Re: [Evolution] question regarding use
On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 00:49 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 00:34:14 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > If you select "Bogofilter", you alone are responsible for the filtered > > mails. It only will sort out mails you trained it to sort out. This is > > what I'm using successfully since decades and IMO what should be used > > on client site. > > FWIW you train the filter not just by marking messages as spam, you > also need to mark false positives as "ham"/not being spam. > > In my opinion spam filters on the server side should be disabled, if > possible at all, but at least I tend to select a moderate level of > spam filtering on the server side. That may work for POP, which I think you use. I use IMAP and only server-side filtering. Since I access my mail from several different places, including with apps on my phone and tablet as well as Evo on my desktop, this works extremely well. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] question regarding use
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 00:34:14 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >If you select "Bogofilter", you alone are responsible for the filtered >mails. It only will sort out mails you trained it to sort out. This is >what I'm using successfully since decades and IMO what should be used >on client site. FWIW you train the filter not just by marking messages as spam, you also need to mark false positives as "ham"/not being spam. In my opinion spam filters on the server side should be disabled, if possible at all, but at least I tend to select a moderate level of spam filtering on the server side. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] question regarding use
A couple of things first. When you are sending mails to the list, don't just pick a random email and reply to it changing the subject - there are headers which say that it is a reply to a message (even though you have changed the subject) and if people have threading turned on your message might go unnoticed. Second, it is important that you say what version of Evolution you are using (Help -> About) - things change over time, sometimes quite rapidly, so it helps to know this. On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 14:42 -0700, ARLENE B via evolution-list wrote: > While you all are obviously very smart folks using evolution, I am not. > So most of the help and tips are beyond my understanding. What I want > to know is, why the hell, after I click to 'view' the email (I am not > clicking to open it, just seeing it in the view pane), does it > sometimes DISAPPEAR on me. What sort of mail account is this: POP, IMAP, GMAIL, EWS? When it disappears does it end up in the spam folder? It may help to turn on "show deleted messages" in the View menu so you can see if the message has been hidden. You should also check that the "Show:" selector in the top bar is set to "All Messages". You might also like to read the help on this at Help -> Contents -> Common Mail Questions -> "I cannot see some emails, where are they?" > And apparently, the CTL+Z does not restore > it? I don't think Ctrl-Z does anything in Evolution message lists - there's no "Undo". > It is very irritating, as I get 100s of email a day, and have to > quickly go through them to preview and delete. I also notice too many > are ending up in the 'spam' folder. Is this because I am deleting them > and not viewing the entire email? Some simple answers will help! Is Evolution scanning for Spam or is it done by your mail provider? If your messages are already spam filtered before Evolution sees them, then your best bet is to turn off Evolution's junk filtering (Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Preferences -> Junk and unselect "Check incoming messages for junk"). If Evolution is doing the spam checking, then you need to train the spam checker. You do this by going into your Spam folder and mark the wrongly junked mail as "Not Spam" (there's a button on the top bar); similarly any messages that should be classified as spam that aren't can be marked as junk. Over time (days to weeks) the spam filter will start working better as it learns what is and is not spam. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] question regarding use
On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 14:42 -0700, ARLENE B via evolution-list wrote: > What I want to know is, why the hell, after I click to 'view' the email (I am > not > clicking to open it, just seeing it in the view pane), does it > sometimes DISAPPEAR on me. Hi, this is most likely a combination of 2 things. You have got "Mark messages as read..." checked. Edit > Preferences > Mail Preferences > Tab: General > [ ] Mark messages read after n seconds And in Evolutions search bar you selected "Show: Unread Messages". Solution: Uncheck "Mark messages as read..." and/or select "Show: All Messages". > I also notice too many are ending up in the 'spam' folder. Is this > because I am deleting them and not viewing the entire email? No it isn't because you are deleting them without viewing the entire mail. Which spam filter software do you use? Take a look at Edit > Preferences > Mail Preferences > Tab: Junk > Junk filtering software: ... Loosely speaking: If you select "Bogofilter", you alone are responsible for the filtered mails. It only will sort out mails you trained it to sort out. This is what I'm using successfully since decades and IMO what should be used on client site. If you select "SpamAssasin", then it does use blacklists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System-based_Blackhole_List . Black list could be helpful for servers, but they suffer very much from false positives. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] question regarding use
While you all are obviously very smart folks using evolution, I am not. So most of the help and tips are beyond my understanding. What I want to know is, why the hell, after I click to 'view' the email (I am not clicking to open it, just seeing it in the view pane), does it sometimes DISAPPEAR on me. And apparently, the CTL+Z does not restore it? It is very irritating, as I get 100s of email a day, and have to quickly go through them to preview and delete. I also notice too many are ending up in the 'spam' folder. Is this because I am deleting them and not viewing the entire email? Some simple answers will help! Thanks, Arlene in Arizona ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
