Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 156, Issue 61

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 21:16 -0400, C. Andrews Lavarre wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 12:00 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
> wrote:
> 
> > evolution-data-server can save its passwords in a password storage
> > backend accessed via freedesktop.org's Secret Service API.
> 
> Thank you. 
> 
> > What stops you from using that?
> 
> Not knowing about it. 
> 
> :-) Which is why I'm here...
> 
> Do you have any links handy? I can spend some time googling but
> an assist would be appreciated.

Please (PLEASE!) do NOT reply to digest messages. There is no
connection between this reply and the original thread it should be a
part of, making it difficult to trace the conversation and understand
what's going on.

Once again:

Digests are a creaking, outdated kludge that come from the days of UUCP
and dial-up modems. They have no place in a modern "always-on"
Internet, but for backward compatibility are still supported on some
lists, including this one. However that will only work if digest users
understand how to use them correctly. In particular, if you think you
NEED to use digests (you almost certainly don't), learn how to reply to
messages in a digest by right-clicking and selecting the Reply To
Digest option. This only works with MIME-formatted digests, but that
includes the Evolution list.

Note that just re-editing the Subject line and doing a normal Reply
doesn't work, as it still loses the header thread references.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 156, Issue 61

[C. Andrews Lavarre]

On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 12:00 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:

> evolution-data-server can save its passwords in a password storage
> backend accessed via freedesktop.org's Secret Service API.

Thank you. 

> What stops you from using that?

Not knowing about it. 

:-) Which is why I'm here...

Do you have any links handy? I can spend some time googling but
an assist would be appreciated.

Cheers, Andy
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 149, Issue 18

[Christophe-Marie Duquesne]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 1:00 PM,  <evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to automatically forward invitations?
>
>> Unfortunately, most of these invitations are also multipart, meaning
>> that this line appears, but only in one of the parts, which means that
>> "text/calendar" is not one of the actual headers of the message. So
>> when I search for this header using the free form syntax
>> 'header-contains:Content-Type=text/calendar', I do not get all the
>> messages I want to filter (close to zero matches).
>>
> Can you not add a condition of "body-contains" to catch everything?
>
> P.

It unfortunately does not work. Somehow, this kind of lines is not
considered part of the body by evolution.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 141, Issue 5

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 18:39 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 09:24 -0700, Graham Smith wrote:
> > I had gnone-unstable in my pacman.conf and it had pulled in
> > evolution-data-server 3.24.0+7+g4c598a652-1
> 
>  
> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:10 AM, 
> > wrote:
> > > Important: do NOT reply directly to this digest. If you wish to
> > > reply to a component message, use your mailer's facility for this.
> > > In Evolution: right-click and select from the pop-up menu, or use
> > > the drop-down menu at the top of each message if available.
> 
> No worries. Happy to hear that you found the reason! 
> 
> For future reference, could you please avoid top-posting and replying
> to digests? Thanks a lot in advance!
> 
> andre
> 

This is the first time I've seen a reply to a digest since our
discussion of the policy a few weeks back. The reply was not blocked by
my filter (unless another moderator let it through) so it looks like
that isn't a viable solution.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 141, Issue 5

[Andre Klapper]

On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 09:24 -0700, Graham Smith wrote:
> I had gnone-unstable in my pacman.conf and it had pulled in
> evolution-data-server 3.24.0+7+g4c598a652-1
 
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:10 AM, 
> wrote:
> > Important: do NOT reply directly to this digest. If you wish to
> > reply to a component message, use your mailer's facility for this.
> > In Evolution: right-click and select from the pop-up menu, or use
> > the drop-down menu at the top of each message if available.

No worries. Happy to hear that you found the reason! 

For future reference, could you please avoid top-posting and replying
to digests? Thanks a lot in advance!

andre

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 141, Issue 5

[Graham Smith]

Sorry for wasting people's time.

I had gnone-unstable in my pacman.conf and it had pulled in
evolution-data-server 3.24.0+7+g4c598a652-1





On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:10 AM,  wrote:

> Send evolution-list mailing list submissions to
> evolution-list@gnome.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of evolution-list digest..."
>
>
> Important: do NOT reply directly to this digest. If you wish to reply to a
> component message, use your mailer's facility for this. In Evolution:
> right-click and select from the pop-up menu, or use the drop-down menu at
> the top of each message if available.
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1.  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Graham Smith)
>2. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Andre Klapper)
>3. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Ralf Mardorf)
>4. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Ralf Mardorf)
>5. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Ralf Mardorf)
>6. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Graham Smith)
>7. Re:  evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
>   libcamel-1.2.so.59 (Andre Klapper)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 07:34:15 -0700
> From: Graham Smith 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: [Evolution] evolution: error while loading shared libraries:
> libcamel-1.2.so.59
> Message-ID:
>  com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I can not run evolution today.
>
> evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libcamel-1.2.so.59: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> ls -lh /usr/lib/libcamel*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   18 Apr  3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so ->
> libcamel-1.2.so.60
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   22 Apr  3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.60 ->
> libcamel-1.2.so.60.0.0
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.3M Apr  3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.60.0.0
>
> Running evolution-3.22.6-1 (on Arch Linux)
>
> I tried reinstalling evolution, but still the same issue.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> -- next part --
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL:  attachments/20170404/297f73e2/attachment.html>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:18:17 +0200
> From: Andre Klapper 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution: error while loading shared
> libraries: libcamel-1.2.so.59
> Message-ID: <1491319097.3799.6.ca...@gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 07:34 -0700, Graham Smith wrote:
> > I can not run evolution today.?
> >
> > evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libcamel-1.2.so.59:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > ls -lh /usr/lib/libcamel*
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root?? 18 Apr? 3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so ->
> libcamel-1.2.so.60
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root?? 22 Apr? 3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.60 ->
> libcamel-1.2.so.60.0.0
> > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.3M Apr? 3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.60.0.0
> >
> > Running evolution-3.22.6-1 (on Arch Linux)
> >
> > I tried reinstalling evolution, but still the same issue.?
>
> Which evolution-data-server (e-d-s) version are you running? libcamel*
> is provided by e-d-s so you may need to downgrade e-d-s?
>
> andre
> --
> Andre Klapper  |  ak...@gmx.net
> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:28:54 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution: error while loading shared
> libraries: libcamel-1.2.so.59
> Message-ID: <1491319734.29272.5.ca...@zoho.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 07:34 -0700, Graham Smith wrote:
> > I can not run evolution today.
> >
> > evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libcamel-1.2.so.59:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > ls -lh /usr/lib/libcamel*
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root?? 18 Apr? 3 14:29 /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so ->
> libcamel-1.2.so.60
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root?? 22 Apr? 3 14:29 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 13:31 -0400, George Reeke wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 17:15 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > However a quick perusal of the admin options tells me that it can be
> > turned off. I'll propose doing this in a separate thread so members can
> > give their views.
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Please do not turn digests off on all lists.  Although I do not use
> them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very
> useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would
> rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at
> random intervals.

I only have (some) control over the Evolution list.

Notwithstanding that, I don't understand your problem with not having
digests. Don't you filter list traffic into folders?

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[George Reeke]

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 17:15 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> However a quick perusal of the admin options tells me that it can be
> turned off. I'll propose doing this in a separate thread so members can
> give their views.
> 
> poc

Please do not turn digests off on all lists.  Although I do not use
them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very
useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would
rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at
random intervals.

George Reeke


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 11:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> If you absolutely must use digests, you can reply to an individual
> message by right-clicking within the message body.

Assuming the OP in addition didn't accidently changed the default "mime"
to "plain text" for digest mails ;).



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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 09:51 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
> But seriously, folks; on quite a few listservs over quite a few years, I
> have implored 
> "Digest" users to explain to me what advantages they feel it confers on
> them, and so far
> n0t a single one of them has ever come up with anything even remotely
> plausible, beyond
> the questionable ability to live in denial about how many email messages
> they're getting

This isn't a "listserv" as you call it. It's a mailing list managed by
the Mailman software, which unfortunately has digests as a basic
feature.

However a quick perusal of the admin options tells me that it can be
turned off. I'll propose doing this in a separate thread so members can
give their views.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Brewster Gillett]

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 10:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 10:15 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> > On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 11:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > Since you say you are new to mailing lists
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I thought the default for the list is to not use the digest, thus the
> > new subscribers receive messages separately, unless they change it for
> > whatever reason. I think I heard so several months ago, but I can be
> > wrong.
> 
> It is the default (if it wasn't we'd be having a lot more of these).
> The OP must have changed it.
> 
> poc


bg:

"Digest" should have been strangled in its crib. Its only discernible
trait is its ability to 
encourage clueless list behaviours, thereby annoying the clueful :-)

But seriously, folks; on quite a few listservs over quite a few years, I
have implored 
"Digest" users to explain to me what advantages they feel it confers on
them, and so far
n0t a single one of them has ever come up with anything even remotely
plausible, beyond
the questionable ability to live in denial about how many email messages
they're getting

Brewster
-- 
***
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 of excess tax receipts, the Treasury Building will explode and release
 its contents into the atmosphere, forming  an immense cloud of money...
 If the wind were to shift, the money could fall back to Earth, where 
 some of it could, conceivably, wind up -- this is referred to in 
 top-secret government documents as 'The Doomsday Scenario' -- back
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 10:15 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 11:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Since you say you are new to mailing lists
> 
>   Hi,
> I thought the default for the list is to not use the digest, thus the
> new subscribers receive messages separately, unless they change it for
> whatever reason. I think I heard so several months ago, but I can be
> wrong.

It is the default (if it wasn't we'd be having a lot more of these).
The OP must have changed it.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Milan Crha]

On Sat, 2017-03-11 at 11:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Since you say you are new to mailing lists

Hi,
I thought the default for the list is to not use the digest, thus the
new subscribers receive messages separately, unless they change it for
whatever reason. I think I heard so several months ago, but I can be
wrong.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 21:54 -0600, Jim Engle wrote:
>  When
> I replied to your message, I used evolution and reply to sender, however
> I changed the subject line, trying to follow the instructions that
> evolution-list includes at the beginning of each message.  This time I
> used 
> Ctrl+L and did not change the subject line.  I hope it works better for
> you, Milan.

I'm afraid it didn't, for several reasons. Since you say you are new to
mailing lists, allow me to explain a few things:

1) You replied to a digest. Never, *never* do this. Your reply included
the entire text of all the messages in the digest, even ones completely
unrelated to your thread. If you absolutely must use digests, you can
reply to an individual message by right-clicking within the message
body. However it's really much better just to avoid digests altogether,
 as they have no advantages in modern systems (they still exist as a
throwback to the days of modems and UUCP). Note that changing the
subject line is not the way to deal with this.

2) You top-posted your reply, i.e. your comments are in front of the
the material you are quoting. Although this is common practice in the
business world (due to the pernicious influence of Outlook), it's
generally frowned on in technical mailing lists including this one. You
should insert comments after the specific text you want to comment on.

3) In that same vein, don't quote a lot of stuff that you aren't
commenting on, i.e. be selective. There's no need to quote the entire
message you reply to (even without using digests). That's what the list
archive is for, and what threading exists to support.

Welcome to the list :-)

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6

[Jim Engle]

Milan and Andre:

Thanks for both responses to my post.  I have used evolution for many
years on various versions of Ubuntu, but am new to evolution-list.  I
just found the site when looking for a fix for the printing issue.  When
I replied to your message, I used evolution and reply to sender, however
I changed the subject line, trying to follow the instructions that
evolution-list includes at the beginning of each message.  This time I
used 
Ctrl+L and did not change the subject line.  I hope it works better for
you, Milan.

Before trying to run evolution through the terminal again, I opened
evolution the normal way from Ubuntu's dash and tried to print an HTML
message.  Evolution closed after I clicked print in the print dialog
box. 

Next, I ran evolution from terminal, which worked OK after I included
--ex r in the command.  Sorry about that.  Printing was successful for
both HTML and Plain Text and I could not make evolution crash.  I used
File Close to close evolution and the terminal indicated that it closed
normally.  

I then opened evolution from Ubuntu's dash and everything prints
normally.  I can not make the program crash when I print either HTML or
Plain Text.  I am at a loss to explain this result, yet evolution
appears to work OK.

Andre, you said that installing the corresponding debug packages is
welcome.  Do you suggest that I install additional packages?  If so,
please give or point me to specific instruction.  Do you still recommend
that I obtain a stacktrace?

