Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? There appear to have been two problems. One is that AT occasionally decides that my secure e-mail key no longer works, and I need to get a new one. This is because AT doesn't use OAth2 on their web access, but does use it with clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird. I still have another problem. When trying to read gmail accounts, evolution puts up a window that says "Login to your google account and accept conditions in order to access your account "gmail" (or any of my other gmail accounts), and "OAuth2 secret not found". It briefly has a URL in it for something having to do accounts.google.com/oath2/..., Eventually, it becomes a "Sign in with google" window in which nothing works -- and the URL disappears too quickly so I can't go there on my own. In particular, the "Next" button does not work. Any keystroke, or any click anywere else, turns the window back to blank, without even a URL. Eventually, I was able to triple-click in the URL window fast enough to capture the entirety before it disappeared. This took me to a google window with an "allow" button for evolution. Now I can read my gmail account. Google gives me a window with "Please copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" but I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. I still get the "OAuth2 secret not found" every time I switch to a gmail account. Whenever evolution refreshes (I think my settings say ten minutes) it puts up that window for every gmail account, and puts "Failed to connect..." panels at the top: I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 with KDE. > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? There appear to have been two problems. One is that AT occasionally decides that my secure e-mail key no longer works, and I need to get a new one. This is because AT doesn't use OAth2 on their web access, but does use it with clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird. I still have another problem. When trying to read gmail accounts, evolution puts up a window that says "Login to your google account and accept conditions in order to access your account "gmail" (or any of my other gmail accounts), and "OAuth2 secret not found". It briefly has a URL in it for something having to do accounts.google.com/oath2/..., Eventually, it becomes a "Sign in with google" window in which nothing works -- and the URL disappears too quickly so I can't go there on my own. In particular, the "Next" button does not work. Any keystroke, or any click anywere else, turns the window back to blank, without even a URL. Eventually, I was able to triple-click in the URL window fast enough to capture the entirety before it disappeared. This took me to a google window with an "allow" button for evolution. Now I can read my gmail account. Google gives me a window with "Please copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" but I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. I still get the "OAuth2 secret not found" every time I switch to a gmail account. Whenever evolution refreshes (I think my settings say ten minutes) it puts up that window for every gmail account, and puts "Failed to connect..." panels at the top: I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 with KDE. My account is van.sny...@sbcglobal.net, but I had to send it from my wife's account because AT also decided smtp no longer works. I'm trying to find out how to get a new smtp password from AT > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 19:39 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > and "OAuth2 secret not found". Hi, do not open two threads about the same thing, please. There is a reply in your original thread. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? There appear to have been two problems. One is that AT occasionally decides that my secure e-mail key no longer works, and I need to get a new one. This is because AT doesn't use OAth2 on their web access, but does use it with clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird. I still have another problem. When trying to read gmail accounts, evolution puts up a window that says "Login to your google account and accept conditions in order to access your account "gmail" (or any of my other gmail accounts), and "OAuth2 secret not found". It briefly has a URL in it for something having to do accounts.google.com/oath2/..., Eventually, it becomes a "Sign in with google" window in which nothing works -- and the URL disappears too quickly so I can't go there on my own. In particular, the "Next" button does not work. Any keystroke, or any click anywere else, turns the window back to blank, without even a URL. Eventually, I was able to triple-click in the URL window fast enough to capture the entirety before it disappeared. This took me to a google window with an "allow" button for evolution. Now I can read my gmail account. Google gives me a window with "Please copy this code, switch to your application and paste it there:" but I have no idea where to paste that into Evolution. I still get the "OAuth2 secret not found" every time I switch to a gmail account. Whenever evolution refreshes (I think my settings say ten minutes) it puts up that window for every gmail account, and puts "Failed to connect..." panels at the top: I'm using Evolution 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 with KDE. My account is van.sny...@sbcglobal.net, but I had to send it from my wife's account because AT also decided smtp no longer works. I'm trying to find out how to get a new smtp password from AT > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
