Re: [Evolution] Moving to Evo from Thunderbird?
Before anyone asks, upgrading to the Rawhide version means installing a large number of additional packages so I don't care to do that, having had other stability problems with Rawhide in the past. poc I think that upgrading only to find new and different problems is un-settling at best. Also, I am not keen on the fact that evolution is so dependent on so many other packages, gtk, libsoup, etc. and the only convenient way to upgrade evolution is to upgrade to a newer version of your favorite OS. This is the kind of thing that prevents Linux from making any ground in the enterprise for regular everyday users. Way too much change and a lack stability. When I get newer versions of Firefox or Thunderbird I don't have to upgrade my whole OS and should not. Just a thought don't flame me to death over this it is just a suggestion that if evolution could stand on it's own on a Linux platform that would sure help. And yes there are way more problems with the exchange accounts on evolution than there are with IMAP or POP accounts. Filters are flaky on exchange, the whole exchange backend process dies a lot. whereas my POP account just keeps working and the filters work for it as well. Todd ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution problem
Well that worked magic for me, things are back to normal, and as an added bonus this started the filters working on the exchange inbox which I had given up on getting an answer on. The filters worked the first two times evolution was running, but they have stopped again. Oh well. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution problem
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:16 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 13:25 -0600, Ness, Todd wrote: This morning, I have been getting quite a few hangs, and “Lost connections to backend Exchange process” errors. There have been a number of bugs fixed in 2.12.1, FWIW. However, a number of known bugs remain. When I get into a state like this I (a) shut down evo, (b) make sure all evolution processes are gone (with kill or pkill or whatever), then (c) remove all cached mail from my exchange account: rm -rf ~/.evolution/exchange ~/.evolution/mail/exchange if you have other types of accounts (POP or IMAP), as I do, be careful to delete just the exchange directories. After this Evo will be slow to start the first time as it recreates the inbox cache, and the first delete will also be slow as it recreates the deleted items folder cache. But, it should solve all your connectivity issues. These days I have to do this every few days, mainly due to this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478151 which is still happening consistently even on the very latest SVN checkout. Well that worked magic for me, things are back to normal, and as an added bonus this started the filters working on the exchange inbox which I had given up on getting an answer on. Thank you Paul ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution problem
That was cute, sorry about the apple name showing up everybody it is not a spam, forgot to change the name in the account field. On 11/6/07 7:47 AM, Apple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks much for the info, I booted my SLED box and evo 2.6 was connecting fine so I figured there would be a good fix. I brought the Mac to work today so I am using Entourage I will give that a shot tonight when I get home. On 11/6/07 7:16 AM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 13:25 -0600, Ness, Todd wrote: This morning, I have been getting quite a few hangs, and ³Lost connections to backend Exchange process² errors. There have been a number of bugs fixed in 2.12.1, FWIW. However, a number of known bugs remain. When I get into a state like this I (a) shut down evo, (b) make sure all evolution processes are gone (with kill or pkill or whatever), then (c) remove all cached mail from my exchange account: rm -rf ~/.evolution/exchange ~/.evolution/mail/exchange if you have other types of accounts (POP or IMAP), as I do, be careful to delete just the exchange directories. After this Evo will be slow to start the first time as it recreates the inbox cache, and the first delete will also be slow as it recreates the deleted items folder cache. But, it should solve all your connectivity issues. These days I have to do this every few days, mainly due to this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478151 which is still happening consistently even on the very latest SVN checkout. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug
What is really interesting since I restarted evo with the debug setting it has ran all the rest of yesterday into this morning... On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 08:22 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 00:59 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Note that in order to be this bug, the CPU must be active while Evo tries to display the message. If the CPU is idle it's something else (you didn't mention either way). I'm missing something here. How can Evo try to display the message when the CPU is idle? When the CPU is idle nobody is doing anything except waiting. