Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 12:34 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 10:32 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 09:57 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > Its not a bug , so nothing to be filed.
> > 
> > BugZilla is also used for RFEs (Requests For Enhancement). It's the
> > only way to make sure your proposal isn't forgotten.
> 
> For the records, bugzilla.gnome.org has been superseded by
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/

I was only vaguely aware of that, thanks. I expect people will still
keep calling it BZ from habit, even though the engine is different.

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-20 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 10:32 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 09:57 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Its not a bug , so nothing to be filed.
> 
> BugZilla is also used for RFEs (Requests For Enhancement). It's the
> only way to make sure your proposal isn't forgotten.

For the records, bugzilla.gnome.org has been superseded by
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 09:57 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> Its not a bug , so nothing to be filed.

BugZilla is also used for RFEs (Requests For Enhancement). It's the
only way to make sure your proposal isn't forgotten.

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-20 Thread Richard Bown
On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 01:06 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> On 2018-07-19 at 18:49 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 12:32 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > > I would sort the mail lists by their addresses into
> > > different folders so I would know what list i'm reading / talking
> > > back to. 
> > > 
> > > Folders like:
> > > HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> > > HAM_RADIO_LIST_B
> > > 
> > > then filter hamradioli...@hamradio.com then sort into
> > > HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> > > folder.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hiya
> >  But its not that simple when some can post to several mailing
> > lists
> > and some crosspost between lists.
> 
> This _shouldn't_ be a problem by itself.
> 
> > You cant filter on list as not all the lists are easily identified
> > as
> > such.
> 
> I would consider a bug in the list. However, you could still use a
> more
> complex condition to filter it (check the recipient addresses, or
> even
> the server that sent it).
> 
> I too, like keeping mails to different lists/groups on separated
> folders. As each list should be sending you a copy, filtering on list
> would move each one to its folder.
> 
> However, what breaks it are the case where the recipient list has
> been
> "conveniently" unified, either by the mail provider (eg. Gmail) or a
> list server shared by both lists (eg. Exchange).
> There is a variant in the case that the mail server sees that you are
> explicitly listed as a recipient and skips sending you the list
> email,
> which is the mailman default, but that can be disabled by the user.
> 
> The problem in such case is that you have *one* email that needs to
> be
> filed into *two* folders, because you should have received it
> *twice*,
> but you didn't. ☹
> 
> 
> > Filters are boolean , so you cant use "maybe"
> 
> How would that help? If a human secretary asked you "Where do I file
> this bill?" and you reply with "Maybe on ", so it
> essentially ends up saved into a random one, how do you expect to
> find
> it later?
> 
> 
> 
> > Perhaps one day we will have AI filters
> 
> That will mainly be a marketing label, not as useful as the name
> makes
> it look like
> 
> > then you could filter on the perceived IQ of the poster, then you
> > can filter on dumb, dumber and
> > dumber :-), 
> 
> but this is actually a funny idea :)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
Hi 
I'm glad you were able to see it was a humorous statement

Its not a bug , so nothing to be filed.
Comparing a list of about 50 e-mail addresses against several mailing lists 
take time, especially as it has to be batched.
The filters I have catch about 80% of instances, and only becomes a problem if 
I read mail on my phone first, so it becomes marked as read.
Which means in Evo its not highlited, hence then having to search to find where 
it went.
Nothing to do with lazyness or idleness or not being able to write a filter, 
its a case of keeping process time and cpu loading low.
A habit I've got into running ARM SBCs
I hope that clarifies the case

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 00:02:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
>> Either I fix it straight away, or if someone volunteers to file a new
>> bug against evolution, thus it's not forgotten, then it'll be nice
>> too.  
>
>Bug 796840 - [Evolution] Colour of string entered in the "Search" field
> doesn't change
>
>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796840

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/74

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Ángel
On 2018-07-19 at 18:49 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 12:32 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > I would sort the mail lists by their addresses into
> > different folders so I would know what list i'm reading / talking
> > back to. 
> > 
> > Folders like:
> > HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> > HAM_RADIO_LIST_B
> > 
> > then filter hamradioli...@hamradio.com then sort into
> > HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> > folder.
> > 
> Hiya
>  But its not that simple when some can post to several mailing lists
> and some crosspost between lists.

