Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 06:59:01 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: >In terms of one of you getting the email twice, a smart email client >should have seeded this out. Consider a change. I don't receive emails twice, because I enabled "Avoid duplicate copies of messages" by the mailing list settings. You ignore that I already explained, that this will only deliver the message without the mailing list header. Those who receive a duplicated message, would receive one with and another without a mailing list header. Clients you call "smart" usually don't provide an option to chose which of the two messages gets sorted out, the one with or the one without the mailing list header. I also explained that for some clients you completely break mailing list replies and for all clients you break mailing list header related filter rules. Mind your attitude. You are whining about a missing feature that only is needed by a minority of users, at the same time you don't care about the work-flow of the majority of users. In addition you insult those who try to help you. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 06:59 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > If I'm sending this email as HTML, I don't care. Deal with it. If I'm > top-posting, I don't care because, frankly, I have no fucking idea what > that is. Once you've calmed down, realise that: 1) Shouting will get you nowhere. Sufficient shouting will get you moderated. 2) You replied to someone who merely asked you to follow one of the list's frequent requests, but has nothing to do with the rest of your rant. 3) The list would prefer that people not use HTML. If they do use HTML, then include plain-text as well, but you are already doing that so what's the problem? 4) Top-posting means inserting comments before rather than after the material you're commenting on. The list would prefer you didn't do that. If you've been reading the list for more than a few weeks you would know that, but of course it would mean you'd have to pay attention. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 07:04 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > Well that shoots down Milan's idea about lack of demand. How so? The BZ thread has around half a dozen contributors, and the last post was 5 years ago. I still think it would be a good thing to have, but developer resources are limited. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Well that shoots down Milan's idea about lack of demand. On Mar 22, 2017 7:00 AM, "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 11:23 +0100, Torsten Krah wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 22.03.2017, 06:01 -0400 schrieb Benjamin Selzer: > > > How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is > > > missing > > > from such a long standing application? > > > > Feel free to open an issue and add/provide a patchset / changeset for > > that feature. > > I am sure Milan will be happily integrate it if it does fit. > > This is already in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id > =202257 > > It's been around a long time, so feel free to add comments. > > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 11:23 +0100, Torsten Krah wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 22.03.2017, 06:01 -0400 schrieb Benjamin Selzer: > > How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is > > missing > > from such a long standing application? > > Feel free to open an issue and add/provide a patchset / changeset for > that feature. > I am sure Milan will be happily integrate it if it does fit. This is already in Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id =202257 It's been around a long time, so feel free to add comments. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
This email list should be renamed Evolution Circle Jerk. What an absolutely absurd series of responses. The same group of people with the same defensive responses to almost every issue. How utterly useless. The only halfway intelligent response here was the one about creating groups of folders. Unfortunately, that's a laughably complex workaround for a ridiculous omission. You clearly couldn't quite understand my email, and I'll skip the idea, but I appreciate the thought. (And yes, despite the finagling here, it is a blatant omission.) In terms of one of you getting the email twice, a smart email client should have seeded this out. Consider a change. To those of your suggesting I write the code myself, another utterly idiotic idea. If I could write the code, I wouldn't have posted my question here. Are you trying to be stupid? If I'm sending this email as HTML, I don't care. Deal with it. If I'm top-posting, I don't care because, frankly, I have no fucking idea what that is. On Mar 22, 2017 6:42 AM, "Andrea Vai" wrote: Il giorno mer, 22/03/2017 alle 06.12 -0400, Benjamin Selzer ha scritto: > [...] > > -Original Message- > [...] and, please, don't top-post on this list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Il giorno mer, 22/03/2017 alle 06.12 -0400, Benjamin Selzer ha scritto: > [...] > > -Original Message- > [...] and, please, don't top-post on this list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 06:01 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is > missing from such a long standing application? You have not provided a patch yet to implement that feature. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Am Mittwoch, den 22.03.2017, 06:01 -0400 schrieb Benjamin Selzer: > How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is > missing > from such a long standing application? Feel free to open an issue and add/provide a patchset / changeset for that feature. I am sure Milan will be happily integrate it if it does fit. Cheers Torsten ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 06:01 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > Your solution of renaming or creating a new folder and deleting the old > one does not work for default system folders like Sent and Deleted. > These are the standard names as prescribed by any Exchange account, and > I imagine forcing these to be renamed or replaced would create > problems. That is correct, the reason I have written "You could (re)name all your own folders". The default folders and the virtual "Trash" folder might be required by a standard. IMO lexically sort order is the smartes style. You could move all your "own" folders to a new parent folder add your own replacement folders for "Inbox", "Send" etc. and use filter rules to use the replacement folders instead of the original folders. > How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is missing > from such a long standing application? I don't know if this feature is missing. Perhaps Evolution provides such an option, I'm just not aware that it is implemented. However, if you create a parent folder for all your folders, "Inbox", "Send" etc. are not in the way. Please reply to the mailing list only. If you include me to the recipients I don't get duplicated messages, but I get replies without a mailing list header. This breaks the reply to mailing list for some MUAs completely. Evolution works around this issue by invoking mailing list replies, by "Group Reply". Anyway, it still could break sorting by mailing list headers for Evolution, too. Other users might get duplicated messages, one with the mailing list header and a second mail without, which also is annoying. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 06:12 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > Any reason this feature has been omitted? Hi, no idea, maybe lack of user demand, or anything else. > Regarding Search Folders, I enabled it, but I cannot see how to operate > it. Is there a guide somewhere, or can you explain how to use it? File->New->Mail Folder, type name, select "Search Folders" as the parent. Follow up in the user documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-search-folders.html.en Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Any reason this feature has been omitted? It seems so obvious. Regarding Search Folders, I enabled it, but I cannot see how to operate it. Is there a guide somewhere, or can you explain how to use it? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 11:04:06 +0100 Nothing direct. The closest is to define a Search Folder which will simply "Match All" and you add folders into it. Then you can move Search Folders at the very top between accounts (see above where to do it). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Hi, stolen thread, eeks... On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 05:32 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > Is there a way to move important folders at the top of the folder list > in the Side Bar, such as Sent Mail and Deleted Items? No, the folder order is given by evolution itself. You can change order of accounts, in Edit->Preferences->Mail Accounts. > Alternatively, is there a way to pin favorites to the top of this list? Nothing direct. The closest is to define a Search Folder which will simply "Match All" and you add folders into it. Then you can move Search Folders at the very top between accounts (see above where to do it). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
Your solution of renaming or creating a new folder and deleting the old one does not work for default system folders like Sent and Deleted. These are the standard names as prescribed by any Exchange account, and I imagine forcing these to be renamed or replaced would create problems. How is it possible that this extremely obvious setup feature is missing from such a long standing application? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 10:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 05:32 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > > Is there a way to move important folders at the top of the folder list > > in the Side Bar > > Hi, > > I don't know if there's an option to move folder positions, but it at > least is possible to rename the folders you created, so you have impact > on the lexical order. > > You could (re)name all your own folders starting with a number and with > the letter "T". > > 001_test > 002_a_test > > appear on top, right after "Inbox". > > T003_test > > is sorted behind "Sent". Oops, maybe you can't rename folders, but you can create new folders, copy the content of an old folder to a new one and then delete the old folder. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show Certain/System Folders at Top of Side Bar
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 05:32 -0400, Benjamin Selzer wrote: > Is there a way to move important folders at the top of the folder list > in the Side Bar Hi, I don't know if there's an option to move folder positions, but it at least is possible to rename the folders you created, so you have impact on the lexical order. You could (re)name all your own folders starting with a number and with the letter "T". 001_test 002_a_test appear on top, right after "Inbox". T003_test is sorted behind "Sent". Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list