[Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
Evolution 3.46.0 (flathub) on Zorin 15.3 How do i get the previous interface back? Can't find a setting that's relevant. I'm not talking about preferences for composinig mail.. i'm talking about the interface ribbon at the top (titled mail, includes the min/mac/close buttons) that is now arrows and road signs that used to be text.. changing the interface text to icons has severely hampered my productivity.. i didn't become literate only to have to deal with cutsie graphics like an illiterate toddler.. Keep in touch.. Tim Ehrenhaft Skype: reverandtimothy US: 931.444.5239 EU: 372.5335.9733 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:34 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft wrote: > How do i get the previous interface back? Hi, I don't use a desktop environment, but just a plain window manager named openbox. To get rid of gtk3 client side decoration on an up to date Arch Linux rolling release, I'm using https://github.com/ZaWertun/gtk3-nocsd git version r82.512c2bd. It works without causing any trouble. However, it doesn't help with gtk4 applications. To use a gtk4 application you need to be able to read, since icons for min/max/close are dropped and replaced by a right click menu with text only. There's no title at all anymore. IOW gtk4 is a design disaster and Evolution soon or later migrates to gtk4, too. While gtk3-nocsd usually works without issues on Ubuntu flavours, I don't know if it is helpful for apps installed by a flatpak. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:34 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft wrote: > Evolution 3.46.0 (flathub) on Zorin 15.3 > > How do i get the previous interface back? You wait for 3.46.1 and upgrade once it's released: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/2039 Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > However, it doesn't help with gtk4 applications. To use a gtk4 > application you need to be able to read, since icons for > min/max/close are dropped and replaced by a right click menu with > text only. There's no title at all anymore. That's off-topic (as Evolution doesn't use GTK version 4). And it's also misleading when it comes to GTK 4 "icons". Please move off-topic stuff to forums instead. Thanks, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:34 +0300, Tim Ehrenhaft via evolution-list wrote: > Evolution 3.46.0 (flathub) on Zorin 15.3 > > How do i get the previous interface back? Can't find a setting that's > relevant. > I'm not talking about preferences for composinig mail.. i'm talking > about the interface ribbon at the top (titled mail, includes the > min/mac/close buttons) that is now arrows and road signs that used to > be text.. It's called "client side decorations" - "CSD". Like everything to do with interface design and changes in general, it seems to be a bit divisive to some people. > > changing the interface text to icons has severely hampered my > productivity.. i didn't become literate only to have to deal with > cutsie graphics like an illiterate toddler.. > I'm curious. Do you read the menu and interface text each time to decide what to press on or do you sort of just know what you need to press with only a quick glance at the text? To me, the "shape" of what is there is the most important - I don't really care if it is a glyph made up of a "cutsie" icon or a series of strokes that look like one or more letters. Either way one learns what the glyph does. I suppose it depends on how your mind is constructed. (I used to be able to work with Chinese Windows - I don't know Chinese, but I knew where all the menu items should be and what the icons look like!) And if you consider your icon set to be "cutsie", change the icon set to something that more matches your sensibilities. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
On Sun, 2022-10-16 at 19:38 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > That's off-topic (as Evolution doesn't use GTK version 4). Hi, my point is, that nowadays https://github.com/ZaWertun/gtk3-nocsd does help, but soon or later Evolution likely migrates to gtk4 and then there's no workaround to get rid of it. OTOH I'm not quite sure if it will solve all issues mentioned by the OP. Tool bars tend to use ambiguous icons, whatever icon theme is used and text is only provided for a few tool bar options, several options only show an icon. To me it sounds like the OP is facing several issues, not only the CSD thingy. Maybe I misunderstood the OP's request. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] 3.46.0 interface question
Dnia 16.10.2022 o godz. 19:14:36 Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list pisze: > To get rid of gtk3 client side decoration on an up to date Arch > Linux rolling release, I'm using https://github.com/ZaWertun/gtk3-nocsd Hm... I tried gtk3-nocsd (not on Evolution though, as my version does not use CSD, but on other apps), and the only thing it does is to move the CSDs from the title bar to an additional bar below the title bar. The CSDs itself however stay as they are. I wouldn't call this "getting rid" of them... -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa r...@rafa.eu.org -- "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