This _shouldn't_ be a problem by itself.

> You cant filter on list as not all the lists are easily identified as
> such.

I would consider a bug in the list. However, you could still use a more
complex condition to filter it (check the recipient addresses, or even
the server that sent it).

I too, like keeping mails to different lists/groups on separated
folders. As each list should be sending you a copy, filtering on list
would move each one to its folder.

However, what breaks it are the case where the recipient list has been
"conveniently" unified, either by the mail provider (eg. Gmail) or a
list server shared by both lists (eg. Exchange).
There is a variant in the case that the mail server sees that you are
explicitly listed as a recipient and skips sending you the list email,
which is the mailman default, but that can be disabled by the user.

The problem in such case is that you have *one* email that needs to be
filed into *two* folders, because you should have received it *twice*,
but you didn't. ☹


> Filters are boolean , so you cant use "maybe"

How would that help? If a human secretary asked you "Where do I file
this bill?" and you reply with "Maybe on ", so it
essentially ends up saved into a random one, how do you expect to find
it later?



> Perhaps one day we will have AI filters

That will mainly be a marketing label, not as useful as the name makes
it look like

> then you could filter on the perceived IQ of the poster, then you can filter 
> on dumb, dumber and
> dumber :-), 

but this is actually a funny idea :)


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> Either I fix it straight away, or if someone volunteers to file a new
> bug against evolution, thus it's not forgotten, then it'll be nice
> too.

Bug 796840 - [Evolution] Colour of string entered in the "Search" field
 doesn't change

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796840

Ralf [reporter] 2018-07-19 21:54:34 UTC

Evolution 3.28.4

Milan asked for a reminder, see
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-July/msg00213.html .

I would prefer, if collapsing of the "Search" filed would not be
enforced, while highlighting would be helpful.


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 12:13 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> When you exit a program, why on re launch does EVO remember your last
> search? When you exit a program shouldn't that search box cleared
> itself out on exit so on next launch you could search for something
> else? Instead of displaying what you last searched for, the last time
> you launched EVO?

Different people have different use cases, workflows, preferences. :)

For example, when I restart my web browser it shows the tabs I had
opened before closing it. That can either be convenient or unwanted.

I have certain folders that by default only display unread mail and I
appreciate that this filter view is also applied after restarting Evo.

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Andre Klapper
I'd like to ask everyone on this list to please read and follow 
https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct

Thank you.

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Bown
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 18:49 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Filters are boolean , so you cant use "maybe"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> a combination of filters and their order could be a quite complex
> algorithm.
> 
> Each single filter could be either any of the conditions or all the
> conditions of the filter, unless a filter doesn't fit in one way or
> the
> other, the next filter gets processed. Actually the filter even could
> be
> able to learn, since you could pipe to one program after the other. A
> program able to learn not necessarily has to fit to a definition of
> AI,
> but if you like, you even could pipe to a AI software.
> 
> FWIW you even could "mis"use bogofilter. Instead of using it to
> handle
> junk and spam mail, use it to teach it, how to detect mail that is
> very
> tricky to sort by other filter rules.
> 
> Keep in mind, all software is based on binary code. A bit (binary
> digit)
> just could be 0 or 1. The Boolean data type has one of two possible
> values, but you could use operations of Boolean algebra to process
> the
> results of several filters.
> 
> > Perhaps one day we will have AI filters , then you could filter on
> > the
> > perceived IQ of the poster, then you can filter on dumb, dumber and
> > dumber
> 
> or you reconsider that the rest of the world does not want to fit to
> your idleness. Consider to take the learning curve, to get the skills
> to
> write the filters you need, to satisfy your needs. Neither AI is
> able,
> nor Mr. Einstein or Mr. Hawking were able to read your mind.
> "Intelligence" doesn't solve issues caused by inaction, you need to
> become active in tackling a problem.
> 
> Also consider that preserving existing pigeon holes could be
> counterproductive. Instead of filtering by using existing pigeon
> holes,
> it could be better to restructure the pigeon holes in combination
> with
> developing filters.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
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I'm getting more than a bit fed up with a certain person who seem s to
get a wasp flew up his lederhosen and sting him, after I post anything.
As far as I'm concerned and perhaps others , he had exceeded the
conditions for posting on this list.

