Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-14 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
I was unable to duplicate the issue running more extensive testing, so
unfortunately, it doesn't seem I'm going to be able to produce an error
log for you.

I may try re-enabling sent items and see if the server might no longer
be glitching. It's possible.

Thanks!
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On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 14:12 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 20:57 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > If you can remind me of what Terminal command I need to run and
> > what
> > specific steps I need to take for this, that would be great. In the
> > troubleshooting steps I performed with my email hosting provider on
> > this, much of our previous conversation was wiped out, so I'm not
> > seeing some of our past conversation history on the commands/steps
> > I
> > need to run.
> 
> Hi,
> it seems you run a development version under Flatpak. I hope you are
> aware that the development version can have its own bugs. Any early
> testing is appreciated, I only wanted to mention it.
> 
> If you have more IMAP accounts configured, then disable all but the
> affected account. That will help to not mix debugging output from
> multiple accounts. Once done, close Evolution, then run from a
> terminal:
> 
>    $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution
>    $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
> 
> Once the output stops adding, drag a message from an On This Computer
> folder to one of the IMAP account's folder. You should see in the log
> an APPEND command, whose progress and result is important. After that
> drop a message into the IMAP's Sent folder, whether it'll fail or
> work
> as when sending messages. The debug log should have added another
> APPEND command. Make sure you won't expose anything private from the
> log. Even if you cannot decipher some blobs, they can be decoded by a
> machine and expose your credentials or any other thing, thus, if
> unsure, rather replace the blobs with X or similar.
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
> P.S.: By the way, you can reach the archive when you go to menu
> Message->Mailing List->Get List Archive, or when you click the link
> at
> the end of every message received through this list:
> 
>   
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-11 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Great. I'll test this week and report back.

Thanks!
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On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 07:51 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 19:29 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I could try running the tests again and go a little more extensive
> > and see if I can isolate any error messages. Let me know if you
> > recommend I proceed.
> 
> Hi,
> I'll left it up to you. As the previous test succeeded, it's possible
> it cured itself meanwhile, at least temporarily.
> 
> What I'm trying to verify is whether a regular APPEND can replicate
> the
> problem. It should behave consistently with the "save to the Sent
> folder" operation.
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-10 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 19:29 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> I could try running the tests again and go a little more extensive
> and see if I can isolate any error messages. Let me know if you
> recommend I proceed.

Hi,
I'll left it up to you. As the previous test succeeded, it's possible
it cured itself meanwhile, at least temporarily.

What I'm trying to verify is whether a regular APPEND can replicate the
problem. It should behave consistently with the "save to the Sent
folder" operation.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-10 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Thanks for the followup. I could try running the tests again and go a
little more extensive and see if I can isolate any error messages. Let
me know if you recommend I proceed.

Thanks!
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On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 09:23 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 17:21 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I just re-ran the tests you requested. 
> 
> Hi,
> if I read the content properly, then both APPEND commands had been
> followed by:
> 
> > > [imapx:A] I/O: '+ Ready for argument'
> 
> and then succeeded, just as expected, meaning you've not been able to
> reproduce the problem.
> 
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-10 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2022-01-07 at 17:21 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> I just re-ran the tests you requested. 

Hi,
if I read the content properly, then both APPEND commands had been
followed by:

>> [imapx:A] I/O: '+ Ready for argument'

and then succeeded, just as expected, meaning you've not been able to
reproduce the problem.

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-07 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Thanks! I just re-ran the tests you requested. Here are the Terminal
outputs. I only blanked out the first of my email (which is the email
address from which I am sending this). The rest of the content isn't
sensitive enough to black out. Thanks!

parkernathan@iMac:~$ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution
parkernathan@iMac:~$ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run
org.gnome.Evolution
Gtk-Message: 17:13:07.690: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"