Milan, following is the backtrace of all threads:


jim@jim-Nobilis:~$ gdb evolution --ex r --ex bt --ex "t a a bt" --ex q
GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1
Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu".
Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
.
Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at:
.
For help, type "help".
Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
Reading symbols from evolution...Reading symbols from 
/usr/lib/debug/.build-id/56/7b7c93c7b31b792abd81b27731b9f98a980e1a.debug...done.
done.
Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution 
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
[New Thread 0x7fffdff3b700 (LWP 6739)]
[New Thread 0x7fffdf73a700 (LWP 6740)]
[New Thread 0x7fffdcfff700 (LWP 6741)]
[New Thread 0x7fffc700 (LWP 6742)]

(evolution:6735): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS SQL database in 
sql:/etc/pki/nssdb: NSS error -8126
[New Thread 0x7fffc06f9700 (LWP 6743)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbe8b4700 (LWP 6746)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbe0b3700 (LWP 6747)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbd4a9700 (LWP 6748)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbcca8700 (LWP 6751)]
[New Thread 0x7fffb519a700 (LWP 6752)]
[New Thread 0x7fffb4999700 (LWP 6753)]
[Thread 0x7fffbe0b3700 (LWP 6747) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffb4999700 (LWP 6753) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffb519a700 (LWP 6752) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffbcca8700 (LWP 6751) exited]
[New Thread 0x7fffbcca8700 (LWP 6757)]
[New Thread 0x7fffb519a700 (LWP 6758)]
[New Thread 0x7fffb4999700 (LWP 6759)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbe0b3700 (LWP 6760)]
[Thread 0x7fffbe0b3700 (LWP 6760) exited]
[New Thread 0x7fffbe0b3700 (LWP 6761)]
[New Thread 0x7fff5fffd700 (LWP 6762)]
[New Thread 0x7fff5e83a700 (LWP 6766)]
[New Thread 0x7fff5e039700 (LWP 6767)]
[New Thread 0x7fff5d838700 (LWP 6768)]
java version "1.7.0_121"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.6.8) (7u121-2.6.8-1ubuntu0.14.04.3)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.121-b00, mixed mode)

(evolution:6735): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 1228 was not found when 
attempting to remove it

(evolution:6735): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 1249 was not found when 
attempting to remove it
[New Thread 0x7fff59dd5700 (LWP 6783)]
[New Thread 0x7fff595d4700 (LWP 6784)]
[New Thread 0x7fff58dd3700 (LWP 6785)]
[New Thread 0x7fff4bfff700 (LWP 6786)]
[Thread 0x7fffbe8b4700 (LWP 6746) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffc06f9700 (LWP 6743) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffbcca8700 (LWP 6757) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffbd4a9700 (LWP 6748) exited]
[Thread 0x7fffb4999700 (LWP 6759) exited]
[New Thread 0x7fffb4999700 (LWP 6787)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbd4a9700 (LWP 6788)]
[Thread 0x7fffb519a700 (LWP 6758) exited]
[New Thread 0x7fffb519a700 (LWP 6789)]
[New Thread 0x7fffbcca8700 (LWP 6790)]
[New Thread 0x7fffc06f9700 (LWP 6791)]
[New Thread 0x7fff4a87b700 (LWP 6792)]
[New Thread 0x7fff4a07a700 (LWP 6793)]
[New Thread 0x7fff49879700 (LWP 6794)]
[New Thread 0x7fff49078700 (LWP 6795)]
[New Thread 0x7fff48877700 (LWP 6796)]
[New Thread 0x7fff33fff700 (LWP 6797)]
[New Thread 0x7fff337fe700 (LWP 6798)]

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 135, Issue 12

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi,

IIRC in April Patrick made MIME the default for digest. Everybody who
subscribed after April and who chose digest, by default would receive
MIME digest. Everybody who subscribed before April by default would
receive plain text digest.

In April a mailing list reply to MIME digest issue was fixed by Milan.

https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=29f67b6 
evo master (3.21.1+)

https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=9d30267 
evo gnome-3-20 (3.20.2+)

Everybody receiving digest immediately should select MIME, as described
by http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html .

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 135, Issue 12

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-10-10 at 12:39 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
> The amusing part is, apparently about two minutes after you sen it, you
> rethought it and
> sent it right , launching a new thread.  :-)
> So perhaps congratulations are in order after all.

And you thought it worthwhile to point this out roughly 20 minutes
later, when it was clear that the OP had already realised his mistake?

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 135, Issue 12

[Graham]

Hi

I updated to evolution-3.22.1-1-x86_6 this morning and I could not type
in the reply window when I tried to reply to messages. 
I reverted back to evolution-3.22.0+18+g65ec324-1 and I can reply
without issue.

I'm running on Arch linux.


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  More authentication headaches (Pete Biggs)
   2. Re:  More authentication headaches (Rudolf K?nzli)
   3. Re:  More authentication headaches (Milan Crha)
   4. Re:  More authentication headaches (Milan Crha)
   5. Re:  More authentication headaches (Pete Biggs)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 23:44:28 +0100
From: Pete Biggs 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] More authentication headaches
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> > Did the fix in bugzilla work for you?
> 
> The latest version, i.e. evolution-data-server-3.20.5-
> 4.4.fc24.x86_64.rpm, on the Fedora build server (koji) is so far
> working perfectly, both for the Calendar and other authentication
> issues, and also for the "hang while sending" and other hangs. I've
> no
> idea how they are all related but they all started at the same time
> and
> now have all vanished, touch wood. I presume Milan will release it to
> stable fairly soon.
> 

OK, I've just installed it and it looks OK so far - at least for the
last 10 minutes or so!

P.


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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 08:17:56 +0200
From: Rudolf K?nzli 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] More authentication headaches
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On 10/10/16 00:44, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > Did the fix in bugzilla work for you?
> > 
> > The latest version, i.e. evolution-data-server-3.20.5-
> > 4.4.fc24.x86_64.rpm, on the Fedora build server (koji) is so far
> > working perfectly, both for the Calendar and other authentication
> > issues, and also for the "hang while sending" and other hangs. I've
> > no
> > idea how they are all related but they all started at the same time
> > and
> > now have all vanished, touch wood. I presume Milan will release it
> > to
> > stable fairly soon.
> > 
> 
> OK, I've just installed it and it looks OK so far - at least for the
> last 10 minutes or so!
> 
> P.

I still have the issues here. Evo 3.20.5
I'll wait further

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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:27:01 +0200
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On Sun, 2016-10-09 at 19:19 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I presume Milan will release it to stable fairly soon.

Hi,
that's correct. I made a Fedora 24 release few minutes ago:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/evolution-data-server-3.20.5-5.
fc24
It'll stay in updates-testing for some time. Please note it addresses
only Google accounts configured in the Evolution, not those configured
in GNOME Online Accounts. As there is no plan to do any further 3.20.x
releases, the patches are custom for the distributions. They can be
grabbed from the Fedora repository for anyone interested:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/evolution-data-server.git/tree/
?h=f24
It's about all those 4 (really split into four patches) mentioning
"caldav-goa-daily-limit-exceeded" in the file 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:27:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I guess the request for feature enhancement should be filed against
> > the composer and not against the mailing list actions plugin, right?
> 
> The composer perhaps wasn't the right choice, since the box doesn't
> appear in the editor, but when viewing a messages, so perhaps I should
> have chosen mailer or what ever option else is available by BZ.

*lol* 5 minutes after writing this mail, somebody removed "Composer" and
added "mailer".

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 11:33 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I've now modified the default digest option to MIME and edited the
> digest intro to reflect the various options for replying.

Hopefully other mailman based mailing lists will follow.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:27:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>I guess the request for feature enhancement should be filed against the
>composer and not against the mailing list actions plugin, right?

The composer perhaps wasn't the right choice, since the box doesn't
appear in the editor, but when viewing a messages, so perhaps I should
have chosen mailer or what ever option else is available by BZ.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 12:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 10:10 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > Can you file a BZ report please? Remember to quote the number here
> > in
> > case anyone wants to follow up.
> Somebody needs to follow up, since I won't do it, because I'm not a
> digest user.
> 
> I guess the request for feature enhancement should be filed against
> the
> composer and not against the mailing list actions plugin, right?

Thanks Ralf. I've now modified the default digest option to MIME and
edited the digest intro to reflect the various options for replying.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 10:10 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Can you file a BZ report please? Remember to quote the number here in
> case anyone wants to follow up.

Somebody needs to follow up, since I won't do it, because I'm not a
digest user.

I guess the request for feature enhancement should be filed against the
composer and not against the mailing list actions plugin, right?

"Bug 765202 - Group Reply/Reply to List for MIME digest

When using the selection box of an attached mail of a MIME digest,
there's no option to reply to the mailing list. The attached mails don't
provide a List-Id, but the header of the MIME digest does, so it should
be possible to care about both headers, the attached mail's header and
the digest's header, to provide this feature.

Patrick O'Callaghan noticed this for Evolution 3.18.5.2 (seemingly
Linux) and I noticed this using Evolution 3.20.1 (Linux).

Note, I'm not using digest myself, it was noticed when receiving
temporarily digest for testing purpose, during a discussion about
switching from plain text to MIME, as the default mode for digest.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-April/msg00117.html;
- https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765202


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-04-18 at 10:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 00:37:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > The other thing I notice is that the menu offers Reply to Sender
> > and
> > Reply to All, but not Reply to List, which is the preferred way to
> > reply to list messages. Not sure if that's a bug or a necessary
> > feature
> > due to some limitation in the way MIME digests are generated.
> Taking a look at the message source of a MIME digest, the attached
> messages are missing mailing list headers. However, the digest's own
> headers includes List-ID etc., so it should be possible to program
> Evolution to care about the attached mails headers in combination
> with
> the digest's headers.

Can you file a BZ report please? Remember to quote the number here in
case anyone wants to follow up.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 00:37:05 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>The other thing I notice is that the menu offers Reply to Sender and
>Reply to All, but not Reply to List, which is the preferred way to
>reply to list messages. Not sure if that's a bug or a necessary feature
>due to some limitation in the way MIME digests are generated.

Taking a look at the message source of a MIME digest, the attached
messages are missing mailing list headers. However, the digest's own
headers includes List-ID etc., so it should be possible to program
Evolution to care about the attached mails headers in combination with
the digest's headers.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2016-04-17 at 17:03 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Patrick, if you don't want to temporarily change the settings of your
> account, then consider to subscribe by two test accounts. By one
> account
> receive a plain text digest, by the other receive a MIME digest. It
> seems to be good, if you would "experience" the two digests modes
> yourself.

OK I did that and tried it with MIME mode. I see the interface has
changed since I last looked at digests, i.e. the reply now happens via
a drop-down menu as you already pointed out. I don't know when that
change happened. I can't be bothered testing the plain text version as
I have no reason to think it will work anyway. I'll change the default
mode for the list to MIME and hope that's the end of it.

The other thing I notice is that the menu offers Reply to Sender and
Reply to All, but not Reply to List, which is the preferred way to
reply to list messages. Not sure if that's a bug or a necessary feature
due to some limitation in the way MIME digests are generated.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

Patrick, if you don't want to temporarily change the settings of your
account, then consider to subscribe by two test accounts. By one account
receive a plain text digest, by the other receive a MIME digest. It
seems to be good, if you would "experience" the two digests modes
yourself.

;)
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2016-04-17 at 11:44 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> From what I can see in the image you appear to be looking in the wrong
> place. Don't select anything from the top-level menus. Simply point at
> the body of a digest message and right-click. You should get a pop-up
> menu of actions, one of which says something like Reply to Digest
> Message.

Hi,

to keep the screenshot as small as possible, I clicked in the left upper
corner of a digest's body. It shows the same menu, that appears, if I
click somewhere in the middle of a digest's body. There is no "Reply to
Digest" or similar menu entry available.

Anyway, the new screenshots are better.

plain_text.jpg shows the right click menu of a plain text digest, the
mouse pointer is included.

mime.jpg shows the selection box, you need to click, to reply to an
attached mail inside of a MIME digest. The mouse pointer is above this
selection box, but I did not click, so the menu isn't opened.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 17:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > Not sure what box you mean. The Reply to Digest action is on the
> > right- click menu when focused on the digest message. I'm using
> > 3.18.5.2 and don't have any digest messages to look at.
> > 
> > > 
> > > "If you wish to reply to a component message, use your mailer's
> > > facility for this. In Evolution: right-click and select from the
> > > pop-up menu."
> >  
> > The current text already says this. What are you proposing to
> > change?
> > Note that I don't have 3.20 so if there's something new I'll need
> > to
> > see it.
> If attachments make it through the list, then take a look at the
> attached low quality image.
> 
> On top of the image you see a MIME digest and in the upper left
> corner
> of an attached mail within the MIME digest, a box to select what to
> do,
> e.g. "Reply to All". Below this there's a plain text digest, with the
> menu that appears by a right click. There's no special digest option
> available.
> 
> The version of Evolution is 3.20.1.