I suggest he puts his Teutonic opinions where the sun doesn't shine and
shut up with his petty insults
There is a little Norwegian creature which describes his actions
Please desist


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Reid Thompson via evolution-list
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
...snip...
> 
> Also consider that preserving existing pigeon holes could be
> counterproductive. Instead of filtering by using existing pigeon holes,
> it could be better to restructure the pigeon holes in combination with
> developing filters.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf


https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters-conditions.html.en


from the above page i've found these to be handy...

...snip...

Expression:

(For programmers only) Match a message according to an expression you write in 
the Scheme language used to define filters in Evolution.

https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html.en




Free Form Expression:

(For advanced users only) Combine numerous conditions by using a special syntax.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550796#c10

...snip...

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 18:49 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> Filters are boolean , so you cant use "maybe"

Hi,

a combination of filters and their order could be a quite complex
algorithm.

Each single filter could be either any of the conditions or all the
conditions of the filter, unless a filter doesn't fit in one way or the
other, the next filter gets processed. Actually the filter even could be
able to learn, since you could pipe to one program after the other. A
program able to learn not necessarily has to fit to a definition of AI,
but if you like, you even could pipe to a AI software.

FWIW you even could "mis"use bogofilter. Instead of using it to handle
junk and spam mail, use it to teach it, how to detect mail that is very
tricky to sort by other filter rules.

Keep in mind, all software is based on binary code. A bit (binary digit)
just could be 0 or 1. The Boolean data type has one of two possible
values, but you could use operations of Boolean algebra to process the
results of several filters.

> Perhaps one day we will have AI filters , then you could filter on the
> perceived IQ of the poster, then you can filter on dumb, dumber and
> dumber

or you reconsider that the rest of the world does not want to fit to
your idleness. Consider to take the learning curve, to get the skills to
write the filters you need, to satisfy your needs. Neither AI is able,
nor Mr. Einstein or Mr. Hawking were able to read your mind.
"Intelligence" doesn't solve issues caused by inaction, you need to
become active in tackling a problem.

Also consider that preserving existing pigeon holes could be
counterproductive. Instead of filtering by using existing pigeon holes,
it could be better to restructure the pigeon holes in combination with
developing filters.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Bown
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 12:32 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 11:25 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > 
> > I'll give an example
> > As you can see from my sig block I'm a Radio Ham, 
> > I filter personal Ham mail in to one folder, I also subscribe to
> > several mailing lists
> > 
> 
> Oh Richard! That would totally set my OCD off. < Laughing Out Loud>
> 
> Me personally, I would sort the mail lists by their addresses into
> different folders so I would know what list i'm reading / talking
> back
> to. 
> 
> Folders like:
> 
> HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> 
> HAM_RADIO_LIST_B
> 
> 
> then filter hamradioli...@hamradio.com then sort into
> HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
> folder.
> 
> 
Hiya
 But its not that simple when some can post to several mailing lists
and some crosspost between lists.

