Is the naming scheme in the FM somewhere?

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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-28 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012, Andre Klapper wrote:

You could open the archive file and check the file 
.local/share/evolution/mail/local/Inbox


Thanks for the suggestion.
It took me a while to discover that the file I wanted was
.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cpy2.sbd/INBOX .
'Tis there.
Thanks again.

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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Thu, 26 Jan 2012, Patryk Benderz wrote:


[cut]

When I do the backup, I'll be user 500.
When I do the restore, I'll be user 1000.
Is there a problem with that?

It is a tar archive. Can't you just unpack it, change files ownership to
1000.1000 and pack back again?


Until just now, I didn't know that it was a tar archive.
I was going by this:
http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/backup-restore.html.en
If it's just one tar file,
I can change permissions on the tar file.
A user program really can't do much with the owner informaton in a tar file.

Thanks.

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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Matthew Barnes wrote:


On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 22:48 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:

Am Montag, den 23.01.2012, 14:15 -0600 schrieb Michael Hennebry:

My current linux distribution is EOL.
I'm planning to use a different home directory for the next install.
What files do I need to copy from old to new to continue as before?
I've been looking, but not finding.


What version of Evolution do you use? Your questions should be answered
in the Evolution FAQ [1].



But we also have a Backup  Restore tool, which is easier:
http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/backup-restore.html.en


Thanks.

When I do the backup, I'll be user 500.
When I do the restore, I'll be user 1000.
Is there a problem with that?

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[Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Hennebry

My current linux distribution is EOL.
I'm planning to use a different home directory for the next install.
What files do I need to copy from old to new to continue as before?
I've been looking, but not finding.

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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012, Matthew Barnes wrote:


On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 22:48 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:

Am Montag, den 23.01.2012, 14:15 -0600 schrieb Michael Hennebry:

My current linux distribution is EOL.
I'm planning to use a different home directory for the next install.
What files do I need to copy from old to new to continue as before?
I've been looking, but not finding.


What version of Evolution do you use? Your questions should be answered
in the Evolution FAQ [1].


Or better, in the new user docs:
http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/data-storage.html.en

But we also have a Backup  Restore tool, which is easier:
http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/backup-restore.html.en


Silly me.
I need to take my brain out and soak it.

Thanks folks.

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Re: [Evolution] unsearching

2011-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Milan Crha wrote:


On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 13:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I sent a test message to an exchange account that I access through IMAP.
The message is visible through the web interface,
but so far as I can tell, evolution hasn't found it yet.
Refresh does not seem to do the trick.
Before I discovered sort, I did a search.
The test message was not in the result, but should have been.
Having done the seach, I can't seem to get out of it.
All I can see of my Inbox is the search result.
Quitting and restarting does not help.
How do I see the rest of my messages?



what is the evolution version, please? There is a similar bug report for


2.32.2


searches not being vanished properly when moving between folders, though
UI looks like not filter being applied. The workaround is to set a new
filtering by writing some text in the Search filed above the message
list, then erase it with the clear button on the right. That may
return back your messages.


Thanks.  That worked.


One reason that I want to refresh is that exchange
plays game with images to protect your privacy.
In a lot of cases,
leaving out the images makes it hard to look at, much less read.
On the web interface, I got them back in for a useful fraction.
Now I would like to acess them through evolution.
If I get it working, will a standard refresh take care of that?
If not, what do I need to do?
I expect that deleting and reinstalling folders would do the trick,
but I was hoping for something less drastic.

Is there a way to handle the image problem just through evolution?


I'm afraid if that's server-side cleverness, then if it doesn't send
those images to a client, then there is nothing one can do. But, if the
images are not attached into the message, then try to change
Edit-Preferences-Mail Preferences-HTML Messages tab, Loading images
section, which is the place where you influence whether you want to see
remote images or not. The quick test is to select the message and press
View-Load Images (Ctrl+I), which forces load of them - supposing you
see HTML messages as HTML, not as plain text (usually monospaced, like
this message) - setup is below the one for Load Images.


Thanks.  THatworked.

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Re: [Evolution] unsearching

2011-11-02 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Pete Biggs wrote:


On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 13:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I sent a test message to an exchange account that I access through IMAP.
The message is visible through the web interface,
but so far as I can tell, evolution hasn't found it yet.
Refresh does not seem to do the trick.
Before I discovered sort, I did a search.
The test message was not in the result, but should have been.
Having done the seach, I can't seem to get out of it.
All I can see of my Inbox is the search result.
Quitting and restarting does not help.
How do I see the rest of my messages?
Why can't I refresh?


You don't say, but can we just check that you have cleared the search by
pressing the yellow brush (I think it's supposed to be??) icon at the
right hand end of the search box?


I have now.


In general it is thought to be a bad thing to load all images in every
message - many spam mailers use these net images to monitor and harvest
addresses that are live: a small single pixel gif with a unique name
will immediately tell a spammer that the message that contained it was
delivered and read and hence went to a live address. This is just one of
the many ways images in emails can be used in naughty way - there are
many others.


In this case, the messages are from a son-to-be-defunct source from
which such problems have been deleted.