From what I can see in the image you appear to be looking in the wrong
place. Don't select anything from the top-level menus. Simply point at
the body of a digest message and right-click. You should get a pop-up
menu of actions, one of which says something like Reply to Digest
Message.

It's unfortunate that this doesn't seem to be documented on the online
help page. I may file a BZ report so it doesn't get forgotten.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

> Not sure what box you mean. The Reply to Digest action is on the
> right- click menu when focused on the digest message. I'm using
> 3.18.5.2 and don't have any digest messages to look at.

> > "If you wish to reply to a component message, use your mailer's
> > facility for this. In Evolution: right-click and select from the
> > pop-up menu."
> 
> The current text already says this. What are you proposing to change?
> Note that I don't have 3.20 so if there's something new I'll need to
> see it.

If attachments make it through the list, then take a look at the
attached low quality image.

On top of the image you see a MIME digest and in the upper left corner
of an attached mail within the MIME digest, a box to select what to do,
e.g. "Reply to All". Below this there's a plain text digest, with the
menu that appears by a right click. There's no special digest option
available.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 06:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> My apologies, I'm still doing the digest experiment and didn't
> receive
> the latest mails, but read them in the archive.
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-April/msg00083.ht
> ml
> 
> > 
> > Don't worry Milan, I wasn't proposing to change the *default list
> > format* to digest, but to change the *default digest format* to
> > MIME
> > (currently it's plain text).
> > 
> > I'll wait a few days before doing anything in case there are
> > (reasoned) objections.
> > 
> > poc
> You do not need to wait. It's a good habit to ask and wait, but in
> this
> case stop doing. No, really no current MUA or web interface is unable
> to
> interpret MIME. Plain text digest simply is a PITA.

I agree but I'll wait a few days anyway. Emphasis on "few".

> > 
> > Not sure what box you mean. The Reply to Digest action is on the
> > right-click menu when focused on the digest message. I'm using
> > 3.18.5.2 and don't have any digest messages to look at.
> > 
> > poc
> I couldn't see this when I didn't receive a digest and can't see it
> now, while receiving _MIME_ digest.

I don't have a digest to check but I have definitely used this in the
past from the right-click pop-up menu.

> Consider to receive MIME digest for testing purpose, too. It might be
> useful to change the text
> 
> "If you wish to reply to a component message, use your mailer's
> facility for this. In Evolution: right-click and select from the pop-
> up menu."

The current text already says this. What are you proposing to change?
Note that I don't have 3.20 so if there's something new I'll need to
see it.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

My apologies, I'm still doing the digest experiment and didn't receive
the latest mails, but read them in the archive.

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-April/msg00083.html

> Don't worry Milan, I wasn't proposing to change the *default list
> format* to digest, but to change the *default digest format* to MIME
> (currently it's plain text).
> 
> I'll wait a few days before doing anything in case there are
> (reasoned) objections.
> 
> poc

You do not need to wait. It's a good habit to ask and wait, but in this
case stop doing. No, really no current MUA or web interface is unable to
interpret MIME. Plain text digest simply is a PITA.

> Not sure what box you mean. The Reply to Digest action is on the
> right-click menu when focused on the digest message. I'm using
> 3.18.5.2 and don't have any digest messages to look at.
> 
> poc

I couldn't see this when I didn't receive a digest and can't see it now,
while receiving _MIME_ digest.

Consider to receive MIME digest for testing purpose, too. It might be
useful to change the text

"If you wish to reply to a component message, use your mailer's facility
for this. In Evolution: right-click and select from the pop-up menu."

For testing purpose I now switched to "Plain Text" digest.


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 18:54 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:27 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > The user can set his own preferred format on the settings page,
> > however
> > the current default is indeed set to Plain Text. Thanks for
> > pointing
> > this out.
> > 
> > Unless anyone objects, I propose changing it to MIME.
>   Hi,
> once upon a time, there had been too many replies to the message
> digest
> on the evolution-list that it had been decided to change the default
> format to the non-digest one, thus new list subscribers will get what
> is preferred by default.
> 
> Unfortunately, I failed to find the thread about it here, and in the
> evolution-hackers.
> 
> That is, please do not change the default format to the digest, keep
> it
> as it is, which is supposed to send messages straight to the
> subscribers, not in bulk.

Don't worry Milan, I wasn't proposing to change the *default list
format* to digest, but to change the *default digest format* to MIME
(currently it's plain text).

I'll wait a few days before doing anything in case there are (reasoned)
objections.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Milan Crha]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:27 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The user can set his own preferred format on the settings page, however
> the current default is indeed set to Plain Text. Thanks for pointing
> this out.
> 
> Unless anyone objects, I propose changing it to MIME.

Hi,
once upon a time, there had been too many replies to the message digest
on the evolution-list that it had been decided to change the default
format to the non-digest one, thus new list subscribers will get what
is preferred by default.

Unfortunately, I failed to find the thread about it here, and in the
evolution-hackers.

That is, please do not change the default format to the digest, keep it
as it is, which is supposed to send messages straight to the
subscribers, not in bulk.
Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 07:51 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:27 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > However as I've said before, the justification for using Digest
> > mode on
> > lists has virtually disappeared. If at all possible people should
> > avoid
> > it. It belongs to the days of slow dial-up modems. I'm not saying
> > we
> > should eliminate it as there may be people who really do need it,
> > but
> > they are at most a very small minority.
> > 
> > poc
> 
> bg:
> 
> Thank you for that concise and penetrating observation, Patrick. I've
> saved it to my file
> of sig-quotes :-)
> 
> For those who might not be fully aware, Digest encourages three of
> the
> most obnoxious
> amongst clueless e-list behaviours;  top-posting,  failure to edit
> backquote, and failure
> to edit subject line to match the backquote's subject. Digest mode
> should have been strangled
> in its crib. I have asked many Digest users to supply a justification
> for their use, and when
> presented with the obvious counterarguments which *any* of those
> justifications are heir to, they 
> have no response beyond gaping like a gaffed grouper :-)

You forgot the most egregious one:

* Blindly replying to a digest without using the special MIME mode
breaks threading.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Brewster Gillett]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:27 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


> However as I've said before, the justification for using Digest mode on
> lists has virtually disappeared. If at all possible people should avoid
> it. It belongs to the days of slow dial-up modems. I'm not saying we
> should eliminate it as there may be people who really do need it, but
> they are at most a very small minority.
> 
> poc


bg:

Thank you for that concise and penetrating observation, Patrick. I've
saved it to my file
of sig-quotes :-)

For those who might not be fully aware, Digest encourages three of the
most obnoxious
amongst clueless e-list behaviours;  top-posting,  failure to edit
backquote, and failure
to edit subject line to match the backquote's subject. Digest mode
should have been strangled
in its crib. I have asked many Digest users to supply a justification
for their use, and when
presented with the obvious counterarguments which *any* of those
justifications are heir to, they 
have no response beyond gaping like a gaffed grouper :-)


Brewster

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 14:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Speaking about Evolution 3.20.1, in the right upper corner of an
> attached mail, there's a box to select to reply. Using the right menu
> it
> would not reply like above, it would reply with the subject
> "Re: evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 15"

Not sure what box you mean. The Reply to Digest action is on the right-
click menu when focused on the digest message. I'm using 3.18.5.2 and
don't have any digest messages to look at.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 11:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > 2) Never reply to list digests. If you want to reply to a message
> > within a digest, use the right-click menu in Evolution.
> Hi,
> 
> the default digest mode seems to be "Plain Text", at least this is
> what
> was checked by my account options.
> 
> AFAIK digest mode "MIME" is needed to keep subject and thread.

This is true.

> http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html
> 
> The Debian user mailing list by default is set to send MIME digest,
> IIRC
> they aren't using mailman and there's no way to get plain text
> digest,
> but all mailman mailing lists seem to default to plain text digest.

The user can set his own preferred format on the settings page, however
the current default is indeed set to Plain Text. Thanks for pointing
this out.

Unless anyone objects, I propose changing it to MIME.

However as I've said before, the justification for using Digest mode on
lists has virtually disappeared. If at all possible people should avoid
it. It belongs to the days of slow dial-up modems. I'm not saying we
should eliminate it as there may be people who really do need it, but
they are at most a very small minority.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 11:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 2) Never reply to list digests. If you want to reply to a message
> > within a digest, use the right-click menu in Evolution.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the default digest mode seems to be "Plain Text", at least this is
> what
> was checked by my account options.
> 
> AFAIK digest mode "MIME" is needed to keep subject and thread.
> 
> http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html
> 
> The Debian user mailing list by default is set to send MIME digest,
> IIRC
> they aren't using mailman and there's no way to get plain text digest,
> but all mailman mailing lists seem to default to plain text digest.

For testing purpose I use MIME digest, btw. I didn't fix the quoted
message above, to show you an issue, not with the digest, but with
Evolution, when quoting.

Speaking about Evolution 3.20.1, in the right upper corner of an
attached mail, there's a box to select to reply. Using the right menu it
would not reply like above, it would reply with the subject
"Re: evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 15"
                                           ^^
                                           ^^
And it wouldn't quote the mail, but this:

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 12:00 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:
> Send evolution-list mailing list submissions to
>   evolution-list@gnome.org
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>   https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of evolution-list digest..."
> Important: do NOT reply directly to this digest. If you wish to reply
> to a component message, use your mailer's facility for this. In
> Evolution: right-click and select from the pop-up menu.
> Today's Topics:
> 
>1. Re:  evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10 (Ralf Mardorf)

Excepted of the mailing list footer, nothing more.


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 11:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 2) Never reply to list digests. If you want to reply to a message
> within a digest, use the right-click menu in Evolution.

Hi,

the default digest mode seems to be "Plain Text", at least this is what
was checked by my account options.

AFAIK digest mode "MIME" is needed to keep subject and thread.

http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html

The Debian user mailing list by default is set to send MIME digest, IIRC
they aren't using mailman and there's no way to get plain text digest,
but all mailman mailing lists seem to default to plain text digest.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 19:33 -0430, Josegregorio Coffi wrote:
> file:///home/josecoffi/Escritorio/15-1_010.jpeg
> pasalo ha otras personas

Please:

1) Don't top-post.
2) Never reply to list digests. If you want to reply to a message
within a digest, use the right-click menu in Evolution.
3) Use English when posting to the list.

