Re: [Evolution] Multipart issue

2020-05-29 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 23:26 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 17:04 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > Unless I have a misconfiguration (very possible), my reading window and
> > 
> > reply composition window don't match. The reading window has HTML
> > 
> > enabled, which uses a typical sans serif font. When I want to reply, I
> > 
> > get a Plain Text / Normal window with a monospace font.
> 
> Have you enabled "Format messages in HTML" under Composer Preferences?
> 
> poc

Patrick,

I would really prefer composing almost everything in plain monospaced
text, with the ability to insert specific objects (HTML, JPG, text,
etc.) in line.

Reading mail isn't as simple because I have to display what I get. If
the inbound is HTML and I only display plain text, well you know. I
think even this response (composed in Plain Text / Normal) will come
back from the list server in HTML format.

In the earlier incarnation of this thread, I was asked to include
journalctl -b information whose lines typically wrap in plain text to
three or four lines. Ugly. But if I highlight that section, switch to
HTML and Preformatted, I must manually force it to use TT font. All
that extra manipulation in Evolution seems to have confused the mail
readers of several folks.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights IL

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Re: [Evolution] Multipart issue

2020-05-29 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 11:22 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 17:31 -0500, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > Here's a copy/paste of the Evolution compose window of my reply to
> > Sam.
> > I've attached the as-sent message from my Sent folder.
> > Unfortunately
> > the cut/past action strips away all HTML formatting carried forward
> > from the original messages from Sam and I when I click on Reply. I
> > Hope
> > this helps.
> > 
> > Fedora and Evolution do not make it easy to insert screen captures
> > to
> > illustrate what's going on in companion terminal windows. I
> > typically
> > have to use a mixture of plain text and HTML encoding to make the
> > outbound message show what I'm trying to demonstrate. I can't just
> > use
> > plain text.
> 
> As Milan says, when doing copy-paste into Evolution, the recommended
> procedure is to use the Preformatted option in the composer's drop-
> down 
> menu. This will stop the composer from imposing its own ideas about
> formatting the pasted text.

Patrick,

I believe following that guidance is what started this flap in the
first place.

Unless I have a misconfiguration (very possible), my reading window and
reply composition window don't match. The reading window has HTML
enabled, which uses a typical sans serif font. When I want to reply, I
get a Plain Text / Normal window with a monospace font. I can send the
reply in that format, but when I see my reply in the mail list it's
shown as HTML rather than plain text. I have no control over that.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights

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Re: [Evolution] Multipart issue

2020-05-28 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 13:25 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 13:01 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 12:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > There's an ongoing discussion on the Fedora Users list about a
> > > post
> > > which included both HTML and plaintext in a multipart message,
> > > but
> > > where the plaintext section is just a blank line instead of a
> > > version
> > > of the HTML text. The poster used Evolution 3.36. How can this be
> > > possible? Is it user error or a bug?
> > 
> > I suspect that something mangled it in the mailing list process!
> 
> Someone suggested that.
> 
> > I don't
> > know how the plain text version is created from the HTML - perhaps
> > there was something in the HTML that confused it?
> 
> Surely the plaintext is created by Evolution itself?
> 
> poc

Pat,

Here's a copy/paste of the Evolution compose window of my reply to Sam.
I've attached the as-sent message from my Sent folder. Unfortunately
the cut/past action strips away all HTML formatting carried forward
from the original messages from Sam and I when I click on Reply. I Hope
this helps.

Fedora and Evolution do not make it easy to insert screen captures to
illustrate what's going on in companion terminal windows. I typically
have to use a mixture of plain text and HTML encoding to make the
outbound message show what I'm trying to demonstrate. I can't just use
plain text.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL

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On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 10:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 5/27/20 9:06 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
After closing the lid on my P72 laptop last week and moving it to the 
livig room, I could not resume F32 when I raised the lid. I had to
hard 
power cycle it, and after bootup I was unable to connect to my WiFi 
router. The router is fine, and WiFi works fine in the dual-booted 
Windows 10. But I can't figure out how to kick start my WiFi
connection. 
I have restarted the P72 multiple times, with no success. The copper 
Ethernet connection works fine.

Any suggestions how to kickstart it? When I try ifup I get this:

# ifup ATT

Error: Connection activation failed: No suitable device found for this 
connection (device lo not available because device is strictly
unmanaged).

What is the output of "nmcli c" and "rfkill list"?

Sam,

# nmcli c
NAMEUUID  TYPE  DEV
ICE 
eth03a1a7b73-df5e-37b9-a9af-
dbc49d4120b3  ethernet  eth0   
virbr0  d24a0759-35b3-4d82-aa5c-
3c88d87165da  bridgevirbr0 
ATT9qua6QD  29a52e1f-717d-4e1a-887c-6a0d799a24b6  wifi  
-- 
Balance 1fc4760b-4dc3-4048-b826-f5d4a37af145  wifi  
-- 
Computer Room   45922de4-f46c-48fa-b893-16844220d7ca  wifi  
-- 
LaQuinta-Effingham  b4e3fd19-01cc-429e-bbb0-d4ec4dbce3bc  wifi  
-- 
SMMS_GUEST  1a716391-f3f9-438b-8840-49e85d02975b  wifi  --

rfkill is new to me:

# rfkill list
0: tpacpi_bluetooth_sw: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
2: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: yes
Hard blocked: yes