> > gnome-keyring is running. I tried killing and restarting it. I > deleted all the keyring files. > > > > > How to fix it? Well often the most pragmatic approach is a reboot. > > Things were working fine until I rebooted. I have since rebooted > several times. > > Run Evolution from the command line. Are there any errors reported relating to passwords and storage? You might also like to try looking at the passwords/keyting using seahorse - just to make sure it can successfully access them. Can I also just check, is this a native version of Evolution or a Flatpack one? I also notice you sent your last message using Evolution 3.30.5 I presume this is on a different system to the one you are running 3.38.3 on? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 22:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter > > thepassword, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and > > thenreappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior > > is asif the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > Evolution doesn't store the passwords itself, it uses gnome- > keyring(via libsecret). If you are using a non-Gnome desktop then you > need tomake sure that gnome-keyring is running. It usually gets > startedautomatically, but sometimes with non-Gnome desktops it can > die andlibsecret keeps running with nowhere to store/retrieve > passwords. gnome-keyring is running. I tried killing and restarting it. I deleted all the keyring files. > How to fix it? Well often the most pragmatic approach is a reboot. Things were working fine until I rebooted. I have since rebooted several times. > P. > > > > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 19:20 -0700, garywk wrote: > Oh, so a reboot fixes issues that take days to resovle. Interesting. I > guess my laptop doesn't know it;s been rebooted when I fire it up every > morning. This tone is uncalled for. It was not mentioned before that you start your system every morning. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
> > Oh, so a reboot fixes issues that take days to resovle. Interesting. I > guess my laptop doesn't know it;s been rebooted when I fire it up every > morning. > > It's usually better if you give all the information you can to people who are trying to help you. You never said you did daily reboots (I presume that's what you mean when you "fire it up every morning" and it's not just been sleeping). And yes, a reboot can result in different behaviour to a cold boot from power off. I suggest you search through this list's archive for some hints on possible solutions that work for you. Hopefully in doing so you will come across this thread from last year: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2020-February/msg00041.html It gives some insights into how Evolution does password saving and the issues around it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 18:25 -0400, James Toebes wrote: > I run Devuan which is quite different than both Ubuntu and Debian. I don't run into the password issue until system updates. And then they don't resolve until after a later system update. If I had the problem you describe it would be a continous problem not a transitory one solved by system updates. This never used to happen, but that changed a couple of years after I moved to Devuan and it has happened 3 or 4 times since then over a period of a couple more years. Maybe it's a Devuan bug as Devuan doesnt use systemd which is why I moved to it from Debian. > Check your installed packages. I do not get the password issue. I > have > previouly without the keyring packages. On my Ubuntu 20.04 the > following keyring packages are installed. > > jtoebes@jtoebes-Legion-5-15ACH6:~$ sudo apt list installed *keyrin* > Listing... Done > debian-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2019.1ubuntu2 all > debian-keyring/focal,focal 2020.03.24 all > debian-ports-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2019.11.05 all > emdebian-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2.2 all > gnome-keyring-pkcs11/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 > [installed,automatic] > gnome-keyring/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic] > keyringer/focal,focal 0.5.5-1 all > leap-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2017.11.24 all > libpam-gnome-keyring/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 > [installed,automatic] > mercurial-keyring/focal,focal 1.3.0-1 all > pidgin-gnome-keyring/focal 2.0-2 amd64 > pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring/focal,focal 1.2 all > python-keyring/focal,focal 18.0.1-2ubuntu1 all > python3-keyring/focal,focal,now 18.0.1-2ubuntu1 all > [installed,automatic] > python3-keyrings.alt/focal,focal 3.4.0-1 all > signon-keyring-extension/focal 0.6+14.10.20140513-0ubuntu2 amd64 > ubuntu-cloud-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all > ubuntu-cloudimage-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 > all > ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all > ubuntu-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates,now 2020.02.11.4 all > [installed,automatic] > ubuntu-oem-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all > ubuntukylin-keyring/focal,focal 2014.04.10 all > > On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 15:18 -0700, garywk wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > > > passwords. > > > > > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > > > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and > > > then > > > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior > > > is > > > as > > > if the password was accepted. > > > > > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > > > > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > > > distributing (3.38.3-1)? > > > > > > ___ > > > evolution-list mailing list > > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > I have run into this problem multiple times after