You cant filter on list as not all the lists are easily identified as
such.
Filters are boolean , so you cant use "maybe"
Perhaps one day we will have AI filters , then you could filter on the
perceived IQ of the poster, then you can filter on dumb, dumber and
dumber :-), even have trump status , but I wont say which end of the
spectrum to put that.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 11:25 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> 
> I'll give an example
> As you can see from my sig block I'm a Radio Ham, 
> I filter personal Ham mail in to one folder, I also subscribe to
> several mailing lists
> 

Oh Richard! That would totally set my OCD off. < Laughing Out Loud>

Me personally, I would sort the mail lists by their addresses into
different folders so I would know what list i'm reading / talking back
to. 

Folders like:

HAM_RADIO_LIST_A

HAM_RADIO_LIST_B


then filter hamradioli...@hamradio.com then sort into HAM_RADIO_LIST_A
folder.


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Christopher Marlow
Hi Y'all,

I hate to steer this conversation towards a different direction ( back
towards my original email)

But, I still don't understand why even though I closed Evolution
properly using FILE > EXIT. That the next time I loaded up EVO and
clicked on my "Archives folder" that in the search bar at the top right
of the screen  still showed https://imgur.com/a/Oy54OAg

When you exit a program, why on re launch does EVO remember your last
search? When you exit a program shouldn't that search box cleared
itself out on exit so on next launch you could search for something
else? Instead of displaying what you last searched for, the last time
you launched EVO?

I hope that made sense... It took me a while to make sure I worded that
paragraph above correctly. Shoo! < Laughing >
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 12:48 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > ... and even evolution doesn't use that function anymore, it uses
> > some CSS foo to workaround the problem, it doesn't work for some
> > reason. Either I fix it straight away, or...
> 
>   
> fixed [1] for 3.29.90+ and 3.28.5+.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/commit/3b9e4b0475

Thanks Milan.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
Hi,

On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> ... and even evolution doesn't use that function anymore, it uses
> some CSS foo to workaround the problem, it doesn't work for some
> reason. Either I fix it straight away, or...


fixed [1] for 3.29.90+ and 3.28.5+.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/commit/3b9e4b0475

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Bown
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 10:21 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Hi
> > I think better would be to make it apply to all folders, it would
> > make
> > searching quicker, just then a case on moving down the folder tree.
> 
> Oh I would hate that and I really don't think it would make searching
> any quicker and would slow everything down.  I have some massive
> folders that are not usually searched for anything so aren't cached -
> it would frustrate me no end if I happen to have searched for
> something
> and change folders, for it to then to start downloading everything.
> 
> My folders are also very specific in what they hold - a search in one
> folder would just not be applicable to another. And I also quite like
> the fact that a search in a folder is sticky - I can look for
> something when replying to another email and know the same search
> results will be there even if I look for something different in
> another
> folder.
> 
> Your use case of not knowing where an email might be is exactly why
> there is the "Current Account" option in the search.
> 
> P.

I'll give an example
As you can see from my sig block I'm a Radio Ham, 
I filter personal Ham mail in to one folder, I also subscribe to several 
mailing lists
which are primarily for Hams. It often occurs that someone who is on my Ham 
personal list answers or posts
in one of the mailing lists, so depending on the order of the filters it will 
often go in the wrong folder,
if a multiple posting is made , ie. the use of CC.
I could expand the filters, which would really increase filtering time, I would 
prefer not to do that.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Pete Biggs


> Hi
> I think better would be to make it apply to all folders, it would make
> searching quicker, just then a case on moving down the folder tree.

Oh I would hate that and I really don't think it would make searching
any quicker and would slow everything down.  I have some massive
folders that are not usually searched for anything so aren't cached -
it would frustrate me no end if I happen to have searched for something
and change folders, for it to then to start downloading everything.

My folders are also very specific in what they hold - a search in one
folder would just not be applicable to another. And I also quite like
the fact that a search in a folder is sticky - I can look for
something when replying to another email and know the same search
results will be there even if I look for something different in another
folder.

Your use case of not knowing where an email might be is exactly why
there is the "Current Account" option in the search.