(evolution.bin:54): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: 17:13:08.755: Failed to
add service 'Sendmail' (sendmail): No provider available for protocol
“sendmail”
Gtk-Message: 17:13:09.333: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
Gtk-Message: 17:13:09.727: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
[imapx:A] I/O: '* OK IMAP (C) webmate.me (Version 7.6h-2)'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A0 CAPABILITY'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE QUOTA UIDPLUS
IDLE SORT SPECIAL-USE SURGEMAIL UNAUTHENTICATE'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A0 OK Capability completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A1 LOGIN ...'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A1 OK login completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A2 CAPABILITY'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE QUOTA UIDPLUS
IDLE SORT SPECIAL-USE SURGEMAIL UNAUTHENTICATE'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A2 OK Capability completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 NAMESPACE'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" "/")) NIL NIL'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 OK namespace done'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A4 LIST "" INBOX'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST () "/" "INBOX"'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A4 OK LIST completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A5 LSUB "" INBOX'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LSUB () "/" INBOX'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A5 OK LSUB completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A6 SELECT INBOX'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* 15 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1548898140] Uid epoch
* OK [UIDNEXT 118955] Predicted next uid
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen $Forwarded )
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen
$Forwarded )] Limited'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A6 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A7 NOOP'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A7 OK OK NOOP completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A8 LIST "" Later'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST () "/" "Later"'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A8 OK LIST completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LSUB "" Later'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LSUB () "/" "Later"'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 OK LSUB completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* OK IMAP (C) webmate.me (Version 7.6h-2)'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00010 CAPABILITY'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE QUOTA UIDPLUS
IDLE SORT SPECIAL-USE SURGEMAIL UNAUTHENTICATE'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00010 OK Capability completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00011 LOGIN ...'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00011 OK login completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00012 CAPABILITY'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 NAMESPACE QUOTA UIDPLUS
IDLE SORT SPECIAL-USE SURGEMAIL UNAUTHENTICATE'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00012 OK Capability completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00013 NAMESPACE'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" "/")) NIL NIL'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00013 OK namespace done'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00014 LIST "" "*"'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00015 LIST "" Spam'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* LIST () "/" "INBOX"
* LIST () "/" "Blocked"
* LIST () "/" "Later"
* LIST () "/" "Archive"
* LIST () "/" "Trash"
* LIST () "/" "Junk"
* LIST () "/" "Sent"
* LIST () "/" "Drafts"
* LIST () "/" "Spam"'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00014 OK LIST completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 LSUB "" "*"'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* LSUB () "/" INBOX
* LSUB () "/" "Blocked"
* LSUB () "/" "Later"
* LSUB () "/" "Junk"
* LSUB () "/" "Archive"
* LSUB () "/" "Drafts"
* LSUB () "/" "Sent"
* LSUB () "/" "Spam"
* LSUB () "/" "Trash"'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 OK LSUB completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00017 SELECT INBOX'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* 15 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1548898140] Uid epoch
* OK [UIDNEXT 118955] Predicted next uid
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen $Forwarded )
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen
$Forwarded )] Limited'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST () "/" "Spam"'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00017 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00018 IDLE'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00015 OK LIST completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00019 LSUB "" Spam'
[imapx:B] I/O: '+ idling'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LSUB () "/" "Spam"'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00019 OK LSUB completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: ''
[imapx:B] I/O: 'DONE'
[imapx:B] I/O: ''
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00018 OK IDLE completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00020 NOOP'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00020 OK OK NOOP completed'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00021 APPEND INBOX (\SEEN) "07-Jan-2022 23:10:42
+" {1456}'
[imapx:A] I/O: '+ Ready for argument'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin
(res=PASS));
envelope-from=185.159.157.24;
Received: from [10.18.0.2] (unverified [185.159.157.24]) 
by mx1.webmate.me (mx1.webmate.me) with ESMTP (TLS) id 183570414-
1269743 
for <@webmate.me>; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 23:10:45 +
Return-Path: <@webmate.me>
Message-ID: 
Subject: Test 1
From: Nathan Parker <@webmate.me>
Reply-To: @webmate.me
To: Nathan Parker <@webmate.me>
Date: Fri, 

Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-05 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Thanks for this. I will test this by the end of the week and report
back.
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On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 14:12 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 20:57 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > If you can remind me of what Terminal command I need to run and
> > what
> > specific steps I need to take for this, that would be great. In the
> > troubleshooting steps I performed with my email hosting provider on
> > this, much of our previous conversation was wiped out, so I'm not
> > seeing some of our past conversation history on the commands/steps
> > I
> > need to run.
> 
> Hi,
> it seems you run a development version under Flatpak. I hope you are
> aware that the development version can have its own bugs. Any early
> testing is appreciated, I only wanted to mention it.
> 
> If you have more IMAP accounts configured, then disable all but the
> affected account. That will help to not mix debugging output from
> multiple accounts. Once done, close Evolution, then run from a
> terminal:
> 
>    $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution
>    $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution
> 
> Once the output stops adding, drag a message from an On This Computer
> folder to one of the IMAP account's folder. You should see in the log
> an APPEND command, whose progress and result is important. After that
> drop a message into the IMAP's Sent folder, whether it'll fail or
> work
> as when sending messages. The debug log should have added another
> APPEND command. Make sure you won't expose anything private from the
> log. Even if you cannot decipher some blobs, they can be decoded by a
> machine and expose your credentials or any other thing, thus, if
> unsure, rather replace the blobs with X or similar.
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
> P.S.: By the way, you can reach the archive when you go to menu
> Message->Mailing List->Get List Archive, or when you click the link
> at
> the end of every message received through this list:
> 
>   
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-05 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 20:57 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> If you can remind me of what Terminal command I need to run and what
> specific steps I need to take for this, that would be great. In the
> troubleshooting steps I performed with my email hosting provider on
> this, much of our previous conversation was wiped out, so I'm not
> seeing some of our past conversation history on the commands/steps I
> need to run.

Hi,
it seems you run a development version under Flatpak. I hope you are
aware that the development version can have its own bugs. Any early
testing is appreciated, I only wanted to mention it.

If you have more IMAP accounts configured, then disable all but the
affected account. That will help to not mix debugging output from
multiple accounts. Once done, close Evolution, then run from a
terminal:

   $ flatpak kill org.gnome.Evolution
   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

Once the output stops adding, drag a message from an On This Computer
folder to one of the IMAP account's folder. You should see in the log
an APPEND command, whose progress and result is important. After that
drop a message into the IMAP's Sent folder, whether it'll fail or work
as when sending messages. The debug log should have added another
APPEND command. Make sure you won't expose anything private from the
log. Even if you cannot decipher some blobs, they can be decoded by a
machine and expose your credentials or any other thing, thus, if
unsure, rather replace the blobs with X or similar.
Bye,
Milan

P.S.: By the way, you can reach the archive when you go to menu
Message->Mailing List->Get List Archive, or when you click the link at
the end of every message received through this list:

  

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-04 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Sounds good. I can go ahead and proceed with the test so you can see
what's going on.

If you can remind me of what Terminal command I need to run and what
specific steps I need to take for this, that would be great. In the
troubleshooting steps I performed with my email hosting provider on
this, much of our previous conversation was wiped out, so I'm not
seeing some of our past conversation history on the commands/steps I
need to run.

Thanks!
-- 
Nathan Parker

On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 07:24 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-01-03 at 15:16 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Since this is my personal inbox, should I proceed with the re-test,
> > or should I just not opt to store sent messages? Since this is my
> > personal inbox, it isn't quite as urgent.
> 
> Hi,
> it's up to you. I'd like to verify whether regular message addition
> (the APPEND command) reproduces the problem, both in the Sent folder
> and in other folders on that account, but that's probably the most we
> can do about it.
> 
> Alternatively try the same with another mail client, like Claws Mail,
> Geary or Thunderbird. The important part is to use the APPEND
> command,
> because copy messages between folders of the same account can use
> other
> commands to do the job. It's also possible the other clients will
> ignore the empty line response (which had been shown in your logs).
> 
> By the way, you can store Sent messages in other folder/account, like
> under the On This Computer/Sent folder. No need to lost the history.
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2022-01-03 at 15:16 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> Since this is my personal inbox, should I proceed with the re-test,
> or should I just not opt to store sent messages? Since this is my
> personal inbox, it isn't quite as urgent.

Hi,
it's up to you. I'd like to verify whether regular message addition
(the APPEND command) reproduces the problem, both in the Sent folder
and in other folders on that account, but that's probably the most we
can do about it.

Alternatively try the same with another mail client, like Claws Mail,
Geary or Thunderbird. The important part is to use the APPEND command,
because copy messages between folders of the same account can use other
commands to do the job. It's also possible the other clients will
ignore the empty line response (which had been shown in your logs).

By the way, you can store Sent messages in other folder/account, like
under the On This Computer/Sent folder. No need to lost the history.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-03 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
I don't recall seeing that line in the log (but I don't have the log in
front of me at the moment).

