Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 18:19 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 14:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I
  don't remember creating it.  It can't be deleted.
  Right-click-Properties does not produce the usual popup.  In
  $HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a
  single file named folders.db .
 
 Presumably you subscribed to the Gmane NNTP server. The folder doesn't
 contain mail but news articles from the Fedora group.

I don't remember doing this.  Certainly never intended to.  In fact (as
noted) the directory is empty except for the index file.

  How was this folder created?  How can it be deleted?
 
 Unsubscribe from Gmane.

How do I unsuscribe?  How (for that matter) do I subscribe?  Google is
uninformative.  Likewise evolution help.  To get rid of the folder, I
assume I could simply: 
$ rm -rf .evolution/mail/local/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
but thought it would be a better idea to consult with experts before
doing this.

  Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages,
  moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc.
 
 None of that has been happening to me. Try moving ~/.evolution to one
 side and creating a new one.

I suppose this would work, since it would probably remove one of the
causes of the problem, namely a large number of messages in local
folders.

I recently cleaned up my ~/.evolution by emptying the trash and deleting
all of the local index files, so that evolution would re-create them
when started.  Things got better for a few days, then reverted to their
original bad state.

In more detail, evolution becomes unresponsive 3 or 4 times a day.  It
doesn't exactly crash, since it is sometimes still running, and
responding to some kinds of stimuli; clicking the X on the decoration,
sometimes produces a system popup asking if the program should be
killed, and sometimes doesn't.

 Also, if you want to report problems, it's important to state which
 version of Evo you have, what platform it's running on, and what kind of
 mail is giving trouble (POP, IMAP, Exchange, ...).

Sorry, you're quite right.
$ evolution --version
GNOME evolution 2.26.3
$ uname -rs
Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.jon.x86_64
I'm running Fedora-11 with all upgrades installed.
All mail folders are local.


  What would be a more reliable mail reader?
 
 This is probably not the best place to ask that question ...

Just as you say.

Thanks - jon



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Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 08:40 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 18:19 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
  On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 14:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
   A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I
   don't remember creating it.  It can't be deleted.
   Right-click-Properties does not produce the usual popup.  In
   $HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a
   single file named folders.db .
  
  Presumably you subscribed to the Gmane NNTP server. The folder doesn't
  contain mail but news articles from the Fedora group.
 
 I don't remember doing this.  Certainly never intended to.  In fact (as
 noted) the directory is empty except for the index file.
 
   How was this folder created?  How can it be deleted?
  
  Unsubscribe from Gmane.
 
 How do I unsuscribe?  How (for that matter) do I subscribe?

To subscribe, create a new account and select NNTP as the server type
(this is in the online Help). To unsubscribe, see below.

  Google is
 uninformative.  Likewise evolution help.  To get rid of the folder, I
 assume I could simply: 
   $ rm -rf .evolution/mail/local/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
 but thought it would be a better idea to consult with experts before
 doing this.

Open Edit-Preferences. If you subscribed to Gmane you'll see an account
(which could be called anything but should be something other than your
regular accounts). Click on the tick box to disable it and it will
disappear from the folder list.

If there is no such account, then something is screwed up but it's hard
to say what. In any case, if you're going to modify anything
under .evolution remember always to --force-shutdown first.

   Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages,
   moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc.
  
  None of that has been happening to me. Try moving ~/.evolution to one
  side and creating a new one.
 
 I suppose this would work, since it would probably remove one of the
 causes of the problem, namely a large number of messages in local
 folders.
 
 I recently cleaned up my ~/.evolution by emptying the trash and deleting
 all of the local index files, so that evolution would re-create them
 when started.  Things got better for a few days, then reverted to their
 original bad state.
 
 In more detail, evolution becomes unresponsive 3 or 4 times a day.  It
 doesn't exactly crash, since it is sometimes still running, and
 responding to some kinds of stimuli; clicking the X on the decoration,
 sometimes produces a system popup asking if the program should be
 killed, and sometimes doesn't.

Possibly a slow network connection. I get the same thing from time to
time. Unfortunately Evo is not as multi-threaded as it ought to be and
the whole GUI can become unresponsive because it's waiting for some
network event. It usually wakes up after a while, but if not then do
--force-shutdown and restart.

  Also, if you want to report problems, it's important to state which
  version of Evo you have, what platform it's running on, and what kind of
  mail is giving trouble (POP, IMAP, Exchange, ...).
 
 Sorry, you're quite right.
 $ evolution --version
 GNOME evolution 2.26.3
 $ uname -rs
 Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.jon.x86_64
 I'm running Fedora-11 with all upgrades installed.

Exactly the same version as I have.

 All mail folders are local.

Do you mean that all your mail is all POP-based, or that there's an
independant daemon doing local delivery?

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 15:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 ...
 Open Edit-Preferences. If you subscribed to Gmane you'll see an account
 (which could be called anything but should be something other than your
 regular accounts). Click on the tick box to disable it and it will
 disappear from the folder list.
 
 If there is no such account, then something is screwed up but it's hard
 to say what. In any case, if you're going to modify anything
 under .evolution remember always to --force-shutdown first.

Something is screwed up.  I'll delete the folder (after shutting evo
down).

  All mail folders are local.
 
 Do you mean that all your mail is all POP-based, or that there's an
 independent daemon doing local delivery?

All my mail is POP-based and stored locally.  I have run fetchmail in
the past, but not for the last few years.  Maybe it's time to try it out
again.

jon


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[Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I
don't remember creating it.  It can't be deleted.
Right-click-Properties does not produce the usual popup.  In
$HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a
single file named folders.db .

How this folder was created?  How can it be deleted?

Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages,
moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc.
What would be a more reliable mail reader?

Thanks - jon


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Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 14:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I
 don't remember creating it.  It can't be deleted.
 Right-click-Properties does not produce the usual popup.  In
 $HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a
 single file named folders.db .

Presumably you subscribed to the Gmane NNTP server. The folder doesn't
contain mail but news articles from the Fedora group.

 How this folder was created?  How can it be deleted?

Unsubscribe from Gmane.

 Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages,
 moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc.

None of that has been happening to me. Try moving ~/.evolution to one
side and creating a new one.

Also, if you want to report problems, it's important to state which
version of Evo you have, what platform it's running on, and what kind of
mail is giving trouble (POP, IMAP, Exchange, ...).

 What would be a more reliable mail reader?

This is probably not the best place to ask that question ...

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder

2009-09-02 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
  What would be a more reliable mail reader?
 
 This is probably not the best place to ask that question ...

Besides, google can help you out on that, just as it probably can for
your previous questions.

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