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL
Message-ID: <658fd946429a9ea3de63023dac386274d16ccec2.ca...@peaknet.net>
Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72
From: "Robert G (Doc) Savage" 
To: us...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 13:08:28 -0500
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
 
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User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.2 (3.36.2-1.fc32) 
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 12:21 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > When I run grep noti * I get:
> 
>   Hi,
> what you really want is not a grep for "noti", but for
> org.freedesktop.Notifications instead, thus:
> 
> 
>$ grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *
> 
> 
> which returns here:
> 
> 
>org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.No
> tifications
>org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service.orig:Name=org.freedesktop.Not
> ifications
> 
> 
> If it'll still be just a single file, could you try to run the
>$ /usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
> from a terminal, please? Maybe it fails to start for some reason and
> the terminal might give a clue, hopefully.
> 
> 
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Milan,
Let's see:
# grep org.freedesktop.Notifications
*com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service:Name=org.freedesktop.
Notificationsorg.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freede
sktop.Notifications
Looks OK to me.
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 09:27 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> This looks like my problem (though you don't have
> org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service). Try this
> 
> cd /usr/share/dbus-1/services
> 
> gentoo64 services # grep noti *
> 
> org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
> notification-daemon
> 
> org.freedesktop.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
> notification-daemon
> 
> org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=/usr
> /libexec/mate-applets/notification-area-applet
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you find some other notification service there, move it away.
> 
> Then test with notify-send "some msg"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jocke

Jackie
When I run grep noti * I get:
org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
notification-
daemonorg.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=
/usr/libexec/mate-panel/notification-area-ap
So this doesn't appear to be a solution track.
--
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 07:43 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 20:21 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via
> evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click
> > on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is
> > displayed
> 
>   Hi,
> does the same happen when you open the menu System->Preferences->Look
> and Feel->Popup Notifications and click on "Preview" there? If so,
> then
> I guess you have installed more than just MATE desktop in the system,
> which would mean you face:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959
> The comment #1 contains a workaround, apart of uninstalling the other
> desktop environment.

Yes, I get the same long pause when I click on the Preview button.


> If it's not it, then I guess you can still log into a text
> terminal(for example Ctrl+Alt+F3 , of other Fn key), where you can
> capturebacktrace of frozen evolution, to see what it is trying to do.
> Thatwould be done ideally with debuginfo packages at least for
> evolution-data-server and evolution installed, but maybe as a starter
> it can bedone even without it. The command to use is:
>$ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
> Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like
> passwords,email address, server addresses,... I usually search for
> "pass" atleast (quotes for clarity only).
> To return back to the graphical interface use Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 or
> somesuch, your session can be on one of those consoles.
> > Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed
> > to
> > get application states:
> > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get
> > window
> > list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
> > org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with
> > the
> > G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
> 
> Heh, this is funny. So xdg-desktop-por... (possibly xdg-desktop-
> portal-gtk) finally works only under GNOME Shell and nowhere else, or
> someparts of it. That's an interesting news to me. (I've no intention
> tostart a flame war here, it's just funny.)
>   Bye,Milan
Milan,


My system was originally installed with a F29 MATE spin ISO, then
upgraded to F30 and F31 with dnf. I have never consciously installed
any other desktop. Here's the contents of /usr/share/dbus-1/services/.
The MATE stuff is bolded.


# ls -lr total 720-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jan  7 08:01
ca.desrt.dconf-editor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   68 Sep 10 02:29
ca.desrt.dconf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Jul 24 15:09
certmonger.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.LastoreSessionHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   84
Jun  5  2019 com.deepin.ScreenSaver.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   92
Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.CursorHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   81 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Graphic.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   94 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.LunarCalendar.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   83 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Pinyin.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.api.XEventMonitor.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Appearance.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Audio.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  100 Aug
10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Bluetooth.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Fprintd.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  103 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.InputDevices.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Keybinding.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.LangSelector.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Mime.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Miracast.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Network.service-rw-r--r
--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Power.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   85 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Search.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.SessionWatcher.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   95
Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SoundEffect.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SystemInfo.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Timedate.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Zone.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root   83 Jul 16  2019
com.deepin.dde.ControlCenter.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jul
16  2019 com.deepin.dde.MemoryWarningDialog.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   89 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.Notification.service-rw-r--r--. 

[Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-16 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
New member to this list. 

I've been advised by the Community support for Fedora users <
us...@lists.fedoraproject.org> list to post this to your list since it
involves an Evolution problem. The system is a fully-updated Fedora 31
with the MATE desktop and running Evolution v3.334.2-1.fc31. If further
environmental details are required, please ask.

I'm having persistent problems with Evolution fetching and reading Pop
mail from a local ISP. Every time I connect to a different folder, set
a filter, or click on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before
the result is displayed. I see the same pauses with existing, already
downloaded mail. Thee pauses affect the entire system. When I run
"journalctl -fa" in a Terminal window I see the following:

Jan 15 23:01:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:02:32 tiger.protogeek.org pcp-pmie[2148]: High aggregate
context switch rate 48447ctxsw/s...@tiger.protogeek.org
Jan 15 23:02:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:03:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:03:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:04:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:04:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7

When I so try to view man kernel_lockdown.7, I get "No manual entry for
kernel_lockdown.7"

Whatever is causing Evolution to lock up for 24-26 seconds is doing the
same to my entire system. Ideas? Suggestions?

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL
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