Thank you.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 10

[Josegregorio Coffi]

file:///home/josecoffi/Escritorio/15-1_010.jpeg
pasalo ha otras personas

2016-04-12 11:17 GMT-04:30, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
:
> Send evolution-list mailing list submissions to
>   evolution-list@gnome.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>   https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of evolution-list digest..."
>
>
> Important: do NOT reply directly to this digest. If you wish to reply to a
> component message, use your mailer's facility for this. In Evolution:
> right-click and select from the pop-up menu.
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re:  evolution 3.20.0 - ICS calendar - appointments are off
>   by two hours (Milan Crha)
>2.  evolution just after computer wakes up... (Michael Pearson)
>3. Re:  evolution 3.20.0 - ICS calendar - appointments are off
>   by two hours (Jay Strict)
>4. Re:  evolution just after computer wakes up...
>   (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>5. Re:  evolution just after computer wakes up... (Michael Pearson)
>6. Re:  evolution just after computer wakes up...
>   (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>7. Re:  evolution just after computer wakes up... (Michael Pearson)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:03:39 +0200
> From: Milan Crha 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution 3.20.0 - ICS calendar -
>   appointments are off by two hours
> Message-ID: <1460462619.2523.7.ca...@redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:28 +0200, Jay Strict wrote:
>> In the application evolution itself, the dates are displayed
>> correctly, however both in the top bar of gnome-shell and in gnome-
>> calendar, the same date is diplayed 2 hours off for all appointments
>> of this calendar.
>> For example, an appointment that starts at 8:15 is displayed to start
>> at 10:15. So I arrived two hours too late. :(
>>
>
>
>   Hi,
> it looks like a timezone issue. Maybe the calendar creates the events
> with a floating time, thus without a particular timezone. You can check
> that when you right-click an event in the Evolution's Calendar view and
> choose "Save as iCalendar...", then open the saved file in a text
> editor and search for lines which start with DTSTART or DTEND (if there
> are more of these, then the interesting are those between BEGIN:VEVENT
> and END:VEVENT lines). Feel free to paste them here. If they have a
> TZID parameter, or they end with a 'Z' (which denotes a UTC time), then
> I'd ask gnome-shell and/or gnome-calendar developers to look on the
> event itself, supposing you'll be able to give them a test event. You
> might also check your system timezone, whether it's properly stored and
> detected by the gnome-shell and gnome-calendar. You can check which
> timezone the Evolution found as being set in the system in
> Edit->Preferences->Calendar and Tasks part->General tab->Time section,
> the "Use system time zone" checkbox is followed by the timezone name as
> detected by the Evolution.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:45:47 +0100
> From: Michael Pearson 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: [Evolution] evolution just after computer wakes up...
> Message-ID: <1460468747.5251.5.camel@indicolts-HP-15-Notebook-PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> After I bring my computer out of hibernation, I can click on the send
> and receive button and it just hangs there forever (looking for
> messages?). I have to completely come out of evolution and then double
> click on it again to see if I have any mail. Any fixes for this???
>
> I am running Ubuntu 1404 and Evolution 3.10.4
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:26:38 +0200
> From: Jay Strict 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution 3.20.0 - ICS calendar -
>   appointments are off by two hours
> Message-ID: <570d059e.1060...@posteo.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> On 12.04.2016 14:03, Milan Crha wrote:
>> On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 11:28 +0200, Jay Strict wrote:
>>> In the application evolution itself, the dates are displayed
>>> correctly, however both in the top bar of gnome-shell and in gnome-
>>> calendar, the same date is diplayed 2 hours off for all appointments
>>> of this calendar.
>
>>
>> it looks like a timezone issue. Maybe the calendar creates the events
>> with a floating time, thus without a particular timezone. You can check
>> that when 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 8

[Andre Klapper]

Please remove unneeded full quotes in messages and avoid replying to
message digests (to keep the subject intact). Thank you a lot!

andre

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 8

[roman_calin]

 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:07:05 +0200
 From: no_inter...@fastmail.fm
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] endless password prompt
 Message-ID:
   1439298425.219459.353308281.17f5a...@webmail.messagingengine.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 This has been discussed earlier. It happened to me a couple of days ago
 again. Although this is not a solution, I think it is more a seahorse
 bug than an Evolution bug. Logging out and back into Gnome remedies the
 problem without any further password problems for me.
 
 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, at 01:54 PM, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 12:09 +0300, roman_ca...@mail.md wrote:
  Evolution keep asking for email account password from time to time,
  after entering correct password and checked ?remember in key ring?.
  it
  still asking for password with ?Password is incorrect? yellow text.
  Note: It is possible to send, but not to receive emails.

  Hi,
 I recall something similar being discussed around the 3.12.9 you have,
 but I do not recall any detail.

 What is the account type, please? Is it IMAP/POP3/...? It's important
 to know, to know where to guide further debugging.
  Bye,
  Milan
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 8

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2015-08-12 at 17:09 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 Please remove unneeded full quotes in messages and avoid replying to
 message digests (to keep the subject intact). Thank you a lot!

This has been said several times before, but for new members: if you
use digests you can reply to a specific message within a digest by
right-clicking and selecting the appropriate option. That way you
preserve the correct Subject line and message threading.

Please *never* just reply directly to a digest.

In fact it's hard to think of any circumstance in which the use of
digests is justified nowadays. They are a holdover from the days of
9600bps modems and UUCP. If you have an even half decent Internet
connection they are just an unnecessary complication.

poc

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[Bart]

Andre,

I've used evolution for quite a while now and feel I should contribute
something in return.

I have not done this before but feel I could, with just a little
prompting, be able to be effective.

Holidays are very seldom a problem for me.  I do very little traveling.

If you think I could be of use, please feel free to reply and we'll set
something up.

Bart
montana_evolution_u...@hardinmt.us

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 22

[Pete Biggs]

 
 Good. If you are make it for email Client for windows as well then it
 will be great.

It is highly unlikely that it will ever happen.

  More over I have downloaded older version of evolution 2.x that works
 for some extend. 

I would not advise you to use it.  It never worked properly, it is not
supported, it is out of date, and it gives Evolution a bad reputation
because it is so unstable.

 Anyway will wait for official announcement and release for windows
 clients

Don't hold your breath.

Evolution is a Gnome application, it runs on Linux not Windows. Nobody
is working on porting it to Windows.  If you want to run Evolution then
you will need to install some type of Linux.  If you can't do that, then
use Thunderbird or Outlook (or one of the many other mail clients).

P.


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 22

[Andre Klapper]

On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 12:24 +, Srinivasan, Rajini wrote:
 People would have spread wrong information that Evolution is supported
 for Windows clients/Exchange.

Well, that statement is partially correct as Evolution (which runs on
Linux/Unix systems) does support accessing Microsoft Exchange servers.

Cheers,
andre

PS: Please remove unneeded full quotes from your message and please
avoid reply to message digests instead of specific messages.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 22

[Srinivasan, Rajini]

Good. If you are make it for email Client for windows as well then it will be 
great. More over I have downloaded older version of evolution 2.x that works 
for some extend.

Anyway will wait for official announcement and release for windows clients

Regards
S. Rajini




On 24-Apr-2015, at 7:06 pm, Andre Klapper 
ak...@gmx.netmailto:ak...@gmx.net wrote:

On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 12:24 +, Srinivasan, Rajini wrote:
People would have spread wrong information that Evolution is supported
for Windows clients/Exchange.

Well, that statement is partially correct as Evolution (which runs on
Linux/Unix systems) does support accessing Microsoft Exchange servers.

Cheers,
andre

PS: Please remove unneeded full quotes from your message and please
avoid reply to message digests instead of specific messages.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 22

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 15:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 please avoid reply to message digests instead of specific messages.

The OP likely needs to edit the settings to MIME:
http://www.list.org/mailman-member/node28.html

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 117, Issue 22

[Srinivasan, Rajini]

Thanks mate.

People would have spread wrong information that Evolution is supported for 
Windows clients/Exchange.

Anyway if you have future plan, pls share. Thanks. 


S. Rajini 
 


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  FW: Evolution email client for Windows 7
  (Adam Tauno Williams)
   2. Re:  3.16.1 issues (on Arch) (Carl Schaefer)
   3. Re:  Evolution 3.85/Centos7/SSL does not work (Lee Moberg)
   4. Re:  Evolution 3.85/Centos7/SSL does not work (Pete Biggs)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:38:44 -0400
From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] FW: Evolution email client for Windows 7
Message-ID: 1429799924.2697.1.ca...@whitemice.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 07:06 +, Srinivasan, Rajini wrote:
 Team,
 I have tried with the below download link, but even after downloading 
 when I try to extract its getting erro saying the file is broken

It does not matter where you downloaded it from - it does not work.
There is not even remotely recent build of Evolution for Windows.

If you have something it is *ancient* and should not be used.

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:33:22 -0400
From: Carl Schaefer schae...@trilug.org
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] 3.16.1 issues (on Arch)
Message-ID: 1429806802.31808.1.ca...@trilug.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

  I added a second instance
  of the same Gmail account in Evolution, using the same preferences
  settings, and no problem is reported for the new instance.
 
 That would be weird. There will be some difference, being it probably
 with the connection type or the way the account was added (like
 whether at the end you checked to add also calendar sources or not -
 that creates different type of the account configuration, even those
 can be exposed similarly in the UI). Evolution uses .source files in
 ~/.config/evolution/sources which describe the account. There are
 multiple (three) files for each mail account. Maybe you can compare
 those raw files for differences.

the old instance has source files with this structure:

[Collection]
  [Mail Composition]
  [Mail Account]
  [Mail Transport]

the new instance has these source files:

[Mail Account]
  [Mail Composition]
  [Mail Transport]

the old instance Collection file had this section:

[Authentication]
Host=
Method=none
Port=0
RememberPassword=true
User=
ProxyUid=system-proxy
CredentialName=

which looked troublesome, so I tried deleting it and found that the
connection error on startup went away, and no new problems have
appeared.  Thank you for pointing me towards the sources directory.

Carl


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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:50:59 -0700
From: Lee Moberg mobe...@wavecable.com
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.85/Centos7/SSL does not work
Message-ID: 1429843859.3111.12.camel@localhost.localdomain
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Good question, I can't check now.  I removed Centos 7 and put Centos 6
back with the older version of Evolution that did not have the SSL
issue.  There are too many things in the version of Gnome on Centos 7 I
didn't like.  It would be fine for a server sitting in a rack someplace,
but as my personal workstation I'm not going to put up with it.  Feels
too much like Windows the way things got renamed, moved or removed,
tweaking the configuration was a pain (like icon and font sizes, by
default it reminded me of Windows in safe mode).  I'll give it a couple
of years to mature and try it again.



On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 11:57 +0200, Tom wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 10:33 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: 
  On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 09:26 -0700, Lee Moberg wrote:
   Error while Fetching mail from 'my ISP mail server'
   Could not connect to 'my ISP mail server':995:  SSL peer was not
   expecting a handshake message it received.
   
   

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 116, Issue 8

[Dennis Reichel]

The maxim not fixing what isn't broken, or it it works don't mess
with it is insufficient to inform open source design, implementation
and packaging decisions.  Linux is a uniquely dynamic thing, the end
user experience resulting from the graceful, or not, integration of
capabilities provided by dozens of independent development efforts. The
decisions made in this integration, which are made to address the needs
of a user-base, as well as the ideals of the integrator results in an
ever growing tree of Linux distributions, spins, and branches.

It is very often the case that for various Distributions, a given
package will be built with different options depending on what
capabilities the packagers deem both important and stable enough to
offer their users. This is also true with the packages themselves.  A
development team may target their development efforts at specific sorts
of applications, with other applications deprecated and not well
supported, and less so in the future. It is certain that change will
happen as other developers, then packagers, respond to all manner of
changes beyond their spheres of influence.  

Sometimes this change will be inconvenient to end users. It may be
possible for an end user to improve their situation by researching the
cause of problems they encounter, bringing their findings to the
attention of the developers, relaying developer comments to their
distribution packagers. (in the case of Ubuntu, which is downstream of
Debian, maybe it's necessary to contact Debian packagers)
Then in time and with good fortune a is incorporated into their package.
Another possibility is that another user has already resolved this issue
and built a package included in some public package repository. For the
end user: Building, installing and testing a package sufficiently that
it can be used in production may be a significant undertaking, and for
all but the most experienced, best done without using live email
accounts as the test data set. If it is not practical to introduce a
patched into the end user's package, another option would be to install
a minimal VM with some Linux release that performs as desired for the
subject package.

Change is ongoing and inevitable.  This essay intends entertain, comfort
and inform those who have occasion to regret certain manifestations of
change.

Best Regards, Dennis Reichel

On Sat, 2015-03-07 at 13:44 +, jug...@ekit.com wrote:
 I use Ubuntu as a tool, just like I used to use Win XP.  I've never
 got involved with compiling my own apps on Ubuntu.  I know that in
 theory this is straightforward but I would prefer to avoid having to
 do so, which is why I'm running an LTS edition.  I'm old enough to
 realise that, without taking the time to find out exactly what I'm
 doing, this would probably be a good way to trash my system.  
 
 There are other odd things going on with Evolution that I don't
 understand.  I tried deselecting Standard Plugins and the Bayesian
 Spam Filter options in Ubuntu Software Centre.  The mouse pointer
 turns to a timer while the changes are applied, but Edit/Plugins
 from the Evolution menu shows nothing has changed.  Making these
 changes and re-starting my system makes no difference either: the
 option boxes I cleared appear checked again in Ubuntu Software Centre,
 so something's  not right.
 
 I am at a loss to understand why Evolution - which has worked pretty
 much perfectly ever since I moved over to Ubuntu nearly a decade ago -
 should suddenly start falling over.  Has the age-old engineering maxim
 if it works, don't mess with it has been disregarded?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 116, Issue 8

[juggle]

I use Ubuntu as a tool, just like I used to use Win XP.  I've never
got involved with compiling my own apps on Ubuntu.  I know that in
theory this is straightforward but I would prefer to avoid having to
do so, which is why I'm running an LTS edition.  I'm old enough to
realise that, without taking the time to find out exactly what I'm
doing, this would probably be a good way to trash my system.  