Also, thanks for giving the information along with the don't-do-that.

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[Evolution] unsearching

2011-11-01 Thread Michael Hennebry


I sent a test message to an exchange account that I access through IMAP.
The message is visible through the web interface,
but so far as I can tell, evolution hasn't found it yet.
Refresh does not seem to do the trick.
Before I discovered sort, I did a search.
The test message was not in the result, but should have been.
Having done the seach, I can't seem to get out of it.
All I can see of my Inbox is the search result.
Quitting and restarting does not help.
How do I see the rest of my messages?
Why can't I refresh?

One reason that I want to refresh is that exchange
plays game with images to protect your privacy.
In a lot of cases,
leaving out the images makes it hard to look at, much less read.
On the web interface, I got them back in for a useful fraction.
Now I would like to acess them through evolution.
If I get it working, will a standard refresh take care of that?
If not, what do I need to do?
I expect that deleting and reinstalling folders would do the trick,
but I was hoping for something less drastic.

Is there a way to handle the image problem just through evolution?

In case I haven't proved it already, mail clients other than web 
interfaces are still rather new to me.


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Re: [Evolution] Error while Scanning folders in Exchange server red001.mail.microsoftonline.com

2011-06-27 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Pete Biggs wrote:


The identity is just a label used by Evo and along with things like Full
name: and Email address: are not used when connecting to the server and
downloading email.

Looking at various instructions for setting up mail I suspect that the
correct thing to use in your case are the following

Username:  michael.henne...@ndsu.edu
Host Url: https://red001.mail.microsoftonline.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx

If you then click on Fetch Url it should ask for your password and
then populate the OAB Url: box.  If it does, then it should all work.


Still no go.
Clicking on Fetch URL the first time causes
the GUI to ask for my password.
After I give it, the dialog box goes away and nothign changes.
I do get
** (evolution:29449): WARNING **: Autodiscover failed: Code: 6 -
Unexpected response from server
written to the command line,
but I expect that that provides you with no additional information.


However, do you know if microsoftonline.com supports EWS?  Can you
connect to it using Outlook on Windows?  Or do you have to always use
the OWA client?


Outlook is the recommended client.


Yes, but looking at microsoftonline it doesn't actually use normal
methods of configuring Outlook (you need to install a separate client to
do the authentication for you).


That sounds familiar.
I gues I'll have to give this up as a no can do.

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[Evolution] Error while Scanning folders in Exchange server red001.mail.microsoftonline.com

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Hennebry

I've installed evolution-ews on Fedora 14 from a repository:
[home_dwmw2_evo]
name=Evolution updates and EWS (Fedora_14)
type=rpm-md
baseurl=http://download.meego.com/live/home:/dwmw2:/evo/Fedora_14/
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=http://download.meego.com/live/home:/dwmw2:/evo/Fedora_14/repodata/repomd.xml.key
enabled=1

I haven't been able to make it work.
Copying from the account editor:
Identity
Name: michael.henne...@ndsu.edu
Full Name: MJH
Email Address: michael.henne...@ndsu.edu
Receiving Email
Server Type: Exchange Web Services
Username: Michael.Hennebry
Host Url: https://red001.mail.microsoftonline.com/owa/
OAB: Url: ndsu.edu
Authentication Type
Password   Check for Supported Types
Clicking on Check...s
produces a window that goes away really fast.

Why doesn't it like me?

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Re: [Evolution] Error while Scanning folders in Exchange server red001.mail.microsoftonline.com

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Pete Biggs wrote:





I haven't been able to make it work.
Copying from the account editor:
Identity
Name: michael.henne...@ndsu.edu
Full Name: MJH
Email Address: michael.henne...@ndsu.edu
Receiving Email
Server Type: Exchange Web Services
Username: Michael.Hennebry


As I said a few hours ago - the Username needs to be the email address
that delivers mail directly to the exchange server - it must not be an
alias (like your @ndsu.edu address is).  When you click on Fetch URL
it should populate both the Host URL an OAB URL fields with the correct
values.  If it doesn't, then your username or password is wrong.


Debugging with GUIs does bad things to my brain.
I have trouble remembering what I've done before,
so I do a lot of wheel-spinning.
Sometimes it leaves ruts.

There is Email address under Identity and
Username under Receiving Email.
Are these supposed to be the same?


Host Url: https://red001.mail.microsoftonline.com/owa/
OAB: Url: ndsu.edu


Those are probably not correct.  The Host URL is usually something like
https://host.name/ews/exchange.asmx and the OAB URL is
https://host.name/oab/string of numbers/oab.xml

However, do you know if microsoftonline.com supports EWS?  Can you
connect to it using Outlook on Windows?  Or do you have to always use
the OWA client?


Outlook is the recommended client.

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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-22 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, David Woodhouse wrote:


On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 10:02 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

My yum doesn't believe in evolution-ews.


There are Fedora 14 i386 packages at
http://download.meego.com/live/home:/dwmw2:/evo/Fedora_14/
although they need updating. Mail will work there, but the latest
calendar functionality isn't in those yet. Or is going to do that
*today*, I hope?