When I disable storing items in a Sent folder, the error message goes
away (it just doesn't store my sent mail). Since this is my personal
inbox, should I proceed with the re-test, or should I just not opt to
store sent messages? Since this is my personal inbox, it isn't quite as
urgent.

My email hosting provider did the same tests, but they couldn't
duplicate my error.

Thanks!
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On Mon, 2022-01-03 at 10:17 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 19:38 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I didn’t remove/redact any of the above lines.
> 
> Hi,
> okay, no need to send the whole log then.
> 
> Could you search for the CAPABILITY/CAPABILITIES line, to see whether
> the server advertises what it is, please?
> 
> Also, try to copy a message from a different account to another
> folder
> of the affected account, and also to the Sent folder of the affected
> account. I suppose the copy (the APPEND command) will fail with the
> Sent folder, but I'm not sure whether it'll work or not with other
> than
> the Sent folder.
> Bye,
> Milan
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2022-01-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 19:38 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> I didn’t remove/redact any of the above lines.

Hi,
okay, no need to send the whole log then.

Could you search for the CAPABILITY/CAPABILITIES line, to see whether
the server advertises what it is, please?

Also, try to copy a message from a different account to another folder
of the affected account, and also to the Sent folder of the affected
account. I suppose the copy (the APPEND command) will fail with the
Sent folder, but I'm not sure whether it'll work or not with other than
the Sent folder.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-17 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Thanks for the followup. I didn’t remove/redact any of the above lines. I could 
re-run the test and send you the link to the complete log if you need to see 
it, that way you’d have access to the log to search on. I’ver found a way to 
run the test without exposing too much personal information, so I’d be willing 
to try that and send you back the full log if need be (I could provide a link 
to download it so I’m not dumping the entire log contents here.

Thanks!

Nathan Parker
On Dec 17, 2021, 1:03 AM -0600, Milan Crha via evolution-list 
, wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 01:06 +0100, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > [imapx:A] I/O: 'A00021 APPEND Sent (\SEEN) "17-Dec-2021 00:00:23
> > +" {954}'
> > [imapx:A] I/O: ''
> > [imapx:B] I/O: 'B00022 SELECT INBOX'
>
> Hi,
> did you remove/redacted any of the above lines, please? After the
> APPEND, a stream of 954 bytes was supposed to be written to the server.
>
> I guess from that the server did not respond in an expected way.
> Looking at the RFC3501, the APPEND example [1] shows a "+" server
> response being expected, to confirm it's ready to receive the data.
>
> It would be interesting to know whether other folders behave the same.
> When you search the log there are CAPABILITY/CAPABILITIES requests and
> responses, where the server sometimes advertises information about
> itself, like what it is and its version.
> Bye,
> Milan
>
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3501.html#page-47
>
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-12-17 at 01:06 +0100, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A00021 APPEND Sent (\SEEN) "17-Dec-2021 00:00:23
> +" {954}'
> [imapx:A] I/O: ''
> [imapx:B] I/O: 'B00022 SELECT INBOX'

Hi,
did you remove/redacted any of the above lines, please? After the
APPEND, a stream of 954 bytes was supposed to be written to the server.

I guess from that the server did not respond in an expected way.
Looking at the RFC3501, the APPEND example [1] shows a "+" server
response being expected, to confirm it's ready to receive the data.

It would be interesting to know whether other folders behave the same.
When you search the log there are CAPABILITY/CAPABILITIES requests and
responses, where the server sometimes advertises information about
itself, like what it is and its version.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3501.html#page-47

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-16 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list


Thanks for the followup. I ran:

$ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

This came back when sending the message:


[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00019 OK IDLE completed (new feature)
* 4863 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1548904006] Uid epoch
* OK [UIDNEXT 12793] Predicted next uid
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen $Forwarded )
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen 
$Forwarded )] Limited'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00021 APPEND Sent (\SEEN) "17-Dec-2021 00:00:23 
+" {954}'

[imapx:A] I/O: ''
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00022 SELECT INBOX'
[imapx:B] I/O: '* 51 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UNSEEN 42] first unseen message
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1548898140] Uid epoch
* OK [UIDNEXT 117245] Predicted next uid
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen $Forwarded )
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen 
$Forwarded )] Limited'

[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00022 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00023 IDLE'
[imapx:B] I/O: '+ idling'