There are other odd things going on with Evolution that I don't
understand.  I tried deselecting Standard Plugins and the Bayesian
Spam Filter options in Ubuntu Software Centre.  The mouse pointer
turns to a timer while the changes are applied, but Edit/Plugins
from the Evolution menu shows nothing has changed.  Making these
changes and re-starting my system makes no difference either: the
option boxes I cleared appear checked again in Ubuntu Software Centre,
so something's  not right.

I am at a loss to understand why Evolution - which has worked pretty
much perfectly ever since I moved over to Ubuntu nearly a decade ago -
should suddenly start falling over.  Has the age-old engineering maxim
if it works, don't mess with it has been disregarded?







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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 20

[Guy Stalnaker]

Patrick and Andre,

One might think, as an IT professional for 25 years, that I'd remember (!!) to 
add versions, etc. to posts like mine.

Debian Testing, Evolution 3.12.9, KDE desktop (not Gnome). This is an Office365 
account using EWS (not IMAP; EWS support is the reason I'm trying Evolution; 
Microsoft throttles IMAP with Office365 making it absolutely maddening to use). 
I check this Office365 account primarily with Microsoft OWA (which I use for 
Calendar only and not email if I can help it), HTCOneM8 smart phone using the 
HTC email client, a Samsung Tab3/8 using MailDroid.

The error that prompted my email to the list occurred in Evolution during the 
time I walked to the Union to grab a cup of coffee and I was not checking my 
mail with wither HTC or Samsung device, but I can figure the only way a message 
can become unavailable is if another client does something with it.

I will follow Patrick's suggestion about a corrupted local database.

Thanks.

On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 17:37 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org wrote:

Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:36:41 +
From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.vemailto:p...@usb.ve
To: evolution-list@gnome.orgmailto:evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Error while Unknown background operation.
Message-ID: 
1419010601.1637.49.ca...@usb.vemailto:1419010601.1637.49.ca...@usb.ve
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 16:40 +, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
 Cannot get message with message ID 48286: No such message available.

 This error has occurred every day I have used Evolution. I cannot remove it 
 except by restarting Evolution. Seems to be in some sort of loop. The Cancel 
 the current mail operation button on the button bar flickers and clicking it 
 does nothing. The Close button on the error message does nothing.

 I suspect this is related to the fact that I check my mail with multiple 
 clients. Is there some setting I can use to affect this behavior?

Is this an IMAP or a POP account? You might have a slightly corrupted
local database. Try shutting down Evo (evolution --force-shutdown) and
running:

cd ~/.cache/.evolution/mail/
for i in `find . -name folders.db`
do
echo Rebuilding Table $i
sqlite3 $i vacuum;
done

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 20

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 17:53 +, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
 The error that prompted my email to the list occurred in Evolution
 during the time I walked to the Union to grab a cup of coffee and I
 was not checking my mail with wither HTC or Samsung device, but I can
 figure the only way a message can become unavailable is if another
 client does something with it.

Your initial description says that the error persisted over several
days. That wouldn't normally be caused by reading the message from a
different MUA, especially as you restarted Evo in the meantime. I do
this all the time with no issues, and I tend to leave Evo running
permanently while logged in, which always.

 I will follow Patrick's suggestion about a corrupted local database.

Hope it works.

One more thing: please don't reply to list digests. If you must use
digests, you can reply to a specific message from the right-click menu
and thus preserve proper threading. Replying the way you did has broken
the thread (the same would be true even if you edited the Subject line
to be the same as the original message). I would in fact encourage you
to abandon digests; they are antequated technology that dates from the
days of UUCP and complicate mailers while providing no benefit for most
people.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 17

[Guy Stalnaker]

Thanks gentlemen. Bug is submitted. GDB shows an SEGFPE with the default daily 
view which occurs so quickly I cannot change to another view.

Guy



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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 17

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 18:03 +, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
 Thanks gentlemen. Bug is submitted. GDB shows an SEGFPE with the default 
 daily view which occurs so quickly I cannot change to another view.

Please don't reply to digests. You can reply to a specific message
within the digest and maintain correct threading by right-clicking and
selecting the appropriate option.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 17

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 18:03 +, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
 Thanks gentlemen. Bug is submitted. GDB shows an SEGFPE with the default 
 daily view which occurs so quickly I cannot change to another view.

Also, you didn't give the bug number.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 113, Issue 17

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 21:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 18:03 +, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
  Thanks gentlemen. Bug is submitted. GDB shows an SEGFPE with the
 default daily view which occurs so quickly I cannot change to another
 view. 
 Also, you didn't give the bug number.

I believe he created this one:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741667

Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception
#0  0x7fff731215cf in e_day_view_convert_position_in_main_canvas
(day_view=0x58299440, x=114, y=0, y@entry=617, 
day_return=0x7fffd5d0, row_return=0x7fffd5cc,
event_num_return=event_num_return@entry=0x7fffd5d4) at
e-day-view.c:8158
event_num = -10800
item_x = -10808
item_y = 32767
item_w = 0
item_h = 0
days_shown = 1
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 13

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, John Lauterbach wrote:


I need to transfer my Evolution 3.10.4 to another PC.  This is urgent
and cannot be ignored.


Well I can ignore it. :)

Make better plans next time.  Test your backups regularly.  If you
haven't recovered any of your backups lately, they might be worthless.


Every time I make the backup file and transfer to the other PC using
several different USB devices including high capacity ( 3 TG) backup
drives from Toshiba and WD Passport, I get Invalid Backup File when I
attempt to restore my data.  Archive size is 4.6 GB.


Why not try rsync?  You don't need to do the whole thing at once.  To
be frank I really don't think USB devices are especially well-suited
to backup purposes.  If it's so important, get a NAS devce or similar.

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73,
Ged.
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 13

[Zan Lynx]

On 09/08/2014 10:39 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote:
 To
 be frank I really don't think USB devices are especially well-suited
 to backup purposes.  If it's so important, get a NAS devce or similar. 

What do you back up your NAS device to? I use a 4 TB USB 3 external
drive. Two, actually. I rotate one to a safe deposit box.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6

[William W. Austin]

 [scroll lock],[scroll lock]

os setting:
port1auto-detect
port2auto-detect
port3auto-detect
port4auto-detect
gaming mode: off
mouse emulation: disabled
mouse port switching: disabled
button settings: mode2
kb language layout:
port1english
port2english
port3english
port4english--On 2014-09-03 08:00:03, evolution-list-
requ...@gnome.org wrote:
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 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
 than Re: Contents of evolution-list digest...
 
 
 Today's Topics:
 
1. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Ralf Mardorf)
2. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Patrick O'Callaghan)
4. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Pete Biggs)
5. Re:  [Bulk] Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Ralf Mardorf)
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:32:50 +0200
 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
 Message-ID: 1409743970.2283.3.ca...@rocketmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 09:37 -0400, Robert Seward wrote:
  I prefer POP with Evolution because it is more stable for me than
  IMAP.
  About half my accounts are POP and half are IMAP.
 
 +1 +1
 
 None of my accounts is IMAP anymore :p.
 
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:43:31 +0100
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
 Message-ID: 1409744611.2230.49.ca...@bree.home
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 04:34 -0600, Bart wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
  snip
   I suspect that 90% of the problems reported are with IMAP because
  90%
   of people use IMAP.
  
  I'm not so sure.  Most of the people I know use web mail.  They do
  everything through their browser.  Is that IMAP?  I want no part of
  that!
 
 I think Pete was talking about the problems reported on this list.
 People using webmail systems are not talking about them here because
 it
 wouldn't be appropriate (for the record, I also use Gmail for a lot 
 of
 casual mailing, but it's not good at managing mailing lists).
 
 [...]
 
  Why, why, why is everyone so intent on making me, and others like
 me,
  change a system we are perfectly happy with, to one you think is
  Better?
 
 We aren't. No-one is proposing to remove POP support from Evo. The
 question is how much effort the devels should put into it at the
 expense
 of other things such as fixing IMAP problems.
 
 poc
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:45:18 +0100
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
 Message-ID: 1409744718.2230.51.ca...@bree.home
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 13:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
   Why do people still use POP [...]?
  
  Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as
 receiving
  the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when 
 using
  POP. Once there are multiple copies of hundreds of emails in your
  private email archive, you can't get rid of those.
 
 And I've never experienced them with IMAP, so it would appear that
 your
 problem is either with the server side or with something in your Evo
 configuration.
 
 poc
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 4
 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:45:30 +0100
 From: Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
 Message-ID: 1409744730.17471.52.ca...@snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 13:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
   Why do people still use POP [...]?
  
  Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as
 receiving
  the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when 
 using
  POP. Once there are multiple copies of hundreds of emails in your
  private email archive, you can't get rid of those.
 
 POP was always much more prone to duplicating emails because of the
 way
 the message IDs are used in POP.  It's why all the dedup
 plugins/programs/protocols were created.
 
 I've never heard of a problem of IMAP duplicating emails and, knowing
 how the protocol works, I can't see how it can!  The view you see in
 your mailbox is what is 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6

[Andre Klapper]

On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 18:11 -0400, William W. Austin wrote:
 kb language layout:
 port1english
 port2english
 port3english
 port4english--On 2014-09-03 08:00:03, evolution-list-
 requ...@gnome.org wrote:

I have no idea what you specifically replied to, as you just full-quoted
an entire digest. Please set a proper subject line, please strip
unneeded quotes, and please reply below the quote that you refer to.
Please don't make me search or read for 10 minutes in order to provide
help. Thanks. :)

andre
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6

[Ángel González]

Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 18:11 -0400, William W. Austin wrote:
  kb language layout:
  port1english
  port2english
  port3english
  port4english--On 2014-09-03 08:00:03, evolution-list-
  requ...@gnome.org wrote:
 
 I have no idea what you specifically replied to, as you just full-quoted
 an entire digest. Please set a proper subject line, please strip
 unneeded quotes, and please reply below the quote that you refer to.
 Please don't make me search or read for 10 minutes in order to provide
 help. Thanks. :)
 
 andre

It doesn't seem related to any message on this list. If I had to guess,
he was asked for the keyboard layout on a different list, and clicked
reply on the wrong digest.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 20

[Richard Endres]

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren
Ich fordere Sie jetzt noch einmal  auf meine E-Mail Adresse aus Ihrem Verteiler 
zu löschen.
Da ich keine Nachrichten mehr von Ihnen erhalten möchte
mfg Endres
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 Subject: evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 20
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:16:29 +
 
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1. Re:  expunge individual messages from inbox (Adam Tauno Williams)
2. Re:  Keyring Password issues again!! (Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Re:  expunge individual messages from inbox (Patrick O'Callaghan)
4. Re:  expunge individual messages from inbox (j...@akalabs.net)
5.  Exchange Server 2008 (Tom Davies)
6. Re:  expunge individual messages from inbox (Patrick O'Callaghan)
7. Re:  expunge individual messages from inbox (j...@akalabs.net)
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:03:25 -0400
 From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
 Message-ID: 1376431405.2122.5.ca...@linux-22wg.site
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 17:18 -0400, j...@akalabs.net wrote:
  I'm using evolution for the first time and I'm confused about the work 
  flow. Looking at my inbox I want to hit something like ctrl-del to 
  immediately permanently delete (expunge?) 
 
 Expunge is Ctrl-E.
 
 Workflow is simple:
   (1) Delete messages
   (2) Expunge messages
 
 It is optional to show [or not] deleted messages.
 
  the selected message. For 
  other messages I want to hit just delete and have the message moved to 
  trash, which seems to work fine.
 
 Trash is really nothing but a move [and I never use Trash in any client,
 not in years - IMAP already provides a server-supported two-phase
 deletion workflow].  Trash is just fighting the workflow.  Honestly I'm
 not even sure how Trash works in Evolution.
 
 But if you want to move the message to another folder - why not just
 move the message to another folder.
 
 I believe some servers support move-to-folder as an overload of the
 expunge or delete operations, but that doesn't concern Evolution one way
 or the other.
 
 
 
 
   I cannot figure out the first part. Is 
  it possible to expunge individual messages without deleting them first?
 
 No, that doesn't make sense.
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:23:01 +0100
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Keyring Password issues again!!
 Message-ID: 1376432581.25782.1.camel@dusty
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 11:23 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  Is the Evo 3.8.2 too old or is it good enough to connect to a Windows 
  Exchange Server 2008?
 