If you're on Fedora 15 or non-i386, you'll currently need to build from
source. It's not hard:


I'm still on Fedora 13, so I definitely need source.


sudo yum install evolution-devel evolution-data-server-devel pkgconfig(gconf-2.0) 
pkgconfig(glib-2.0) pkgconfig(gtk-doc) gettext intltool gnome-common
git clone git://git.gnome.org/evolution-ews
cd evolution-ews
./autogen.sh


autoconf reports six failures.
Two of the complaints were that ac_nonexistent.h did not exist.
ac_nonexistent.h does not exist.
Apparently ac_nonexistent.h is used as an error marker,
but what error it marks, I cannot tell.
I don't see any way this could have ended well:

configure:4160: $? = 0
configure:4174: gcc -E  conftest.c
conftest.c:11:28: error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory
configure:4174: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h */
| #define PACKAGE_NAME evolution-ews
| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME evolution-ews
| #define PACKAGE_VERSION 0.31.0
| #define PACKAGE_STRING evolution-ews 0.31.0
| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=evolution-ews;
| #define PACKAGE_URL 
| #define PACKAGE evolution-ews
| #define VERSION 0.31.0
| /* end confdefs.h.  */
| #include ac_nonexistent.h

The third was about an extern inside a function.
I think that without -Werror it would have been a warning.
It also complains conftest.c:48: error: conflicting types for built-in
function 'dcgettext'
It lists

| char dcgettext ();

Which differs from the man pages

char * dcgettext (const char * domainname, const char * msgid,
  int category);

The fifth complaint is another about an extern inside a function.
The last is about a missing glib.h
I have /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h .
Do I just have to put in a -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 somewhere?

I've lost all my battles with autoconf,
so I definitely cannot do this myself.

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[Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

I've been trying to get at my Microsoft Exchange account
from Fedora 13 with something other than the web interface.
To that end, I tried
http://www.novell.com/documentation/evolution24/?page=/documentation/evolution24/evolution24/data/outlook-migration-mail.html
Installing Evolution Exchange

To install the Evolution Exchange, run Red Carpet.

   1.

  Click System  Get Software.
   2.

  Click Channels, then select Evolution Exchange.
   3.

  Click Close.
   4.

  Select Evolution Exchange, then click Run Now.

After a few  rounds with yum, I concluded Red Carpet is named smart.
After installing smart-1.3.1-66.fc13.i686,
I tried
smart --gui
I got
error: Interface 'gtk' not available

This means Red Carpet doesn't like me because I'm running KDE?
I tried
smart --shell
Wow.
I get a lot of
New channel ...
Include it? (Y/n)
This could take a while.

How do I install Evolution Exchange?

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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, David Woodhouse wrote:


On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 01:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I've been trying to get at my Microsoft Exchange account
from Fedora 13 with something other than the web interface.


What version of Exchange? If it's newer than 2003, you probably don't


I'm not sure how to find out, but we got it this year,
so I'd expect it to be later than 2003.


want evolution-exchange at all. You want evolution-mapi or
evolution-ews.


Apparently I've managed to find out of date documentation.
Could you point me to current documentation on using evolution-mapi?.
My yum doesn't believe in evolution-ews.

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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Andre Klapper wrote:


On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 10:02 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, David Woodhouse wrote:


On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 01:50 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I've been trying to get at my Microsoft Exchange account
from Fedora 13 with something other than the web interface.


What version of Exchange? If it's newer than 2003, you probably don't


I'm not sure how to find out, but we got it this year,
so I'd expect it to be later than 2003.


Exact version needed.


Exchange 5.5 .


want evolution-exchange at all. You want evolution-mapi or
evolution-ews.


Apparently I've managed to find out of date documentation.
Could you point me to current documentation on using evolution-mapi?.


Not sure if there is anything up to date. Maybe
http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/2.32/usage-exchange.html.en is
partially usable.


Thanks.
It didn't work, but it did detect the 5.5 .

Is brutus the way to go?

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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote:


Exchange 5.5 .


BTW I'm not familiar with Exchange numbering,
so I don't know whether 5.5 is old or new.


Is brutus the way to go?


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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote:


On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Michael Hennebry wrote:


Exchange 5.5 .


BTW I'm not familiar with Exchange numbering,
so I don't know whether 5.5 is old or new.


Nevermind.  I just found it: old.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158530


Is brutus the way to go?


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Re: [Evolution] Installing Evolution Exchange

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Pete Biggs wrote:





Exact version needed.


Exchange 5.5 .


Are you sure!  That's an ancient version - released in 1997.


Fairly certain.
If I try Server Type: Microsoft exchange and OWA URL
https://red001.mail.microsoftonline.com
I'm asked for my password.
After I give it, I get a complaint about 5.5 .

When I try Exchange MAPI,
It mentions Michael.Hennebry@https
and eventually complains of login failure.


Have you installed evolution-mapi?  Can you get it to connect to the
server?


Yes.  No.

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Michael   henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu
Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
Optimist:   The glass is half full.
Engineer:   The glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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