doing "apt-get > > updates". Something in the system gets broken and then is repaired > > a > > few days later after updating again. > > > > A reboot has never fixed the problem. Linux is not Windows. > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 00:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > A reboot has never fixed the problem. Linux is not Windows. > > As I said, it's a pragmatic approach. There are times when a reboot > *is* the correct thing to do. In this case, what is really needed is > to > restart the requisite daemons in the correct order so that they are > all > talking to each other. Yes, you could kill them all, then restart > them > by hand; logging out of the GUI then back in won't do it because > there > are daemons left running after you logout. The pragmatic approach is > to > reboot. > > P. > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Oh, so a reboot fixes issues that take days to resovle. Interesting. I guess my laptop doesn't know it;s been rebooted when I fire it up every morning. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
> > A reboot has never fixed the problem. Linux is not Windows. As I said, it's a pragmatic approach. There are times when a reboot *is* the correct thing to do. In this case, what is really needed is to restart the requisite daemons in the correct order so that they are all talking to each other. Yes, you could kill them all, then restart them by hand; logging out of the GUI then back in won't do it because there are daemons left running after you logout. The pragmatic approach is to reboot. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
Check your installed packages. I do not get the password issue. I have previouly without the keyring packages. On my Ubuntu 20.04 the following keyring packages are installed. jtoebes@jtoebes-Legion-5-15ACH6:~$ sudo apt list installed *keyrin* Listing... Done debian-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2019.1ubuntu2 all debian-keyring/focal,focal 2020.03.24 all debian-ports-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2019.11.05 all emdebian-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2.2 all gnome-keyring-pkcs11/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic] gnome-keyring/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic] keyringer/focal,focal 0.5.5-1 all leap-archive-keyring/focal,focal 2017.11.24 all libpam-gnome-keyring/focal,now 3.36.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic] mercurial-keyring/focal,focal 1.3.0-1 all pidgin-gnome-keyring/focal 2.0-2 amd64 pkg-mozilla-archive-keyring/focal,focal 1.2 all python-keyring/focal,focal 18.0.1-2ubuntu1 all python3-keyring/focal,focal,now 18.0.1-2ubuntu1 all [installed,automatic] python3-keyrings.alt/focal,focal 3.4.0-1 all signon-keyring-extension/focal 0.6+14.10.20140513-0ubuntu2 amd64 ubuntu-cloud-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all ubuntu-cloudimage-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all ubuntu-dbgsym-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all ubuntu-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates,now 2020.02.11.4 all [installed,automatic] ubuntu-oem-keyring/focal-updates,focal-updates 2020.02.11.4 all ubuntukylin-keyring/focal,focal 2014.04.10 all On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 15:18 -0700, garywk wrote: > On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > > passwords. > > > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is > > as > > if the password was accepted. > > > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > > distributing (3.38.3-1)? > > > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > I have run into this problem multiple times after doing "apt-get > updates". Something in the system gets broken and then is repaired a > few days later after updating again. > > A reboot has never fixed the problem. Linux is not Windows. > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:40 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for > passwords. > > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > > Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is > distributing (3.38.3-1)? > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list I have run into this problem multiple times after doing "apt-get updates". Something in the system gets broken and then is repaired a few days later after updating again. A reboot has never fixed the problem. Linux is not Windows. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
> > It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the > password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then > reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as > if the password was accepted. > > Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? > Evolution doesn't store the passwords itself, it uses gnome-keyring (via libsecret). If you are using a non-Gnome desktop then you need to make sure that gnome-keyring is running. It usually gets started automatically, but sometimes with non-Gnome desktops it can die and libsecret keeps running with nowhere to store/retrieve passwords. How to fix it? Well often the most pragmatic approach is a reboot. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Version 3.38.3-1 keeps asking for passwords
Evolution version 3.38.3-1 on Debian Buster 10 keeps asking for passwords. It produces a indown that asks for a password. When I enter the password, the window disappears, as though it is accepted, and then reappears after about ten seconds. If I cancel it, the behavior is as if the password was accepted. Why does it keep asking for the password when everything works? Is this corrected in a version that is newer than what Debian is distributing (3.38.3-1)? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