 How is this related to the Subject line of the thread? When you want to
 introduce a new topic, compose a fresh message. Don't just reply to an
 existing one, i.e. don't hijack threads.
 
 poc
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:36:46 +0100
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
 Message-ID: 1376433406.25782.13.camel@dusty
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 18:03 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  Trash is really nothing but a move [and I never use Trash in any
  client,
  not in years - IMAP already provides a server-supported two-phase
  deletion workflow].  Trash is just fighting the workflow.  Honestly
  I'm
  not even sure how Trash works in Evolution.
 
 Evo is primarily an IMAP client so it tends to follow the IMAP model. In
 IMAP, a message is marked for deletion and at some later date the
 *folder* (not the message) is expunged. There *is no Trash folder*!
 Trash in Evo is a virtual folder, which simply shows a view of the
 messages marked as deleted in all the folders in the account.
 
 The advantage if this is that no copying of messages is necessary and
 undeletion is trivial - you just toggle the \Deleted flag. On most
 non-IMAP systems deletion involves copying the message to a real Trash
 folder, followed by expunging it from the original folder, so deletion
 can fail because the user has run out of quota, which is when he most
 wants to delete. And undeleting means doing it all 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 20

[Andre Klapper]

On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 09:21 +0200, Richard Endres wrote:
 Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren
 Ich fordere Sie jetzt noch einmal  auf meine E-Mail Adresse aus Ihrem 
 Verteiler zu löschen.
 Da ich keine Nachrichten mehr von Ihnen erhalten möchte
 mfg Endres

If you read the bottom of every email you would see this:

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 7

[Richard Endres]

Ladies and Gentlemen
I have now tried several times to terminate your emails, unfortunately without 
success.
Now I want to ask you again to send me any more messages. There are just way.
Nochmanl my e-mail address richard_end...@msn.com
As of now, I would get nothing more

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 Subject: evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 7
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 22:41:15 +
 
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1. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder (AlR)
2. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder
   (Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder
   (Adam Tauno Williams)
4. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder
   (Adam Tauno Williams)
5. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder
   (Adam Tauno Williams)
6. Re:  IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution folder
   (Adam Tauno Williams)
7. Re:  Minor annoyance with scroll wheel (Adam Tauno Williams)
8. Re:  Minor annoyance with scroll wheel (Patrick O'Callaghan)
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:59:11 +0800
 From: AlR alp...@gmail.com
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution
   folder
 Message-ID:
   CA+vzZT6mbtqUynesfXg4qarXexfm-R4M4uN6jUjBaLyxv5=u...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote:
 
 
  I see this week's discussion about top posting has been thoroughly read
  and acted on ...
 
 
 Sorry about that. Forgot that gmail is including the original message.
 
 You just need to copy them within Evolution from one mail store to
  another.
 
 
 For my testing I copied ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local to another
 directory and point my IMAP to that and the IMAP server can read it well.
 
 My problem is that I have lots of filters in my Evolution that moved mails
 to different sub-folders.  So does that mean I have to re-create them in
 procmail?
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 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 20:34:11 +0100
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution
   folder
 Message-ID: 1375644851.1547.11.camel@dusty
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Sun, 2013-08-04 at 23:59 +0800, AlR wrote:
  My problem is that I have lots of filters in my Evolution that moved
  mails
  to different sub-folders.  So does that mean I have to re-create them
  in
  procmail?
 
 I don't understand. Why can't you just keep them in Evo? You will
 presumably need to change the target folder names to the new ones,
 that's all. Procmail doesn't enter into it (unless you're already using
 it of course, but note that it's been unsupported for many years).
 
 poc
 
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:08:36 -0400
 From: Adam  Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP mail location pointing to the evolution
   folder
 Message-ID: 1375650516.4912.4.ca...@workstation.wmmi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:54 +0800, RICAFORT ALFREDO wrote:
  I wanted to access my emails in Evolution.  My 'Receiving Email'
  setting is '...folders manage by Evolution'. As I know this means that
  my emails are stored in Maildir format.
 
 You know that?  Because, it depends.
 
  Now I wanted to access these emails
  through IMAP, in particular using dovecot. 
 
 Setup a Dovecot server, create an account on the server, setup an IMAP
 account in Evolution, and then you can just drag-n-drop them to the
 server account.  Access them from there from then on.
 
  Would there be a problem if I just point my
  'mail_location=~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local'? I don't plan to
  send or delete emails through IMAP. I just need to read them.
 
 It might work I suppose.  *If* your *version* of Evolution and your
 *version* of Dovecot agree *exactly* on the mail format.  Note that you
 will still have concurrency issues as reading messages 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 7

[Andre Klapper]

Hi Richard,

On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 10:03 +0200, Richard Endres wrote:
 I have now tried several times to terminate your emails, unfortunately
 without success.

As quoted by you,

  To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
  https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
  or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
  evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5

[Luis Filipe Costa Caldeira]

On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:17 +, Luis Filipe Costa Caldeira wrote:


 I have successfully configured Evolution-ews package with an Exchange
 2013 account. I can see my calendar and e-mail, but contacts say that
 I've got no permission to access it.
 Is contact viewing supported in that package?

   Hi,
yes, it is. Do you get this error on a Contacts book, or on Global
Address List book? If the later, did you Fetch URL when in account
Properties? If so, does the OAB URL end with /oab.xml? And on
Receiving Options, can you Fetch List for your Global Address List?
What _exact_ value does it show in Select address list: combo?
   Bye,
   Milan




Hello,

I get this error on Contacts Book and on Global Address List book.
I am for now, concerned with Contacts Book that have a SID 
{06967759-274D-40B2-A3EB-D7F9E73727D7} and does not have permissions to write
in my contacts.
In the Global Address List problem, I did Fetch  URL in account properties 
and ends with oab.xml.
On Receiving Options I can Fetch List for my Global Address List and the 
value is Default Global Address List.







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– Serviços Tecnológicos

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  folders (IMAP account) (Milan Crha)
   3. Re:  Evolution EWS (Milan Crha)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 09:17:55 +
From: Luis Filipe Costa Caldeira 
luis.calde...@ul.ptmailto:luis.calde...@ul.pt
To: evolution-list@gnome.orgmailto:evolution-list@gnome.org 
evolution-list@gnome.orgmailto:evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution] Evolution EWS
Message-ID: 1372756644.24107.3.camel@sp-pc056
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hello,

I have successfully configured Evolution-ews package with an Exchange 2013 
account. I can see my calendar and e-mail, but contacts say that I've got no 
permission to access it.
Is contact viewing supported in that package?

Evolution 3.6.4
evolution-ews 3.6.1-0ubuntu1
Ubuntu 13.04


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Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 11:40:32 +0200
From: Milan Crha mc...@redhat.commailto:mc...@redhat.com
To: evolution-list@gnome.orgmailto:evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution does not download all messages
stored in folders (IMAP account)
Message-ID: 1372758032.2750.17.camel@localhost
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 21:20 +0200, Pascal Hasko Bernhard wrote:
 I realized the Evolution (3.4.6) does actually not download all messages

Hi,
I suppose it's a typo, your version might be 3.6.4 instead?

 I have set:
 - look for messages in all folders (yesterday I also checked the box
 look for messages in subscribed folders
 - automatically synchronize remote mail locally

The option in respective folder Properties (mentioned in other mail in
this thread) is used as an addition to the above account-global
automatically 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tuesday, 2 July 2013, Luis Filipe Costa Caldeira wrote:
...

Please don't reply directly to digests. You just copied an entire issue
of the list digest to the entire list all over again, and of course it will
be included in the next digest as well. Plus the Subject line is unrelated
to any topic you might be commenting on.

You can reply to one message within a digest by right-clicking in Evo and
selecting from the pop-up menu. This keeps the correct Subject and
threading.

A better solution is just not to use digests. For most scenarios they
really don't make sense nowadays.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 94, Issue 44

[Vidar Evenrud Seeberg]

Den 05/29/2013 02:00 PM, skrev evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org:

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:35:40 +0200
From: Vidar Evenrud Seeberg w...@infosikring.no
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Time drifting using Android - Exchange 2010 -
Evolution
Message-ID: 1369823740.5115.16.camel@vesjobb
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 09:48 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:



Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 09:06:06 +0200
From: Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Time drifting using Android - Exchange 2010 -
 Evolution
Message-ID: 1369811166.10214.8.camel@esp-patben-lin.espdx1.local
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Post looks great. Check differences between OS and BIOS time
set on
each machine, including phone, however last one may not be trivial.
 I do not know Evolution code handles setting appointment
incoming from
different sources, but I imagine some parts of code may check OS time,
wile others can check BIOS time. This would explain time difference
from
UTC.

I will check this evening. However, one post says Evolution uses System
time and not BIOS time. Don't know how to find BIOS time for the phone,
but I will google a bit for it
BIOS time on my PC was set at UTC (+/-0), however setting it to local 
time changed nothing. I entered an appointment at 20:00 on my phone, 
initiated sync to Exchange and opened Evolution. Still two hours drift, 
shows in Evolution at 18:00. Displays correctly in OWA. I have not found 
a way to check BIOS time on my phone

Please help anybody. This is really a showstopper for me using Evolution

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:15:47 +0100
From: Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Time drifting using Android - Exchange 2010 -
 Evolution
Message-ID: 1369818947.27815.4.ca...@snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-7



When you say it drifts do you mean it's exactly 2 hours off, or

that

it varies by up to 2 hours?

It is always off by two hours (which is the offset from timezone

0.)

Do all the various components agree on the timezone and the

current

time? I.e. if the Windows machine says it's 10am, does the Linux

machine

also say it's 10am? How about the phone?

poc

The timezone and the time is set equally on both PCs and phone

What about the exchange server?  Do you have any access to that to see
what timezone it is set to?

Our Exchange server is 2010 and the timezone for the server is UTC+1 +
summertime, which altogether should be summarized to my computers' and
my phone's +2 timezone


Original post (not sure if I should attach this, but doing it for
including all relevant information):

No, don't include the original - if you reply to a message to the
list,
use Ctrl-L (to reply to the list), that will set all the threading
parameters properly so your message will appear in context with all
the
others so there is no need to include the original message.  In fact
good list ? email etiquette is to remove any parts of the message that
aren't necessary to the answers you are giving.

P.


Trying to do it right this time... :)



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:21:45 +0100
From: Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Time drifting using Android - Exchange 2010 -
 Evolution
Message-ID: 1369819305.27815.8.ca...@snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-7



   Post looks great. Check differences between OS and BIOS time

set on

each machine, including phone, however last one may not be trivial.
   I do not know Evolution code handles setting appointment

incoming from

different sources, but I imagine some parts of code may check OS

time,

wile others can check BIOS time. This would explain time difference

from

UTC.

It's unlikely that Evolution (or anything else in user land) will look
at the BIOS time - the standard time is the system time and that is
(very) easily accessed through standard system calls.

P.

Could there be Evolution looking at other time information than phone,
OWA and Outlook looks at? (Not sure what I am asking about, but could it
be more than one time/date field living in Exchange 2010 server, where
OWA, Outlook and phone looks at one field while Evolution looks at
another)?




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:58 +0100
From: Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Time drifting using Android - Exchange 2010 -
 Evolution
Message-ID: 1369820878.27815.19.ca...@snoopy.chem.ox.ac.uk
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-7



When 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 38

[Jerry LeVan]

On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 16:55 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:28:59 +0200
 From: Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Contacts acting wonky...
 Message-ID: 1340296139.4294.2.ca...@embrace.foo
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 10:32 -0400, Jerry LeVan wrote:
  hi, I am running evo 3.4.2 in a (new)Fedora 17 box and I am running
 the
  same version in another Fedora 17 box.
  
  I exported the settings from the old box
 
 How exactly? Which version did the old box have?
As noted above, I am running the same version of Evo on both
of the machines.

I choose Backup Evolution Data from the file menu on the old machine.
I transferred the resulting file and when I started Evo on the new
machine I choose to import the exported data file.
 
   and when I imported the
  settings into the new box the mail and calendar stuff was fine but
  the contacts are missing.
  
  Am I holding it wrong?  How can I get the contacts onto the new box.
 
 andre
 
 
 

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 38

[Pete Biggs]

Please don't reply to Digest messages - doing so breaks all the
threading information and puts on a totally unrelated subject.

I suppose you did trim of all the other messages, which is a good thing!

P.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 7

[Dan Saint-Andre]

On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 12:00 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:

 --
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 16:43:03 +0300
 From:  ? ad...@arka.ua
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Evolution] Need Help with evolution auto subject
 Message-ID: 1174257850.20120605164...@arka.ua
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hello
 
 Our company uses e-mail client Evolution 2.28
 operating system SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11.4
 We send a many correspondence with our clients and are mostly attached
 to the message files.
 
