Re: [Evolution] Evolution email colours

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2020-02-12 at 13:07 +, Michael Russell wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> In follow up to Patrick's posting the version of evolution I am using is 
> 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1

When following up a previous message, you should always use one of  the
Reply options, preferably Reply To List (Ctrl-L), or failing that Reply
To All. Sending it as a separate message means it's hard to associate
with whatever you're commenting on. Note that keeping the same Subject
line is *not* the same thing.

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[Evolution] Evolution email colours

[Michael Russell]

Greetings,


In follow up to Patrick's posting the version of evolution I am using is 
3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 12:07 +, Michael Russell wrote:
> I am new to Linux and have installed evolution, which I love. One 
> problem is that when looking and sending emails it shows as black on 
> grey rather than black on white. I cannot for the life of me find a 
> solution for setting to to the more normal window of black text on white 
> background. Does anyone know how I set this to the normal colour used 
>  emails?

Typically color, font, etc... is not an attribute controlled by the
Application but by the Theme.  In your desktop manager's
control/preferences app try changing or customizing the theme.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 13:07 +0100, Michael Russell wrote:
> Does anyone know how I set this to the normal colour used in 
> emails?

Hi,
as Patrick said, an important bit is the Evolution version, not the
distro itself, which many people may even not know.

>From the issue itself, I would just guess that your system has
installed 2.26.x of WebKitGTK+ (webkit2gtk3 or similar package), which
causes several issues, one of them being the background color:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202194

Evolution itself received a workaround for it here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/617
(it is also referenced from the WebKit bug).

Bye,
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 12:07 +, Michael Russell wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> I am new to Linux and have installed evolution, which I love. One 
> problem is that when looking and sending emails it shows as black on 
> grey rather than black on white. I cannot for the life of me find a 
> solution for setting to to the more normal window of black text on white 
> background. Does anyone know how I set this to the normal colour used in 
> emails?
> 
> 
> Using Linux Mint

The platform doesn't usually matter. What matters is the version of
Evolution. Please remember to state this when asking questions (see
Help->About).

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[Evolution] email colours

[Michael Russell]

Greetings,


I am new to Linux and have installed evolution, which I love. One 
problem is that when looking and sending emails it shows as black on 
grey rather than black on white. I cannot for the life of me find a 
solution for setting to to the more normal window of black text on white 
background. Does anyone know how I set this to the normal colour used in 
emails?



Using Linux Mint

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ángel González]

I suspect he simply doesn't have source lines listed in apt config.
Adding a deb-src line per each deb line he has on /etc/apt/sources.list
should fix the issue after he runs apt-get update

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 17:41 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 17:12 +0200, Tom wrote:
> > How may happen that sudo apt-get -s build-dep evolution returns 
> > [...] but: [...]
> 
> Wild guess: 1st is a source package, 2nd is a compiled package? 
> 
> Please ask in a support forum of your distribution. The question is
> not about Evolution but about services provided by your distribution.
> (Plus it's unrelated to "email colours" mentioned in the subject
> line.)

On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 17:12 +0200, Tom wrote:
> apt-cache showpkg evolution
> Package: evolution
> Versions: 
> 3.2.3-0ubuntu6
> (/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_bi
                                                                      ^^
                                                                      ^^
> nary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
  
  

The OP didn't install the package that provides the source code, the
installed package provides the binary, the already compiled Evolution.

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 17:12 +0200, Tom wrote:
> Translation might be E: source package for evolution can not be found

"If the package does not exists in the local repository it will return
an error code." - http://askubuntu.com/questions/324845/whats-the-differ
ence-between-apt-get-install-and-apt-get-build-dep

First install the source package, since it includes the control file
with all the "Build-Depends" listed, perhaps it's also required to cd
into the src directory before, running
  sudo apt-get build-dep evolution
I don't know what exactly is required to get the build dependencies this
way, there might be no need to cd into the src directory. Another tool
to get build dependencies is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt .

If your default local is German, you temporarily could get English
output by running

  sudo LANG=C apt-get build-dep evolution

or

  LANG=C sudo apt-get build-dep evolution

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Andre Klapper]

On Thu, 2016-06-16 at 17:12 +0200, Tom wrote:
> How may happen that sudo apt-get -s build-dep evolution returns 
> [...] but: [...]

Wild guess: 1st is a source package, 2nd is a compiled package? 

Please ask in a support forum of your distribution. The question is not
about Evolution but about services provided by your distribution.
(Plus it's unrelated to "email colours" mentioned in the subject line.)

Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Tom]

Am Donnerstag, den 31.12.2015, 14:30 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: 
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:55:29 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
> >I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
> >prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named
> >evolution packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution
> >background running programs. Then I downloaded the source, and
> >compiled it.
> 
> To get build dependencies there are several ways to archive this,
> installing the devel packages, that belong to a package of
> software you want to build, unlikely does the job. One way that might
> work is to run
> 
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get
> build-dep evolution

just for the record: 

How may happen that sudo apt-get -s build-dep evolution returns 

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut   Statusinformationen werden
eingelesen... Fertig E: Quellpaket für evolution kann nicht gefunden
werden

Translation might be E: source package for evolution can not be found ??

but:
apt-cache showpkg evolution
Package: evolution
Versions: 
3.2.3-0ubuntu6
(/var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
 (/var/lib/dpkg/status)

> 
> but this might not install all dependencies, that might be required for
> a new version of Evolution, it just will install the build dependencies
> required for the source package. Anyway, it might work.
> 
> There are also several ways to build Evolution packages or just one package
> containing all in one, instead of installing it without building a package.

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Andre Klapper]

On Wed, 2015-12-30 at 06:20 -0500, John Lauterbach wrote:
> Please note that 3.10.4 is an obsolete version of evolution.  Serious
> users are using much newer versions.

This wording feels disrepectful towards users that prefer more
conservative distributions. Please choose you words wisely. Thank you.

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Pete Biggs]

On Fri, 2016-01-01 at 18:21 +0100, Butrus Damaskus wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:20 PM, John Lauterbach  .net> wrote:
> > Hello Ian:
> > 
> > Please note that 3.10.4 is an obsolete version of evolution. 
> > Serious users are using much newer versions.
> > 
> > 
> Debian Wheezy still has 3.4.4. There is nothing unserious in using
> stable/conservative Linux distributions!

Except that the versions of the applications in older distros will
still have bugs that are fixed in later versions (nor will bugs be
fixed if new ones are discovered) and they will be lacking features and
improvements.

We all (I hope) understand about Enterprise / LTS versions and the
stability they bring, but the downside is that the solution to many
problems is "that is fixed in a later version".

P.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Butrus Damaskus]

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:20 PM, John Lauterbach 
wrote:

> Hello Ian:
>
> Please note that 3.10.4 is an obsolete version of evolution.  Serious
> users are using much newer versions.
>
>
Debian Wheezy still has 3.4.4. There is nothing unserious in using
stable/conservative Linux distributions!

P.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 15:01 +1100, Ian wrote:
> Pete, I can't find anywhere to change themes in my version, in fact
> there is no mention of themes at all. I couldn't view the help
> (selecting Help Contents did nothing) so I found the help on the net.
> It
> had no mention of themes in it either. Not sure where to look next.

The theme is handled by your desktop environment, not by Evolution.
Look at your DE settings.

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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi Ian,

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100, Ian wrote:
>It seems the official repositories override any PPAs present, even if
>(or maybe because) they contain newer versions.

no, you most likely made an error. There are several possibilities what
you might have done wrong. I suspect pinning isn't the issue, but
assumed you already added and enabled the repository, you perhaps
forgot to update, before you upgraded. If you didn't sync the package
index, the package management isn't aware about the new packages.

Reload, resp. synch the package index:

sudo apt-get update

Assumed the PPA split Evolution in packages the Ubuntu way, you don't
need to remove or purge an existing version of Evolution, you just need
to upgrade:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Warning! Assumed you should have made this mistake, then it's not a
good idea to install packages from a third party repository. Using
third party repositories could break your install, if you don't
understand what you're doing.

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
multiple versions of the OS and various installations.

-e

On 12/31/15 08:30, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:55:29 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>> I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
>> prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named
>> evolution packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution
>> background running programs. Then I downloaded the source, and
>> compiled it.
>
> To get build dependencies there are several ways to archive this,
> installing the devel packages, that belong to a package of
> software you want to build, unlikely does the job. One way that might
> work is to run
>
> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get build-dep 
> evolution
>
> but this might not install all dependencies, that might be required for
> a new version of Evolution, it just will install the build dependencies
> required for the source package. Anyway, it might work.
>
> There are also several ways to build Evolution packages or just one package
> containing all in one, instead of installing it without building a package.
>
> It doesn't harm if the OP backups the install before continuing.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
> Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
> multiple versions of the OS and various installations.

I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages on
Arch Linux too?

The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
>I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux

"elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS

So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).

However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution likely
requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
required for an older version of Evolution.