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Todd Ness Infrastructure Specialist - Workplace Services Non-Windows ADS Electronic Data Systems - Integration Engineering - Americas Louisville Office+1-303-665-1648 Mobile Phone +1-303-263-2589 Apple Certified System Administrator Solaris10 Certified System Administrator ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:23 -0400, Rob Cambra wrote: Hi, I represent a company with 600+ end users. We are actively seeking replacements for many Microsoft technologies such as Outlook/Exchange and MS Office. We are currently testing OpenOffice.org and Evolution with select users and the IT Staff. The biggest complaint we see with Evolution after one month of use is the apparent inability of Evolution to properly handle HTML-based e-mail with Internet content. For instance, when a user receives an HTML message with graphics and other content fetched from Internet locations, the reading pane (lower right pane) freezes. At this point, you can't use the reading pane anymore and Evolution can't be closed out. The only option to return Evolution to normal functionality is to log off the user. We've seen this behavior on Ubuntu 7.10 using Evolution as an Exchange client. This is meant as constructive feedback because we want your technology to succeed. Some things I have found to make evolution a little better. give it a wrapper script similar to this. #!/bin/bash export EVOLUTION_COUNT_TRASH=1 ulimit -n 1024 exec /usr/bin/evolution the file limit helped a lot. Also, instead of logging the user out you can open a shell and run: pkill -f evolution and then start your client up again. I have been asking several questions the last 2 weeks about why evolution freezes as well and have not seen much help. I would assume that they will need more information such as the version of evolution you are running. run this command in a terminal... rpm -qa|grep evolution But, who knows maybe the lack of information will get a response Good Luck from a guy who is totally invested in non-Windows platforms making to the desktop -- Todd Ness Infrastructure Specialist - Workplace Services Non-Windows ADS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug
Pkill just searches for all processes of the current user which match the leading pattern evolution and kills them. evolution --force-shutdown kills evolution evolution-data-server evolution-exchange evolution-alarm-notify In this case there isnt much of a difference since you probably dont have any other application called evolution-* which is running but is unrelated to evolution. Its fairly straightforward to see that using evolution --force-shutdown is a much safer bet. Hope that helps. Cheers, Shreyas the -f flag matches on the entire command line. yes the --force-shutdown, any how I just used this option and it has the added benefit that it restarts evolution for you so a much better plan (I think) The real question is why does evolution have so many problems? I restart 10-15 times a day. First I thought it might be a problem with the exchange option of synchronize for offline usage I won't try to get the exact wording because that is what caused evolution to hang for 5 minutes during the last reply. Why did I think this? because most of the time the status bar would get a Retrieving message 1234123421... and a Downloading for offline usage... the text may be off some on these I apologize if that is the case. So, I turned this off and well it was better for a couple of hours and then it was back to the same old problems no mail showing up. can't change to a different folder. Although I do get a new error dialog more often, Can't refresh folder, and a few Could not contact server, lost contact with backend exchange process, but these do not all of these require restarts. Filters on exchange 2.12.0 seem to have stopped working whereas they worked on 2.8, but that was much worse about staying connected and getting new mail. Then I submit questions and get no answers, but, I have found out that if I submit a slightly wrong answer for somebody I do generate replies, and I appreciate Patrick correcting my mistakes, I will not make the same ones again. BTW, entourage the MS mail client for Macintosh can sit here next to my Linux box and run all day, reminders pop up, mail comes in, no problems, so I am pretty sure that it is not a network issue. So, sorry to take over your original string with my complaints too, but I do have a vested interest in getting tools that will enable an enterprise to use a Linux desktop and not have these sorts of issues. -- Todd Ness ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug
You are right again. my personal wrapper was getting executed when I was running and it of course was not forwarding the command line args to the /usr/bin/evolution, so at any rate the next 3 times the UI hung I was just restarting the UI and not the background processes which made it fail even more frequently and eventually would not start at all. I have added the DEBUG option as well, and maybe a developer might ask for something to figure out this problem. it is sad to think that MS might make a better exchange mail tool with the release of the full feature browser client for FireFox in exchange 2007. AFAIK --force-shutdown does not restart Evo automatically. I've certainly never seen it do this. It justs shuts it down. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo FAQ -- Was Re: Evo 2.10.0 to Evo 2.12.0 on new drive?
The first thing that jumps out at me on the documentation link provided are the evolution 2.6 release notes. Which makes me think that oh this must be an unmaintained site. Then if you study carefully you might notice this small FAQ and user manual for 2.12. Maybe that ought to be re-done so that what you want people to see/use is prominent. It is just a suggestion though. I could be one of the rare Morons that gets distracted by the old version number being 3 times the size of the current documentation On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 10:15 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: I concur. Very good idea. Note that I've also recently added a link to the FAQ from the Evolution project website, not that anyone ever looks there. http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/documentation.shtml Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Todd Ness ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