 How do I make when creating a new message from the context menu shell
 Gnome (Nautilus), (right-click on the file - Send)
 are automatically filled with the Subject,
 and it substituted the name of an attachment?
 
 Best regards
 
 Roman Shevchenko mailto:ad...@arka.ua
 
 
 
 --
 


I too want to accomplish some automatic things when I compose messages.
The automation details depend on the addressee and the message template.
I think this is the realm of an EVO plug-in or add-in or ... but I don't
know.

Years ago, the other software from Redmond, had features where the
template
would run associated programming, present a dialog box, ask questions,
and do whatever processing, create the message to be sent with all sorts
of
pre-population and formatting, and then drop the end-user into the
compose
window surrounded by the generated boiler plate.

Anything like this for evo?  anywhere?
~~~ 0;-Dan
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 75, Issue 10

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Please do not reply to list digests. Doing so has three bad
side-effects, two of which are fixable and one not:

1) (Fixable): Most people don't bother trimming the reply properly so we
end up with an entire digest being resent to the list (where of course
it will be included again in the next digest ...). You didn't do that,
but a lot of others do.

2) (Fixable): the Subject line has nothing to do with the topic, but is
just a random digest title. Can be fixed by editing while composing the
reply, but you didn't do this.

3) (Not fixable): breaks threading. You reply to a digest and restrict
the quote to a specific topic. You even edit the Subject line. However
standard threading doesn't use the Subject line but requires the use of
certain headers which will not now be present. IOW your reply will not
be threaded with the message you are really replying to, and of course
neither will any replies to your reply. The thread is now broken.

If you only receive the digest version of the list, you can reply to the
specific message, and retain the correct Subject line, using Reply To
Digest Message (or whatever it's called -- I haven't used digests in
many years and it's only offered when looking at a digest).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 75, Issue 10

[Arthur Machlas]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:00 AM,  evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org wrote:
 Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2011, 18:55 -0500 schrieb Arthur Machlas:
 hi, using evolution 3.2 on fedora 16 beta. on f15 with evolution 3.0 i
 had a virtual folder called combined inbox that had an either or
 matching message location to one of my two personal imap accounts. so
 it was something like:
 rule name: combined inbox
 match if any of the conditions below is true
 message location = personal imap inbox 1
 message location = personal imap inbox 2

 unfortunately, this no longer works in evo 3.2. I saw on the mailing
 list that removing and re-adding source folders sometimes works, and
 i've played with that a fair bit now. first adding my two imap inboxes
 and source folders, then choosing all remote and local, then all
 local, etc. etc.

 also, changing the thread options has no effect either.

 i can create a test folder that matches if an email was sent to me and
 that works fine. advice and tips appreciated.
SNIP

 It sounds like I have a few options:

 1) Create a label called inbox, and tag incoming mail with that tag.
 problem: if I forward it then delete the original it will still show
 up. or if I delete it from my android phone it will still show up with
 a tag of inbox, even though it's in the delete folder, because all
 downloaded mail gets tagged with ibox.

 2) create a filter that copies all email locally to an inbox. problem:
 changes made to that folder won't make their way back to the server
 and to my phone.

 3) deal with two inboxes.

 4) ??

 5) Profit.

 Cheers,
 AM

 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:16:19 +0200
 From: Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com

        Hi,
 I can reproduce it too. It would be good to have it filled as a bug
 report in Gnome's bugzilla. As a workaround, I suggest to use this:
   Match All as a condition
 and then populate
   [o] Specify folders
 with each Inbox folder you are interested in. It works for me, though
 when editing the previous search folder evolution got a bit crazy about
 it, thus it forced me to do an evolution restart. After it the folder
 seems correct.
        Hope that helps,
        Milan

Hi Milan, great workaround! Thanks very much. I'll create a bug report
this weekend, but even if it's never fixed you won't get a complaint
out of me. Your method gives me exactly what I was trying to achieve.
Thanks again.

AM
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35

[Bharath C J]

Hi,

I am on Evolution 2.32.2, Ubuntu - POP mail box, everything stored on
my local machine. I have more than 100K mails of the last 8 years
stored and need to extract attachments (need not necessarily remove)
from the mails.

Bharath

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   1. Re:  Attachment Extraction (Adam Tauno Williams)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:52:14 -0400
 From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Attachment Extraction
 Message-ID: 1317203535.9558.0.ca...@linux-yu4c.site
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 11:29 +0530, Bharath C J wrote:
 Hi guys,
 I need hep seriously. I have lot of attachments in my mail and I need
 to extract all of them and save it in a folder.

 What type of mailbox is this?



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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

[Pete Biggs]

On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 17:17 -0600, Bart wrote:
 (Intentional Top-Post)
 
 unsubscribe?  unsubscribe?  This is a joke, right?
 
 Let's see...  9 lines down  Only nine!
 

It's either someone trying to wind everyone up or someone vastly stupid
- I know what my money's on.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 23:19 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 VCARDS import well ... but there's usually one vcard file per contact
 and Evolution imports from a single file at a time.  That's a lot of
 work for an address book of hundred people++.  I suspect Evolution
 expects values/headers in a specific order.  Details of Such
 specification or requirement will be of interest.  Then I could create a
 python script to reorder the CSV values accordingly.

Hi,
what is your evolution version, please? Mine has -i or --import to
invoke import from command line for a given uri. I think it's there
since 2.32.0 (mine is 3.0.0). You will be provided with a preview of the
content to be imported, so you can easily see how are file columns
mapped into vCard properties when you change cvs format type.

With respect of multi-contact import, The easiest is to join multiple
cvs/ldif files into one and import it, then invoking the same command
for multiple times.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 14:46 -0700, Richard tum Suden wrote:
 unsubscribe

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quote of the entire digest is even more wrong.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

[Richard tum Suden]

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Subject: evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 3:03 PM

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  A Digression on Digests (Matthew Barnes)
   2. Re:  A Digression on Digests (Patrick O'Callaghan)
   3. Re:  A Digression on Digests (Patrick O'Callaghan)
   4. Re:  A Digression on Digests (brad)
   5. Re:  A Digression on Digests (Pete Biggs)
   6. Re:  A Digression on Digests (Adam Tauno Williams)
   7.  evolution free busy alignment... (Aravind Hampiholi)


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Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:38:16 -0400
From: Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] A Digression on Digests
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On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:18 +1000, Peter Cave wrote: 
 I hope I am complying this time - am really unfamiliar with lists.

That's awesome.  You quoted an entire digest message to reply to a
thread about why digest messages are obsolete and evil and how we can
prevent users from directly replying to them.

I hope you're seeing the irony.



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Subject: Re: [Evolution] A Digression on Digests
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On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 09:38 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:18 +1000, Peter Cave wrote: 
  I hope I am complying this time - am really unfamiliar with lists.
 
 That's awesome.  You quoted an entire digest message to reply to a
 thread about why digest messages are obsolete and evil and how we can
 prevent users from directly replying to them.
 
 I hope you're seeing the irony.

+1

Words fail me ...

poc



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Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 09:40:00 -0430
From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] A Digression on Digests
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On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 20:18 +1000, Peter Cave wrote:

[Entire redundant quote of digest deleted]

 I hope I am complying this time - am really unfamiliar with lists.

You're not, see below.

[...]

 Intuitively my intention would be (as in this message) to reply to the
 list but change the Subject heading to the desired message subject
 heading.

You don't appear to have understood my original post. This doesn't work.
As has been said countless times on this list (though as a newbie you
may not have seen it), threading *does not depend on the Subject*.
Standard threading uses header information to relate replies to the
messages they reply to. Changing the Subject makes absolutely no
difference.

 Whether this does what is required I do not know - and not knowing how
 such replies are handled is one of the reasons I have always responded
 at the top of the digest and usually delete everything below so as not
 to send and resend bloated messages.

You are confusing top-posting with quote trimming. Don't top-post. Do
trim quoted material to what you are actually responding to.

 Maybe this is a Down Under thing but most responses (95%) I would get
 to emails in this part of the world are nearly always at the top of the
 previous message as most people cant be bothered scrolling down through
 the old stuff to find a response or the email has been suitably culled
 to get rid of the unnecessary excess.

Nothing to do with Down Under. Corporate email is fixated on top-posting
as a way to record the entire history of a conversation (since no
trimming is done either). This is reinforced by email clients such as
Outlook and now many of the webmail systems including Gmail. In fact if
you use a BlackBerry it's so ingrained as to be almost impossible to
avoid (yet another reason that BBs are severely broken IMHO).

However in Internet *mailing lists* we have a different tradition, much
of it drawn from the Usenet system which was once the principal medium
for this kind of discussion. Remember that both mailing lists and Usenet
have eternal archives of everything anyone has ever said, 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4

[Onyeibo Oku]

 From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org

 On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 14:15 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
  Why is Evolution finding it hard to import my .ldif or .csv files in
 one
  piece?  I had the fields for those files sorted out in Thunderbird
 and
  Evolution still drops the name fields.  
 
 name fields?
 
 You mean FN, N, or NICKNAME ?  I don't see how the import can work at
 all if FN is dropped since FN is a required attribute of a vCard.
 What is are example FN  N values?

This is the header row of the .CSV file:
First Name,Last Name,Middle Name,Name,Nickname,E-mail
Address,Home Street,Home City,Home Postal Code,Home State,Home
Country/Region,Home Phone,Home Fax,Mobile Phone,Personal Web
Page,Business Street,Business City,Business Postal Code,Business
State,Business Country/Region,Business Phone,Business
Fax,Pager,Company,Job Title,Department,Office
Location,Notes


 Possibly modifying the values to have an X-EVOLUTION-FILE-AS attribute
 would be helpful.

VCARDS import well ... but there's usually one vcard file per contact
and Evolution imports from a single file at a time.  That's a lot of
work for an address book of hundred people++.  I suspect Evolution
expects values/headers in a specific order.  Details of Such
specification or requirement will be of interest.  Then I could create a
python script to reorder the CSV values accordingly.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 69, Issue 3

[Bart]

(Intentional Top-Post)

unsubscribe?  unsubscribe?  This is a joke, right?

Let's see...  9 lines down  Only nine!



On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 14:46 -0700, Richard tum Suden wrote:
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 39

[Ronald Kabelich]

Hi there, 

yes, great. That's what I wanted. Thank you very much. 

Best Regards
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Am Donnerstag, den 24.03.2011, 18:01 + schrieb
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 Send evolution-list mailing list submissions to
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 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
 than Re: Contents of evolution-list digest...
 
 
 Today's Topics:
 
1. Re:  view folders including unread messages at a glance
   (Adam Tauno Williams)
2. Re:  view folders including unread messages at a glance (Bart)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:27:08 -0400
 From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] view folders including unread messages at a
   glance
 Message-ID: 1300987628.7411.3.ca...@linux-yu4c.site
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 13:51 +0100, Ronald Kabelich wrote:
  in Thunderbird it's possible to view all folders with unread messages at
  a glance. Please have a look at the attachment. 
  Is there a proposal to implement it? 
 
 Edit - Search Folders - Add - Check All local and active remote
 folders - Condition: Match all.  Click Ok.  Select the new search
 folder and set Show to Unread Messages.  
 
 There are all unread messages in all folders.
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:51:24 -0600
 From: Bart montana_evolution_u...@hardinmt.us
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] view folders including unread messages at a
   glance
 Message-ID: 1300989084.7292.14.ca...@suse113.site
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 13:51 +0100, Ronald Kabelich wrote:
  Hello,
  
  in Thunderbird it's possible to view all folders with unread messages at
  a glance. Please have a look at the attachment. 
  Is there a proposal to implement it? 
  
  Thanks in advance. 
  Ron
  
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 Isn't this what you want?   evo 2.30.1.2
 
 Bart
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 39

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Please don't reply to digests, it messes up the threading. It also makes
relevant messages hard to find in archives (look at the above Subject
line and ask yourself what the original topic was about). Most modern
clients, including Evolution, can reply to the individual message.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 59

[daniel zapata]

Enviado desde mi HTC
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 50

[Philip Anil-QBW348]

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:13:11 +0100
From: Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution hangs
Message-ID: 1295935992.2935.12.camel@zyxPad
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 10:39 -0500, Philip Anil-QBW348 wrote:
 Sorry, forgot. Evolution 2.30.3
 It is polling MS Exchange server. I do not know how to find out what
 version it is.
 It hangs very often to the point of making it unusable (ironically, I
 am
 sending this email via MS Outlook!). Someone else emailed me after