This came back when moving a message from On My Computer to the Sent 
folder on the IMAP server:



[imapx:B] I/O: ''
[imapx:B] I/O: 'DONE'
[imapx:B] I/O: ''
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00023 OK IDLE completed (new feature)'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00024 SELECT Sent'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00023 OK IDLE completed (new feature)
* 4863 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1548904006] Uid epoch
* OK [UIDNEXT 12793] Predicted next uid
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen $Forwarded )
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen 
$Forwarded )] Limited'
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00025 APPEND Sent (\SEEN) "17-Dec-2021 00:00:23 
+" {954}'

[imapx:B] I/O: ''

These error messages came back when I first started running the 
command and Evolution first launched, if this helps pinpoint anything:



Gtk-Message: 17:59:48.157: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"

(evolution.bin:26): e-mail-engine-WARNING **: 17:59:49.016: Failed to 
add service 'Sendmail' (sendmail): No provider available for protocol 
“sendmail”

Gtk-Message: 17:59:49.541: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"
Gtk-Message: 17:59:49.831: Failed to load module "xapp-gtk3-module"

Let me know if you need more tests run.

Thanks!

Nathan Parker



On Thursday 12/16/2021 at 1:41 am, Milan Crha via evolution-list  
wrote:

On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 17:42 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:


Is there something else I need to try or something I need to run by
my email hosting provider?


Hi,
similar as in my first message in this thread, just the command is
slightly different:

 $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

The log contains raw communication between the server and the
evolution. It does contain a lot of private information, in a free 
form

or encoded in some blobs. Make sure you don't expose anything private.
Even if the blob won't be readable by a human, it can be read by a
machine, thus remove those if unsure.

I won't need the whole log too. Simply run Evolution, wait until the
output on the console stops, then send a message and include only the
part when the message had been sent.

By the way, will it fail also when you copy a message from an On This
Computer account to the Sent folder in the affected account, please?
That should use the same function as the message send. Just in case, I
really mean from the On This Computer, because using a message in a
folder of the same account can use different ways to copy the message.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-12-15 at 17:42 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> Is there something else I need to try or something I need to run by
> my email hosting provider?

Hi,
similar as in my first message in this thread, just the command is
slightly different:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io flatpak run org.gnome.Evolution

The log contains raw communication between the server and the
evolution. It does contain a lot of private information, in a free form
or encoded in some blobs. Make sure you don't expose anything private.
Even if the blob won't be readable by a human, it can be read by a
machine, thus remove those if unsure.

I won't need the whole log too. Simply run Evolution, wait until the
output on the console stops, then send a message and include only the
part when the message had been sent.

By the way, will it fail also when you copy a message from an On This
Computer account to the Sent folder in the affected account, please?
That should use the same function as the message send. Just in case, I
really mean from the On This Computer, because using a message in a
folder of the same account can use different ways to copy the message.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-15 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
I uninstalled the DEB and installed the 3.42.2 Flatpak, and the same error 
message occurs when I attempt to send something using the WebMate account on 
3.42.2.

Is there something else I need to try or something I need to run by my email 
hosting provider?

Once I resolve this issue, I’ll attempt to connect Evolution to Exchange and 
also see how that goes (plus I’ll re-connect my CalDAV and CardDAV servers).

Thanks!

Nathan Parker
On Dec 15, 2021, 5:28 AM -0600, Milan Crha via evolution-list 
, wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 17:57 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the info! Is there a way to do an in-place update to
> > 3.42.2 using a DEB, or do I need to migrate to the Flatpak?
>
> Hi,
> I do not know. I do not use Ubuntu. What I know is that the Evolution
> depends on an evolution-data-server, which is used by multiple other
> components, thus updating Evolution means updating also other parts of
> the system. That's probably the main reason why the long term support
> distros hesitate to be up-to-date with the upstream Evolution (and I
> agree with that).
>
> Using the Flatpak will keep you on a safe side, it will not touch the
> system data, neither the on-the-host-installed Evolution itself, thus
> you can return back any time. The Flatpak is good for testing new
> versions too.
> Bye,
> Milan
>
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-15 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 17:57 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> Thanks for the info! Is there a way to do an in-place update to
> 3.42.2 using a DEB, or do I need to migrate to the Flatpak?