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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

Yeah, whatever the pre-req's are they need to be installed obviously.
Here's the configure steps that I use for compiling (after installing
the pre-req's):

drwxrwxr-x 25 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 14:53 evolution-3.16.5
drwxrwxr-x  6 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 15:05 evolution-ews-3.16.5
drwxrwxr-x 19 foo iadmin 4096 Oct  9 19:04 evolution-data-server-3.16.5
[foo@bar evo-3.16.5]$ cat ~/Documents/evolution.txt
compile evolution:

c/cxxflags:
export CFLAGS="-mtune=native -march=native -g"
export CXXFLAGS="-mtune=native -march=native -g"

evolution-data-server:
./configure --disable-uoa --with-openldap --with-contact-maps

evolution: (disabled gnome-autoar)
./configure --with-openldap --enable-contact-maps --enable-plugins=all
--disable-autoar

evolution-ews:
./configure



On 12/31/15 09:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 14:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>>> Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
>>> multiple versions of the OS and various installations.
>>
>> I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages
>> on
>> Arch Linux too?
>>
>> The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
>>> I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux
>>
>> "elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
>> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS
>>
>> So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
>> dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).
>>
>> However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution
>> likely
>> requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
>> not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
>> dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
>> required for an older version of Evolution.
>
> PS: When building Evolution there's also to consider that building it's
> data-server is required.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Emilio Recio]

I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named evolution
packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution background running
programs. Then I downloaded the source, and compiled it.

On 12/31/15 03:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100, Ian wrote:
>> It seems the official repositories override any PPAs present, even if
>> (or maybe because) they contain newer versions.
>
> no, you most likely made an error. There are several possibilities what
> you might have done wrong. I suspect pinning isn't the issue, but
> assumed you already added and enabled the repository, you perhaps
> forgot to update, before you upgraded. If you didn't sync the package
> index, the package management isn't aware about the new packages.
>
> Reload, resp. synch the package index:
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> Assumed the PPA split Evolution in packages the Ubuntu way, you don't
> need to remove or purge an existing version of Evolution, you just need
> to upgrade:
>
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> Warning! Assumed you should have made this mistake, then it's not a
> good idea to install packages from a third party repository. Using
> third party repositories could break your install, if you don't
> understand what you're doing.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 14:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-12-31 at 13:35 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
> > Speaking from experience (with RPM's) it's worked every time over
> > multiple versions of the OS and various installations.
> 
> I'm an Arch Linux user, would you recommend to install devel packages
> on
> Arch Linux too?
> 
> The OP on Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100 wrote:
> > I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux
> 
> "elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu"
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS
> 
> So "apt-get build-dep evolution" is one way to get the build
> dependencies (at least for the version provided by the repositories).
> 
> However, there's still the issue that a new version of Evolution
> likely
> requires at least versions of build and runtime dependencies that are
> not available by official Ubuntu repositories, in addition the
> dependencies for a new version might require software that wasn't
> required for an older version of Evolution.

PS: When building Evolution there's also to consider that building it's
data-server is required.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:55:29 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>I just installed the *-devel packages for evolution. This installed the
>prerequisite *-devel libs, etc. Removed the specifically named
>evolution packages. Killed all the specifically named evolution
>background running programs. Then I downloaded the source, and
>compiled it.

To get build dependencies there are several ways to archive this,
installing the devel packages, that belong to a package of
software you want to build, unlikely does the job. One way that might
work is to run

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get build-dep 
evolution

but this might not install all dependencies, that might be required for
a new version of Evolution, it just will install the build dependencies
required for the source package. Anyway, it might work.

There are also several ways to build Evolution packages or just one package
containing all in one, instead of installing it without building a package.

It doesn't harm if the OP backups the install before continuing.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 14:20:38 +, Emilio Recio wrote:
>Yeah, whatever the pre-req's are they need to be installed obviously.
>Here's the configure steps that I use for compiling (after installing
>the pre-req's):

Explaining how to compile and if wanted how to build a package for an
Ubuntu derivative distro isn't the issue, if there should be no
dependency inconsistencies. The issue is that there most likely will be
inconsistencies and most likely they cause a dependency hell.

On the right site of the Debian Tracker links there are the Ubuntu
related sources:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/evolution-data-server
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/evolution

The sources include patches, configure options, build dependencies, all
the needed info to build split packages for Ubuntu flavours and
most likely for the Ubuntu derivative the OP is using too.

Ubuntu even provides already Evolution 3.18.3 by the official
repositories of the development branch.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/evolution

Instead of using your hints, the OP should use the Debian/Ubuntu
sources and package build tools, assumed building Evolution should be
an option for the OP. I doubt that it's possible to build latest
version of Evolution by using shared libraries from the official
repositories of the Ubuntu release the OP's distro is based upon.

It's not impossible to build Evolution, but it most likely requires
much more effort, than just providing a few config options. Maybe the
PPA the OP wants to use, does provide evolution, perhaps without the
need to use shared libraries or by updating shared libraries too.