 seeing this post and said he experiences the same problem - he said he
 is also on Ubuntu 10.10. 

Hi,
is it evolution-exchange or evolution-mapi you are using? 
Bye,
Milan
--
Sorry, I don't understand. The server is Microsoft Exchange.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 66, Issue 50

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Please do not reply to list digests.

If you must use a digest, reply to the individual message (Evolution
supports this, as do many other mail clients).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 25

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Please don't reply to digests on this list. You should reply only to the 
individual message you want to comment on, or if it's a new topic then 
start a new message.


Digests are *only* for people who want to read the list but not post to it.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 62, Issue 30

[Milan Crha]

On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 14:14 +0200, Irina Pulyakhina wrote:
 Oh yes, I followed the Gmail help page and I've specified the port and
 I've also tried both SSL and TSL for both receiving and sending (all
 combinations I mean - SSL+TSL, SSL+SSL, etc), but nothing helped and I
 still receive the same error: error while fetching mail.

Hi,
some changes in account preferences aren't propagated immediately and
require evolution's restart (just close and open it). One of them are
connection settings.

I would suggest you to run evolution, disable your GMail account, then
change options in it as described either in the GMail help page (URL
given in some previous mail to your issue), or by users here, then close
evolution, run it again and enable the GMail account. As was mentioned
earlier, consider using IMAP, rather than POP3.

In case it'll still write the error in the status bar, click the icon on
the left of it, and it'll show you more detailed error message.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 62, Issue 30

[Irina Pulyakhina]

Oh yes, I followed the Gmail help page and I've specified the port and
I've also tried both SSL and TSL for both receiving and sending (all
combinations I mean - SSL+TSL, SSL+SSL, etc), but nothing helped and I
still receive the same error: error while fetching mail.

Irina

 Message: 5
 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:09:50 -0430
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution error while fetching mail
 Message-ID: 1285069190.2903.21.ca...@bree.homelinux.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 11:47 +0200, Irina Pulyakhina wrote:
 Dear evolution users,

 I'm trying to use GNOME evolution 2.28.3 that was installed om my
 system by default. I'm trying to use it with the gmail account and
 with a couple more accounts but it doesn't work for neither of them.
 I've used the standard options for gmail account (pop.gmail.com for
 receiving mail, SSL encryption; smtp.gmail.com for sending mail, also
 SSL encryption). But I always get the following error on the bottom
 panel of the window: evolution error while fetching mail. So I have
 not still succeeded in either getting or receiving email from this
 linux system.

 Gmail recommends TSL for receiving and SSL for sending. See the Gmail
 Help page.

 (And it's not quite correct to describe POP as *the* standard. IMAP is
 to be preferred in my view).

 poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 19

[vijay singh]

On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 05:55 +, evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
wrote:
 Send evolution-list mailing list submissions to
   evolution-list@gnome.org
 
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 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
 than Re: Contents of evolution-list digest...
 
 
 Today's Topics:
 
1. Re:  POP account problem (Philippe LeCavalier)
2. Re:  POP account problem (Patrick O'Callaghan)
3. Re:  [Bulk] Re: Spam in 'Unmatched' folder no longer being
   removed when marked junk ?!? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
4.  Strange behaviour of POP account (vijay singh)
5.  Error while Sending message. (Konrad Str?zik)
6.  Mail notification option (vijay singh)
7. Re:  Error while Sending message. (Patrick O'Callaghan)
8. Re:  Strange behaviour of POP account (Patrick O'Callaghan)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:02:52 -0400
 From: Philippe LeCavalier supp...@plecavalier.com
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] POP account problem
 Message-ID: 1278612172.7048.15.ca...@localhost
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
   I'd signup for a gmail account and either forward or retrieve the
   yahoo mail from there in that case.
  
  I don't see how that is going to change anything. Gmail can't fetch
  non-Inbox mail from a POP server either. If he wants to keep his Yahoo
  address he needs to stop classifying his mail in Yahoo (except for spam
  I guess) and let Gmail or Evo do it.
  
  poc
  
 
 I meant it as a way of weening himself off Yahoo. Migrate all the
 folders to Gmail. Enable IMAP4 in the Gmail interface. And from there
 on, keep the Yahoo account and forward all the yahoo mail or fetch it -
 either way - to Gmail. 
 
 Phil
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 Message: 2
 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:04:39 -0430
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] POP account problem
 Message-ID: 1278614079.2699.87.ca...@bree.homelinux.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:02 -0400, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
I'd signup for a gmail account and either forward or retrieve the
yahoo mail from there in that case.
   
   I don't see how that is going to change anything. Gmail can't fetch
   non-Inbox mail from a POP server either. If he wants to keep his Yahoo
   address he needs to stop classifying his mail in Yahoo (except for spam
   I guess) and let Gmail or Evo do it.
   
   poc
   
  I meant it as a way of weening himself off Yahoo. Migrate all the
  folders to Gmail. Enable IMAP4 in the Gmail interface. And from there
  on, keep the Yahoo account and forward all the yahoo mail or fetch it
  - either way - to Gmail. 
 
 I think we're saying the same thing.
 
 poc
 
 
 
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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:07:20 -0430
 From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 To: William Case billli...@rogers.com
 Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Spam in 'Unmatched' folder no
   longer being removed when marked junk ?!?
 Message-ID: 1278614240.2699.89.ca...@bree.homelinux.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 13:15 -0400, William Case wrote:
  It remains a mystery. It looks like the flagging or tagging of
  messages
  has gotten a little mixed up for the 'Unmatched' vfile.  No junk is
  showing in any of my other search files, so I can't test it in them.
 
 The Unmatched vfolder was broken for a while not so long ago. Maybe the
 fix needs to be revisited.
 
  I guess it is a new bug, not a new feature. If I don't get an
  explanation today I will file a bug.
 
 Search BZ for the previous bug in Unmatched before filing a new one.
 Possibly it needs to be reopened.
 
 poc
 
 
 
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 Message: 4
 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:54:53 +0530
 From: vijay singh testmrs@gmail.com
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Evolution] Strange behaviour of POP account
 Message-ID: 1278653093.21876.48.ca...@bhat-desktop
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Hello,
 I have seen strange behaviour of POP account after adding POP account on
 evolution.
 
 After connecting with POP account (Tried with yahoo account) on
 evolution if i will go to yahoo.com and login then i am not able to 

Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 19

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

This is just to let you know that as far as I'm concerned any future
messages from you quoting an entire list digest will simply be deleted
unanswered. You've already been asked not to do this, repeatedly, and
you persist in ignoring the request. I've no idea if your message even
contains a question I could answer because I didn't read it.

Feel free to ask again when you understand more about netiquette.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 31

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 10:05 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
  You're doing it again! Please STOP replying to digests!
 Why does evolution-list even provide the possibility to subscribe to a
 digest? Isn't a mailing list digest a concept that is broken by design
 and has no reason to exist in this century?

Assuming there was ever a reason for digests to exist;  I've always
thought they were a horrible mis-feature that ruins usability.  And I
was on a 28.8k UUCP feed.

 I suggest we ask the gnome mailing list admins to convert all digest
 subscribers into normal subscribers, and remove the digest
 possibility. 

+1, but good-luck, it will never happen.

 At least for the Evolution lists.
 The mailing list digest concept is a historical artefact from ARPANET
 days that deserves to die.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest/POC

[Brewster Gillett]

 On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 10:05 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
snip
  I suggest we ask the gnome mailing list admins to convert all digest
  subscribers into normal subscribers, and remove the digest
  possibility. At least for the Evolution lists.
  
  The mailing list digest concept is a historical artefact from ARPANET
  days that deserves to die.

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 Fine by me. Everything to do with digests causes all sorts of problems.
 I guess they may have had some justification in the days when most
 people were on dial-up, but those days are long gone and even those who
 still have to use dial-up have better options than digests.

Brewster responds:

Okay, so how do we start the process? Maybe we can launch a trend, of 
listservs permanently turning off the damned Digest option. Whom do
we email to get going on this? Maybe we can make it happen Gnome-wide!

Brewster

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest/POC

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 09:39 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
 Okay, so how do we start the process? Maybe we can launch a trend, of 
 listservs permanently turning off the damned Digest option. Whom do
 we email to get going on this? Maybe we can make it happen Gnome-wide!

The Gnome lists are managed by Mailman, not listserv.

I have no special influence on the list admins, I'm just a user like
you. I guess the first thing would be to write to
evolution-list-ow...@gnome.org. I don't know if there is such a thing as
a general Gnome list admin. I suspect each list defines its own
policies.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 23

[Benjamin (Ben) Badgley]

http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Why_do_my_mail_filters_not_work.3F


Generally, be aware of the fact that the order of your filters is
important. If your very first filter has a Stop processing rule, all
the other filters will be ignored by the emails that match to this first
filter rule. If you want your filters to apply automatically and you are
using an IMAP account, make sure you have enabled Apply filters to new
messages in INBOX on this server under Edit | Preferences | Email
Accounts | Edit | Receiving Options | Options. Also, filters depend on
the new flag which will be set only when a particular mail is fetched
from server for the first time. If any other mail client is used to
check mail before Evolution, Evolution's filters may not work
automatically.

That's great and all but ... I don't have that under Receiving Options.
Is this maybe just an Ubuntu quirk?


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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 23

[Federico Mendez]

I got a question for you guys, how do I back up evolution messages but in
.pst so I can share them with outlook users?

THanks a lot for the answer

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   1. Re:  (no subject) (Akhil Laddha)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:51:39 +0530
 From: Akhil Laddha lak...@novell.com
 To: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve
 Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] (no subject)
 Message-ID: 1271650899.2985.2.ca...@linux-r6qu.site
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

 On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 09:45 -0400, Jonathan Jacobs wrote:
   On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 14:57 -0400, Jonathan Jacobs wrote:
My mother has a boat load of emails that she is trying to delete.
 Evolution is having a problem doing that.  I have posted a bug but
 only a few people have had this problem and they have Ubuntu 9.10.
  No
 error messages pop up, the emails just sit in the trash folder and
 do
 nothing.
   
   Does the user understand the Evo deletion model: mark the message
   Deleted, and later on Expunge the folder?
   
   Is the account in question local (POP) or remote (IMAP, Exchange,
 etc.)?
   
   If the account is local, check the size of the offending folder (not
   Trash but the the folder she's deleting from, probably Inbox). If it's
   close to 2GB, that may be the problem. ALso make sure there is at
 least
   2GB free space on the filesystem that holds /tmp.
   
   poc
  
   Thanks for helping me with this problem. The error that I saw was
Error while expunging folder.  It is a pop3 account and the emails
are just regular emails.  No attachments.  She deletes from IN box and
expunges from trash folder.  Lots of free space.  I deleted what was
in the /tmp folder and rebooted and I get the same error.  Please, any
other ideas? Jonathan
 
  Once again, check the size of the Inbox file, e.g.:
 
  ls -lh ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox
 
  If it's close to 2GB, surgery will be required. This is because Evo
  can't handle mbox-format files larger than this. Expunging trash from an
  mbox file implies making a copy of the file, which is how this situation
  can arise.
 

 If mbox file is less than 2 GB then have a look at

 http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Why_do_I_get_an_error_.22Summary_and_folder_mismatch.2C_even_after_a_sync.22.3F

 - Akhil





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Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 23

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 10:49 -0300, Federico Mendez wrote:
 I got a question for you guys, how do I back up evolution messages but
 in .pst so I can share them with outlook users?

Please don't reply to digests. It screws up threading and the Subject
line has nothing to do with the topic (note that simply changing the
Subject is not enough). Also, what's the idea of quoting the entire
digest so everyone who's already seen it can see it again? Nothing in it
has any bearing on your question. Luckily it was a short one in this
case.

Instead of this reply you could just as easily post the question as a
new message.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 31

[Barbara Tobias]

On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 14:00 -0500, Barbara Tobias wrote:
 Almost all of the items in my sent folder have suddenly
disappeared.
 I have recent backups but do not know how to restore only that
one
 folder.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  Thanks!
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 3:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
1) Is your Sent folder local or remote?
2) If local, does the actual file still contain messages?
3) How do you do your backups?

poc

1) My sent folder is local.
2) Yes; there are 4 from 2009, 1 from March 3, and 2 from yesterday,
although I sent quite a few more than that yesterday and probably send
out from 6 to a dozen daily.
3) Select File  Backup Settings  evolution-backup.tar.gz and then copy
that file to an external disk.

I hope that is enough info, and I apologize for not knowing enough to
include it with the original question.

Barbara

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