Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 09:40 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list 
wrote:
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> On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 12:21 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > > When I run grep noti * I get:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > what you really want is not a grep for "noti", but for
> > org.freedesktop.Notifications instead, thus:
> > 
> >$ grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *
> > 
> > which returns here:
> > 
> >
> > org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
> >
> > org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service.orig:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
> > 
> > If it'll still be just a single file, could you try to run the
> >$ /usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
> > from a terminal, please? Maybe it fails to start for some reason and
> > the terminal might give a clue, hopefully.
> > 
> > Bye,
> > Milan
> 
> Milan,
> 
> Let's see:
> 
> # grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *
> com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
> org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
> 
> Looks OK to me.

Not to me, move away the com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service:
mv com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service ..

There can only be one notifier or there will be confusion ..

> 
> --Doc
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 12:21 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > When I run grep noti * I get:
> 
>   Hi,
> what you really want is not a grep for "noti", but for
> org.freedesktop.Notifications instead, thus:
> 
> 
>$ grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *
> 
> 
> which returns here:
> 
> 
>org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.No
> tifications
>org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service.orig:Name=org.freedesktop.Not
> ifications
> 
> 
> If it'll still be just a single file, could you try to run the
>$ /usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
> from a terminal, please? Maybe it fails to start for some reason and
> the terminal might give a clue, hopefully.
> 
> 
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Milan,
Let's see:
# grep org.freedesktop.Notifications
*com.deepin.dde.freedesktop.Notification.service:Name=org.freedesktop.
Notificationsorg.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freede
sktop.Notifications
Looks OK to me.
--Doc
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 03:02 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-
list wrote:
> My system was originally installed with a F29 MATE spin ISO, then
> upgraded to F30 and F31 with dnf. I have never consciously installed
> any other desktop. Here's the contents of /usr/share/dbus-1/services/.
> The MATE stuff is bolded.
> 
> 
> # ls -lr total 720-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jan  7 08:01
> ca.desrt.dconf-editor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   68 Sep 10 02:29
> ca.desrt.dconf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Jul 24 15:09

When quoting this kind of thing, please use the "Preformatted" option
in the drop-down menu (just above the text pane) so as to make the
result readable.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 12:21 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
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> 
> 
> On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> > When I run grep noti * I get:
> 
> Hi,
> what you really want is not a grep for "noti", but for
> org.freedesktop.Notifications instead, thus:
> 
>$ grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *
> 
> which returns here:
> 
>
> org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
>
> org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service.orig:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications

Right, my mistake

Just want to add, removing org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service works fine here.
Seems like KDE does not need DBUS 

 Jocke

> 
> If it'll still be just a single file, could you try to run the
>$ /usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
> from a terminal, please? Maybe it fails to start for some reason and
> the terminal might give a clue, hopefully.
> 
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> When I run grep noti * I get:

Hi,
what you really want is not a grep for "noti", but for
org.freedesktop.Notifications instead, thus:

   $ grep org.freedesktop.Notifications *

which returns here:

   org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications
   org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service.orig:Name=org.freedesktop.Notifications

If it'll still be just a single file, could you try to run the
   $ /usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
from a terminal, please? Maybe it fails to start for some reason and
the terminal might give a clue, hopefully.

Bye,
Milan

P.S.: by the way, Evolution can easily reply to the list (which works
at least for me better on this list), instead to the individuals, using
Message->Reply to List (Ctrl+L). It works only on list messages (it did
not work on the message I'm replying to, because I did not receive it
through the mailing list). It's true that different users have
different opinion and preferences.

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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 04:01 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:

On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 09:27 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
This looks like my problem (though you don't have 
org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service). Try this
cd /usr/share/dbus-1/services
gentoo64 services # grep noti *
org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
org.freedesktop.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-applets/notification-area-applet

If you find some other notification service there, move it away.
Then test with notify-send "some msg"

Jocke

Jackie

When I run grep noti * I get:

org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-notification-daemon
org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-panel/notification-area-ap

So this doesn't appear to be a solution track.

--Doc

If you can run notify-send and get a msg on screen, then you have some other 
problem.