Hi,
I do not know. I do not use Ubuntu. What I know is that the Evolution
depends on an evolution-data-server, which is used by multiple other
components, thus updating Evolution means updating also other parts of
the system. That's probably the main reason why the long term support
distros hesitate to be up-to-date with the upstream Evolution (and I
agree with that).

Using the Flatpak will keep you on a safe side, it will not touch the
system data, neither the on-the-host-installed Evolution itself, thus
you can return back any time. The Flatpak is good for testing new
versions too.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-14 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
Thanks for the info! Is there a way to do an in-place update to 3.42.2 using a 
DEB, or do I need to migrate to the Flatpak?

I can try it on 3.42.2 and see if I receive the error message or if this 
resolves it. I downloaded the version here using apt-get on my distro.

I’ll also try that for Exchange.

Thanks!

Nathan Parker

On Dec 14, 2021, 2:15 AM -0600, Milan Crha via evolution-list 
, wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 18:49 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > The reported error was “Failed to append to Sent: Error appending
> > message: Server sent unexpected response: OK
> > Appending to local “Sent” folder instead.”.
>
> Hi,
> this is done by the IMAP, appending the message to the folder. When you
> run Evolution from a terminal as:
>
> CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution
>
> you'll see what it is trying to do and what had been returned back. I
> recall there had been some issues with COPY responses, but they had
> been related to certain servers and they had been for message transfer,
> which is not the case here.
>
> Yours 3.36.5 is ancient, the current stable version is 3.42.2. I
> suggest you try the same with the latest version. Maybe you can try the
> Flatpak version from the Flathub.org, which has its own limitations,
> but generally works. You can find it here:
>
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Evolution
>
> > Also, I need to connect an Exchange account to Evolution as well. EWS
> > support is installed, but I'm not sure where to look to add my
> > Exchange account.
>
> File->New->Mail Account->fill name and email address (eventually
> uncheck Lookup at the bottom, but you can try it)->Next->select Server
> Type: Exchange Web Services.
>
> Or create a Microsoft Exchange account in GNOME Online Accounts, unless
> you need OAuth2.
>
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-14 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 18:49 -0600, Nathan Parker via evolution-list
wrote:
> The reported error was “Failed to append to Sent: Error appending
> message: Server sent unexpected response: OK
> Appending to local “Sent” folder instead.”.

Hi,
this is done by the IMAP, appending the message to the folder. When you
run Evolution from a terminal as:

   CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution

you'll see what it is trying to do and what had been returned back. I
recall there had been some issues with COPY responses, but they had
been related to certain servers and they had been for message transfer,
which is not the case here.

Yours 3.36.5 is ancient, the current stable version is 3.42.2. I
suggest you try the same with the latest version. Maybe you can try the
Flatpak version from the Flathub.org, which has its own limitations,
but generally works. You can find it here:

   https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Evolution

> Also, I need to connect an Exchange account to Evolution as well. EWS
> support is installed, but I'm not sure where to look to add my
> Exchange account.

File->New->Mail Account->fill name and email address (eventually
uncheck Lookup at the bottom, but you can try it)->Next->select Server
Type: Exchange Web Services.

Or create a Microsoft Exchange account in GNOME Online Accounts, unless
you need OAuth2.

Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Error Message with Sent Mail on Evolution

2021-12-13 Thread Nathan Parker via evolution-list
I'm trying to send emails using Evolution 3.36.5 on Linux Mint Uma Cinnamon on 
a 2011 iMac.

My email provider is WebMate (connected over IMAP/SMTP).

The emails successfully send, but I receive this error message:
CODE: SELECT ALL

Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing.

The reported error was “Failed to append to Sent: Error appending message: 
Server sent unexpected response: OK
Appending to local “Sent” folder instead.”.
I reached out to WebMate, and they've never seen it before.

Has anyone else seen it, and if so, how do I resolve it?

When I login to WebMate webmail, a Sent folder shows, and any sent mail from 
WebMate webmail successfully goes to the Sent folder. It looks like I have 
successfully pointed Evolution to the folder as well, but I’m not 100% sure.

Also, I need to connect an Exchange account to Evolution as well. EWS support 
is installed, but I'm not sure where to look to add my Exchange account.

I can provide screenshots to this thread if need be: 
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=47=363068=2107106#p2107106

Thanks!

Nathan Parker
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