To cut a long story short, if you like to provide hints, take care
about the distro the OP is using. Actually I don't know the OP's
distro, but I at least have some knowledge about Ubuntu flavours. Other
than e.g. Arch and maybe the RPM based distro you are using, Ubuntu is
a release model distro with likely outdated dependencies, IOW it's
most likely not that easy to build latest Evolution for a distro based
on a release of Ubuntu.
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[John Lauterbach]

Ian, upgrades to evolution require software that is only available in later
versions of the operating system.  If you upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10, you will get
evolution 3.16.2.  Ubuntu 15.10 is very stable (much more so than Windows 10),
and I have been using it on both 32-bit and 64-bit PCs w/o a problem.  Evolution
3.16.2 has a couple of bugs in it with respect to generating business-quality e-
mail that have been fixed with 3.18.2.  Getting from 3.16.2 to 3.18.2 requires
the gnome3-team and gnome3-team staging PPAs.

John

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To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] email colours
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 15:01:11 +1100

Thanks to John and Pete for your replies.

John, I have tried to install a later version but no luck. I found a ppa
(ppa:fta/gno,e3) which has 3.16.1, but when I removed and reinstalled Evolution
it installed the same version again (3.10.4). It seems the official repositories
override any PPAs present, even if (or maybe because) they contain newer
versions. The only other download I could find was a tar.xz. I downloaded that
and started reading the README, I got about half way through and gave up, way
too complex for me to attempt.

Pete, I can't find anywhere to change themes in my version, in fact there is no
mention of themes at all. I couldn't view the help (selecting Help Contents did
nothing) so I found the help on the net. It had no mention of themes in it
either. Not sure where to look next.

Thanks,
Ian
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Ian]

Thanks to John and Pete for your replies.

John, I have tried to install a later version but no luck. I found a ppa
(ppa:fta/gno,e3) which has 3.16.1, but when I removed and reinstalled
Evolution it installed the same version again (3.10.4). It seems the
official repositories override any PPAs present, even if (or maybe
because) they contain newer versions. The only other download I could
find was a tar.xz. I downloaded that and started reading the README, I
got about half way through and gave up, way too complex for me to
attempt.

Pete, I can't find anywhere to change themes in my version, in fact
there is no mention of themes at all. I couldn't view the help
(selecting Help Contents did nothing) so I found the help on the net. It
had no mention of themes in it either. Not sure where to look next.

Thanks,
Ian
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[John Lauterbach]

Hello Ian:

Please note that 3.10.4 is an obsolete version of evolution.  Serious users are
using much newer versions.

I am using 3.18.2 under Ubuntu 15.10, and some in the Ubuntu community would say
I am using "unapproved" software as I had to use PPAs from the Gnome3 -team and
Gnome3-team staging to get to where I want to be.  However, evolution is that
heart of my scientific consulting business; and earlier versions of had too many
problems both in terms of receiving e-mail from clients and vendors using
Microsoft-based e-mail servers and in terms of composing crisp, easy-to-read e-
mails I send to my clients.

John


-Original Message-
From: Ian <mogpl...@tpg.com.au>
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Evolution] email colours
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:39:57 +1100

Hi all,
I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux, and found that my emails
have a black background with dark grey text. I can change it for outgoing
emails, but not emails in my inbox, which have the same background/text colour
combination (very hard to read for us old farts), Seems to be okay for HTML
emails, that is the text of the email is rendered correctly, but the header is
still almost impossible to read. Any advice on how I can change the default
colours? for incoming email and for outgoing?
Thanks,
Ian
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Re: [Evolution] email colours

[Pete Biggs]

> I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux, and found that
> my emails have a black background with dark grey text. I can change
> it for outgoing emails, but not emails in my inbox, which have the
> same background/text colour combination (very hard to read for us old
> farts), Seems to be okay for HTML emails, that is the text of the
> email is rendered correctly, but the header is still almost
> impossible to read. Any advice on how I can change the default
> colours? for incoming email and for outgoing?

Try changing the theme you use - there were some issues caused by GTK
bugs that introduced some bad colour combinations into Evolution.

P.
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[Evolution] email colours

[Ian]

Hi all,
I just installed Evolution 3.10.4 in Elementary linux, and found that my
emails have a black background with dark grey text. I can change it for
outgoing emails, but not emails in my inbox, which have the same
background/text colour combination (very hard to read for us old farts),
Seems to be okay for HTML emails, that is the text of the email is
rendered correctly, but the header is still almost impossible to read.
Any advice on how I can change the default colours? for incoming email
and for outgoing?
Thanks,
Ian
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