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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 09:27 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> This looks like my problem (though you don't have
> org.kde.plasma.Notifications.service). Try this
> 
> cd /usr/share/dbus-1/services
> 
> gentoo64 services # grep noti *
> 
> org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
> notification-daemon
> 
> org.freedesktop.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
> notification-daemon
> 
> org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=/usr
> /libexec/mate-applets/notification-area-applet
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you find some other notification service there, move it away.
> 
> Then test with notify-send "some msg"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jocke

Jackie
When I run grep noti * I get:
org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service:Exec=/usr/libexec/mate-
notification-
daemonorg.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory.service:Exec=
/usr/libexec/mate-panel/notification-area-ap
So this doesn't appear to be a solution track.
--
Doc
  
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 03:02 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote:
> I'm not sure I see a solution here, unless you are suggesting I use
> dnfdragorra to delete all non-MATE desktops. That sounds rather
> extreme, and possibly destructive.

Hi,
it would really be the last option (though the workaround from [1]
means that one of the desktops will not work as before).

Search the .service files for "org.freedesktop.Notifications" (quotes
for clarity only). One of them will be 
org.freedesktop.mate.Notifications.service
which you wan to keep. You should have there at least one more, which
you want to get rid of, because these two are fighting whom will serve
that D-Bus name, and the MATE is failing here.

It was KDE in my case, but it can be a different desktop for you.
I fixed it by renaming the KDE's .service file, because I do not run it
that often and I do not care missing notifications there. You might
find other/better solution, I believe.

The best would be to convince MATE developers to finally fix the [1],
but as they didn't want to do it for years, then it's somehow unlikely.
On the other hand, who knows, the time changes.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959

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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 07:43 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 20:21 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via
> evolution-
> list wrote:
> > Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click
> > on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is
> > displayed
> 
>   Hi,
> does the same happen when you open the menu System->Preferences->Look
> and Feel->Popup Notifications and click on "Preview" there? If so,
> then
> I guess you have installed more than just MATE desktop in the system,
> which would mean you face:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959
> The comment #1 contains a workaround, apart of uninstalling the other
> desktop environment.

Yes, I get the same long pause when I click on the Preview button.


> If it's not it, then I guess you can still log into a text
> terminal(for example Ctrl+Alt+F3 , of other Fn key), where you can
> capturebacktrace of frozen evolution, to see what it is trying to do.
> Thatwould be done ideally with debuginfo packages at least for
> evolution-data-server and evolution installed, but maybe as a starter
> it can bedone even without it. The command to use is:
>$ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
> Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like
> passwords,email address, server addresses,... I usually search for
> "pass" atleast (quotes for clarity only).
> To return back to the graphical interface use Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 or
> somesuch, your session can be on one of those consoles.
> > Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed
> > to
> > get application states:
> > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get
> > window
> > list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
> > org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with
> > the
> > G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
> 
> Heh, this is funny. So xdg-desktop-por... (possibly xdg-desktop-
> portal-gtk) finally works only under GNOME Shell and nowhere else, or
> someparts of it. That's an interesting news to me. (I've no intention
> tostart a flame war here, it's just funny.)
>   Bye,Milan
Milan,


My system was originally installed with a F29 MATE spin ISO, then
upgraded to F30 and F31 with dnf. I have never consciously installed
any other desktop. Here's the contents of /usr/share/dbus-1/services/.
The MATE stuff is bolded.


# ls -lr total 720-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jan  7 08:01
ca.desrt.dconf-editor.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   68 Sep 10 02:29
ca.desrt.dconf.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Jul 24 15:09
certmonger.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.LastoreSessionHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   84
Jun  5  2019 com.deepin.ScreenSaver.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   92
Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.CursorHelper.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   81 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Graphic.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   94 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.LunarCalendar.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   83 Aug  9 06:23 com.deepin.api.Pinyin.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.api.XEventMonitor.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Appearance.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Audio.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  100 Aug
10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Bluetooth.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Fprintd.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  103 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.InputDevices.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root  101 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.Keybinding.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   97 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.daemon.LangSelector.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Mime.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Miracast.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root   98 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Network.service-rw-r--r
--. 1 root root   96 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Power.service-rw-r-
-r--. 1 root root   85 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Search.service-
rw-r--r--. 1 root root  105 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.daemon.SessionWatcher.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   95
Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SoundEffect.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root  101 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.SystemInfo.service-rw-r--r--.
1 root root   99 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Timedate.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   95 Aug 10 04:07 com.deepin.daemon.Zone.service-rw-
r--r--. 1 root root   83 Jul 16  2019
com.deepin.dde.ControlCenter.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   93 Jul
16  2019 com.deepin.dde.MemoryWarningDialog.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root
root   89 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.Notification.service-rw-r--r--. 1
root root  101 Aug 10 03:42 com.deepin.dde.WarningDialog.service-rw-r
--r--. 1 root root   99 Aug 10 04:07
com.deepin.dde.daemon.Dock.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root root  103 Aug 10
04:07 com.deepin.dde.daemon.Launcher.service-rw-r--r--. 1 root

Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-17 Thread Christophe ROCHET
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>New member to this list.
>
>I've been advised by the Community support for Fedora users <
>us...@lists.fedoraproject.org> list to post this to your list since it
>involves an Evolution problem. The system is a fully-updated Fedora 31
>with the MATE desktop and running Evolution v3.334.2-1.fc31. If further
>environmental details are required, please ask.
>
>I'm having persistent problems with Evolution fetching and reading Pop
>mail from a local ISP. Every time I connect to a different folder, set
>a filter, or click on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before
>the result is displayed. I see the same pauses with existing, already
>downloaded mail. Thee pauses affect the entire system. When I run
>"journalctl -fa" in a Terminal window I see the following:
>
>Jan 15 23:01:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
>access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
>Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
>get application states:
>GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
>list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
>org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
>G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
>Jan 15 23:02:32 tiger.protogeek.org pcp-pmie[2148]: High aggregate
>context switch rate 48447ctxsw/s...@tiger.protogeek.org
>Jan 15 23:02:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
>access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
>Jan 15 23:03:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
>get application states:
>GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
>list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
>org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
>G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
>Jan 15 23:03:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
>access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
>Jan 15 23:04:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
>get application states:
>GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
>list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
>org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
>G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
>Jan 15 23:04:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
>access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
>
>When I so try to view man kernel_lockdown.7, I get "No manual entry for
>kernel_lockdown.7"
>
>Whatever is causing Evolution to lock up for 24-26 seconds is doing the
>same to my entire system. Ideas? Suggestions?
>
>--Doc Savage
>Fairview Heights, IL
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 20:21 -0600, Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-
list wrote:
> Every time I connect to a different folder, set a filter, or click
> on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before the result is
> displayed

Hi,
does the same happen when you open the menu System->Preferences->Look
and Feel->Popup Notifications and click on "Preview" there? If so, then
I guess you have installed more than just MATE desktop in the system,
which would mean you face:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490959
The comment #1 contains a workaround, apart of uninstalling the other
desktop environment.

If it's not it, then I guess you can still log into a text terminal
(for example Ctrl+Alt+F3 , of other Fn key), where you can capture
backtrace of frozen evolution, to see what it is trying to do. That
would be done ideally with debuginfo packages at least for evolution-
data-server and evolution installed, but maybe as a starter it can be
done even without it. The command to use is:

   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt

Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords,
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at
least (quotes for clarity only).

To return back to the graphical interface use Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 or some
such, your session can be on one of those consoles.

> Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
> get application states:
> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
> list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
> org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
> G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag

Heh, this is funny. So xdg-desktop-por... (possibly xdg-desktop-portal-
gtk) finally works only under GNOME Shell and nowhere else, or some
parts of it. That's an interesting news to me. (I've no intention to
start a flame war here, it's just funny.)

Bye,
Milan

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[Evolution] Long pauses using Evolution

2020-01-16 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via evolution-list
New member to this list. 

I've been advised by the Community support for Fedora users <
us...@lists.fedoraproject.org> list to post this to your list since it
involves an Evolution problem. The system is a fully-updated Fedora 31
with the MATE desktop and running Evolution v3.334.2-1.fc31. If further
environmental details are required, please ask.

I'm having persistent problems with Evolution fetching and reading Pop
mail from a local ISP. Every time I connect to a different folder, set
a filter, or click on send/receive, there's a 24-26 second pause before
the result is displayed. I see the same pauses with existing, already
downloaded mail. Thee pauses affect the entire system. When I run
"journalctl -fa" in a Terminal window I see the following:

Jan 15 23:01:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:02:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:02:32 tiger.protogeek.org pcp-pmie[2148]: High aggregate
context switch rate 48447ctxsw/s...@tiger.protogeek.org
Jan 15 23:02:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:03:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:03:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Jan 15 23:04:08 tiger.protogeek.org xdg-desktop-por[8858]: Failed to
get application states:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window
list: Cannot invoke method; proxy is for the well-known name
org.gnome.Shell without an owner, and proxy was constructed with the
G_DBUS_PROXY_FLAGS_DO_NOT_AUTO_START flag
Jan 15 23:04:34 tiger.protogeek.org kernel: Lockdown: pmdakvm: debugfs
access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7

When I so try to view man kernel_lockdown.7, I get "No manual entry for
kernel_lockdown.7"

Whatever is causing Evolution to lock up for 24-26 seconds is doing the
same to my entire system. Ideas? Suggestions?

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL
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