Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering

2010-06-16 Thread Brewster Gillett
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 13:10 +0530, chen wrote:

  Is that configurable in any way? I like my newest mail to be at the end
  (bottom) of a list. The jump to first in list is mildly annoying in
  such circumstances, especially in folders with a lot of mail. Now I
  know /why/ this is happening I can try to work around it; hadn't
  realised that that was what was causing it.
 Its not configurable.
 
 - Chenthill.

brewster:

This is interesting, and raises an additional question or two.
I always get my newest at the bottom, and here's how...

I have over twenty different folders, for things like interest areas,
personal business categories, or e-group memberships, like this group.
I tend to leave a lot of messages in the folders, because I will
eventually perform differing operations on various ones, depending upon
the subject, and I don't always have time to do those things right away.
So where new (unread) messages show up is decidedly an issue.

I sort by date, oldest first. So my unreads generally appear at the
bottom, unless they're a spam dated 1969 which somehow slipped through
the filters :-) But here's an Evo artifact I have never understood - 
sometimes, not consistently, when I click on an unread to highlight that
line, the entire body of messages will shift around, usually pushing the
bottom ones off the screen. There does not appear to be any logical
purpose for this motion, and worst, it doesn't always take place.
Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon?

The other one that is a bit disconcerting is that there seems to be a
bug in Evo's reporting on the left-hand pane where the folders list
appears, of how many unreads are in a given folder. I can be staring
right at a main screen that shows all eight messages in a folder, with
every single one of the eight displaying as read, yet the left-hand
list pane entry shows that folder as having one (or sometimes two) 
unread messages. Has anyone else noticed that one?

Thanks,

Brewster

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Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 07:32 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
 I sort by date, oldest first. So my unreads generally appear at the
 bottom, unless they're a spam dated 1969 which somehow slipped through
 the filters :-)

Sort by Received Date and you take care of that. The sender's date is
often pure fantasy.

 But here's an Evo artifact I have never understood - 
 sometimes, not consistently, when I click on an unread to highlight
 that line, the entire body of messages will shift around, usually
 pushing the bottom ones off the screen. There does not appear to be
 any logical purpose for this motion, and worst, it doesn't always take
 place. Has anyone else encountered this phenomenon?

Not sure what you mean here. When you say the messages shift around, do
you mean the sort order changes? Also, do you have threading enabled?
Threading modifies the strict date order.

 The other one that is a bit disconcerting is that there seems to be a
 bug in Evo's reporting on the left-hand pane where the folders list
 appears, of how many unreads are in a given folder. I can be staring
 right at a main screen that shows all eight messages in a folder, with
 every single one of the eight displaying as read, yet the left-hand
 list pane entry shows that folder as having one (or sometimes two) 
 unread messages. Has anyone else noticed that one?

Yes, it's a known bug and is quite annoying. If you're talking about
IMAP folders you can sometimes fix it by unsubscribing from the folder
and resubscribing it. This forces Evo to update everything. I can't
recall seeing the bug on non-IMAP folders.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering

2010-06-16 Thread Han Pilmeyer
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

  The other one that is a bit disconcerting is that there seems to be
 a
  bug in Evo's reporting on the left-hand pane where the folders list
  appears, of how many unreads are in a given folder. I can be staring
  right at a main screen that shows all eight messages in a folder,
 with
  every single one of the eight displaying as read, yet the
 left-hand
  list pane entry shows that folder as having one (or sometimes two) 
  unread messages. Has anyone else noticed that one?
 
 Yes, it's a known bug and is quite annoying. If you're talking about
 IMAP folders you can sometimes fix it by unsubscribing from the folder
 and resubscribing it. This forces Evo to update everything. I can't
 recall seeing the bug on non-IMAP folders. 


I see this on usenet newsgroups quite regularly. But it's been a long
time (probably years) that I have seen this on imap.

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Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 20:18 +0200, Han Pilmeyer wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   The other one that is a bit disconcerting is that there seems to
  be a
   bug in Evo's reporting on the left-hand pane where the folders
  list
   appears, of how many unreads are in a given folder. I can be
  staring
   right at a main screen that shows all eight messages in a folder,
  with
   every single one of the eight displaying as read, yet the
  left-hand
   list pane entry shows that folder as having one (or sometimes
  two) 
   unread messages. Has anyone else noticed that one?
  
  Yes, it's a known bug and is quite annoying. If you're talking about
  IMAP folders you can sometimes fix it by unsubscribing from the
  folder
  and resubscribing it. This forces Evo to update everything. I can't
  recall seeing the bug on non-IMAP folders. 
 
 I see this on usenet newsgroups quite regularly. But it's been a long
 time (probably years) that I have seen this on imap.

I don't use Evo for newsgroups, but most of my mail is on IMAP servers
and I do see it from time to time.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering/POC

2010-06-16 Thread Brewster Gillett
Brewster wrote:
The other one that is a bit disconcerting is that there seems to
   be a
bug in Evo's reporting on the left-hand pane where the folders
   list
appears, of how many unreads are in a given folder. I can be
   staring
right at a main screen that shows all eight messages in a folder,
   with
every single one of the eight displaying as read, yet the
   left-hand
list pane entry shows that folder as having one (or sometimes
   two) 
unread messages. Has anyone else noticed that one?

POC:
   Yes, it's a known bug and is quite annoying. If you're talking about
   IMAP folders you can sometimes fix it by unsubscribing from the
   folder
   and resubscribing it. This forces Evo to update everything. I can't
   recall seeing the bug on non-IMAP folders. 
 
 I don't use Evo for newsgroups, but most of my mail is on IMAP servers
 and I do see it from time to time.
 
 poc

Brewster chimes in:

This is probably the juncture at which I need to point out that
I am using strictly POP in this home network... no IMAP anywhere
hereabouts to the best of my knowledge :-)

Brewster

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Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection/date ordering/POC

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 14:15 -0700, Brewster Gillett wrote:
  I don't use Evo for newsgroups, but most of my mail is on IMAP
 servers
  and I do see it from time to time.
  
  poc
 
 Brewster chimes in:
 
 This is probably the juncture at which I need to point out that
 I am using strictly POP in this home network... no IMAP anywhere
 hereabouts to the best of my knowledge :-)

That makes it even wierder. If it were a question of synch problems with
a remote server one could let it pass, as these things can be tricky,
but all POP info is completely local. In particular, the notion of which
messages have been read doesn't depend on anything on the server.

poc

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