Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-09-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2021-09-01 at 19:33 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
wrote:


Hi,
the lookup for the contacts is/can be slow. There used to be filled
bugs about it when users enabled "show remote images for contains in my
address book". It had been causing freezes and such. While it should
not freeze these days, it can still cause delays. Especially when there
are many address books, or when the remote address books are slow (one
reason why there is an option to check for sender's photo only in the
local address books).

> IOW, is it worth filing an enhancement request?

I think you can file a bug for it. After all, it is a bug that the code
does not check for the contact's option properly.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-09-01 Thread Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 18:18 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 17:50 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-
> list
> wrote:
> > I’m wondering how to enforce that setting then?
> 
> Hi,
> it's tricky. To have it working, you need to have the recipients
> auto-
> completed from the address book, using the contact with the "Wants
> HTML" set (in case you've the contact in multiple address books).
> Only
> after that the composer verifies whether the HTML format is fine for
> all the recipients. When you reply or create a new message for the
> contact, the address is not auto-completed, thus the question is not
> shown.
> 
> The "Wants HTML" option doesn't change the compose format, it only
> works as a reminder when the message is about to be sent.

Thanks Milan for the explanation. Is there any reason for checking the
setting only in auto-completion? IOW, is it worth filing an enhancement
request?


> If you want to play with it more, I'd suggest to try Edit-
> >Preferences
> ->Composer Preferences->Sent through Outbox, which will pile the
> messages into the On This Computer/Outbox, instead of sending them
> immediately, where you can review what is sent and eventually correct
> things in it when needed.

Good to know, thanks!

Vincent


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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-31 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 17:50 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
wrote:
> I’m wondering how to enforce that setting then?

Hi,
it's tricky. To have it working, you need to have the recipients auto-
completed from the address book, using the contact with the "Wants
HTML" set (in case you've the contact in multiple address books). Only
after that the composer verifies whether the HTML format is fine for
all the recipients. When you reply or create a new message for the
contact, the address is not auto-completed, thus the question is not
shown.

The "Wants HTML" option doesn't change the compose format, it only
works as a reminder when the message is about to be sent.

If you want to play with it more, I'd suggest to try Edit->Preferences
->Composer Preferences->Sent through Outbox, which will pile the
messages into the On This Computer/Outbox, instead of sending them
immediately, where you can review what is sent and eventually correct
things in it when needed.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-31 Thread Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 18:22 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The ‘Wants to receive HTML mail’ check box remains greyed out
> > whether I
> > enable or not the ‘Format messages in HTML’ option. So I guess the
> > two
> > are not related. But then, in which conditions would the former
> > _not_
> > be greyed out?
> > 
> It depends on what the backend store for the contacts is.  It's
> active
> for my locally stored contacts but not for Google or EWS/O365. I'm
> afraid I don't have any LDAP backend configured to comment on that.
> 
> If there's no category store that information in the backend store,
> then it will be inactive.
> 
> P.

I see, thanks. Indeed when I store my evolution-list contact locally,
that check box becomes active.

Still, when I replied to this message (or when I click on the email
address when displaying the contact), the editor was in HTML mode. I
tried reproducing that setting with myself as a contact, expecting that
I would get a confirmation window if I tried to send myself a message
in HTML, but didn’t get any and I received the message in HTML.

I’m wondering how to enforce that setting then?

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-30 Thread Pete Biggs

> 
> The ‘Wants to receive HTML mail’ check box remains greyed out whether I
> enable or not the ‘Format messages in HTML’ option. So I guess the two
> are not related. But then, in which conditions would the former _not_
> be greyed out?
> 
It depends on what the backend store for the contacts is.  It's active
for my locally stored contacts but not for Google or EWS/O365. I'm
afraid I don't have any LDAP backend configured to comment on that.

If there's no category store that information in the backend store,
then it will be inactive.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-30 Thread Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 14:23 -0600, larry wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 07:55 -0700, Robert McDonald wrote:
> > > I wasn’t aware of that setting, thanks for that! Unfortunately
> > > that
> > > doesn’t seem to be working. When I added the Evolution list to my
> > > contacts, that check box was there but greyed out (unticked).
> > > When
> > > I replied to this message the editor was in HTML mode.
> > > I tried with another personal contact I already had in my list,
> > > same issue.
> > > Is there another setting that might conflict with this one?
> > I don't know.  I am not an Evolution expert.  I'm running Evolution
> > 3.40.0-1 under KDE and Ubuntu 21.04 and I don't seem to have
> > trouble
> > changing the value of that checkbox (it's not disabled as you are
> > reporting).
> 
> 
> I have deleted most of this thread, so pardon me if these setting was
> mentioned. I don't think they're on a per user basis, though.
> 
> ---settings
> 
> Evolution Preferences>Composer Preferences>
>   General:
>     Format messages in HTML: unchecked.
>   Confirmations:
>     Before composer format changes from HTML to Plain Text
> 
> Evolution Preferences>Mail Preferences>
>   HTML Messages:
>     Prompt on sending HTML mail to contacts that do not want them
> 
> --- end of settings
> 
> Behaviour when replying:
> 
> When replying to a plain text message:
>   replies with plain text
> 
> When replying to an HTML message:
> Brings up a requester...
> Are you sure you want to change the composer format?
> Switching to Plain Text format will cause the text to lose all the
> HTML
> formatting. Do you want to continue?
> 
> Choices:
> Don't lose formatting
> Lose formatting
> 
> Hope this helps.

Thanks. I guess I would prefer a solution that allows me to keep
formatting messages in HTML by default, but I’ll consider this one.

The ‘Wants to receive HTML mail’ check box remains greyed out whether I
enable or not the ‘Format messages in HTML’ option. So I guess the two
are not related. But then, in which conditions would the former _not_
be greyed out?

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-27 Thread larry
On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 07:55 -0700, Robert McDonald wrote:
> > I wasn’t aware of that setting, thanks for that! Unfortunately that
> > doesn’t seem to be working. When I added the Evolution list to my
> > contacts, that check box was there but greyed out (unticked). When
> > I replied to this message the editor was in HTML mode.
> > I tried with another personal contact I already had in my list,
> > same issue.
> > Is there another setting that might conflict with this one?
> I don't know.  I am not an Evolution expert.  I'm running Evolution
> 3.40.0-1 under KDE and Ubuntu 21.04 and I don't seem to have trouble
> changing the value of that checkbox (it's not disabled as you are
> reporting).


I have deleted most of this thread, so pardon me if these setting was
mentioned. I don't think they're on a per user basis, though.

---settings

Evolution Preferences>Composer Preferences>
  General:
Format messages in HTML: unchecked.
  Confirmations:
Before composer format changes from HTML to Plain Text

Evolution Preferences>Mail Preferences>
  HTML Messages:
Prompt on sending HTML mail to contacts that do not want them

--- end of settings

Behaviour when replying:

When replying to a plain text message:
  replies with plain text

When replying to an HTML message:
Brings up a requester...
Are you sure you want to change the composer format?
Switching to Plain Text format will cause the text to lose all the HTML
formatting. Do you want to continue?

Choices:
Don't lose formatting
Lose formatting

Hope this helps.





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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-27 Thread Robert McDonald
On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 10:58 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 11:23 -0700, Robert McDonald wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 19:45 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-
> > list
> > wrote:
> > > Evolution 3.40.4.
> > > 
> I wasn’t aware of that setting, thanks for that! Unfortunately that
> doesn’t seem to be working. When I added the Evolution list to my
> contacts, that check box was there but greyed out (unticked). When I
> replied to this message the editor was in HTML mode.
> 
> I tried with another personal contact I already had in my list, same
> issue.
> 
> Is there another setting that might conflict with this one?

I don't know.  I am not an Evolution expert.  I'm running Evolution
3.40.0-1 under KDE and Ubuntu 21.04 and I don't seem to have trouble
changing the value of that checkbox (it's not disabled as you are
reporting).

-- 
Robert McDonald

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-27 Thread Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 11:23 -0700, Robert McDonald wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 19:45 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-
> list
> wrote:
> > Evolution 3.40.4.
> > 
> > I’ve just sent a message in HTML by mistake to this list because I
> > set
> > up my preferences to format messages in HTML by default, and forgot
> > to
> > revert to Plain Text before sending.
> > 
> > To avoid any such mistake in the future I’d like set an override
> > for 
> > select recipients, but I haven’t found any way to do that. Is that
> > possible?
> 
> What about unchecking the "Wants to receive HTML mail" check box for
> that contact (in the Email section of the Contact tab of the Contact
> Editor window)?

I wasn’t aware of that setting, thanks for that! Unfortunately that
doesn’t seem to be working. When I added the Evolution list to my
contacts, that check box was there but greyed out (unticked). When I
replied to this message the editor was in HTML mode.

I tried with another personal contact I already had in my list, same
issue.

Is there another setting that might conflict with this one?

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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-26 Thread Robert McDonald
On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 19:45 +0200, Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
wrote:
> Evolution 3.40.4.
> 
> I’ve just sent a message in HTML by mistake to this list because I
> set
> up my preferences to format messages in HTML by default, and forgot
> to
> revert to Plain Text before sending.
> 
> To avoid any such mistake in the future I’d like set an override for 
> select recipients, but I haven’t found any way to do that. Is that
> possible?

What about unchecking the "Wants to receive HTML mail" check box for
that contact (in the Email section of the Contact tab of the Contact
Editor window)?

-- 
Robert McDonald

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[Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-26 Thread Vincent Hennebert via evolution-list
Evolution 3.40.4.

I’ve just sent a message in HTML by mistake to this list because I set
up my preferences to format messages in HTML by default, and forgot to
revert to Plain Text before sending.

To avoid any such mistake in the future I’d like set an override for 
select recipients, but I haven’t found any way to do that. Is that
possible?

Thanks,
Vincent

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