P.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Bown
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 08:31 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 19:13 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I think better would be to make it apply to all folders, it would
> > make searching quicker, just then a case on moving down the folder
> > tree.
> 
>   Hi,
> there is that Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab-
> >Message 
> Display section->Apply the same view settings to all folders option,
> but I'm not sure whether it means also the search itself.
> 
> There are few/many users using different searches in different
> folders
> at the same time though, thus, I'd say, both solutions have their
> pros
> and cons.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 

Hi Milan

What I meant was when you use the search using the folder option , to have the 
same search parameter if you change folder.
The current search is ignored if you change folder, unless you select current 
account, and then you get everything that 
meets the search parameter displayed.
I have over 20 folders, so its nice to be able to search folder by folder with 
same search parameter.
If I read a mail on my phone, its marked as read, and sometimes depending on 
filtering the mail could go into several different folders,
when I process it on the laptop.

Just a nice feature, but only worth adding if you are reworking the search 
facilities, nothing urgent about it.
Thanks
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 19:13 +0100, Richard Bown wrote:
> I think better would be to make it apply to all folders, it would
> make searching quicker, just then a case on moving down the folder
> tree.

Hi,
there is that Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message 
Display section->Apply the same view settings to all folders option,
but I'm not sure whether it means also the search itself.

There are few/many users using different searches in different folders
at the same time though, thus, I'd say, both solutions have their pros
and cons.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Richard Bown
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 20:00 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > It doesn't for me and I'm using Adwaita which I thought was the
> > default.
> 
>   Hi,
> it is this gtk+ bug:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656461
> 
> and even evolution doesn't use that function anymore, it uses some
> CSS
> foo to workaround the problem, it doesn't work for some reason.
> Either I fix it straight away, or if someone volunteers to file a new
> bug against evolution, thus it's not forgotten, then it'll be nice
> too.
> 
> I think a nice long-term solution would be to show the search bar
> only
> if it's searching and "collapse" it when not. That would give cleaner
> interface as well. Just an idea.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
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I think better would be to make it apply to all folders, it would make
searching quicker, just then a case on moving down the folder tree.
it would be the same behaviour as Claws mail.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> It doesn't for me and I'm using Adwaita which I thought was the
> default.

Hi,
it is this gtk+ bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656461

and even evolution doesn't use that function anymore, it uses some CSS
foo to workaround the problem, it doesn't work for some reason.
Either I fix it straight away, or if someone volunteers to file a new
bug against evolution, thus it's not forgotten, then it'll be nice too.

I think a nice long-term solution would be to show the search bar only
if it's searching and "collapse" it when not. That would give cleaner
interface as well. Just an idea.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > That's already the case for a string entered in the "Search"
> > > > field. 
> > > 
> > > That might depend on the used theme
> > 
> > True. It works for the standard default GNOME theme though.
> 
> It doesn't for me and I'm using Adwaita which I thought was the
> default.

Ditto here; I've never installed a theme in my life.  I'm using stock
Ubuntu 18.04 (and Ubuntu GNOME before Ubuntu dumped Unity; I've never
used Unity) and I've never seen the search bar change color.  This is
Evolution 3.28.1.

For some reason my email server is greylisted on gnome.org so most of
you probably won't see this email.  C'est le guerre.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > That's already the case for a string entered in the "Search"
> > > field. 
> > 
> > That might depend on the used theme
> 
> True. It works for the standard default GNOME theme though.

It doesn't for me and I'm using Adwaita which I thought was the
default.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:51 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > That's already the case for a string entered in the "Search"
> > > field. 
> > 
> > That might depend on the used theme
> 
> True. It works for the standard default GNOME theme though.

I use Evo under KDE and I'm only now noticing that the background
doesn't change, though I'm certain that at one time it did work as
expected. No doubt something changed in the default theme. As the one
who first suggested the feature years ago it's slightly embarrassing :-
).

poc
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > That's already the case for a string entered in the "Search"
> > field. 
> 
> That might depend on the used theme

True. It works for the standard default GNOME theme though.

> , since for
> $ pacman -Q evolution
> evolution 3.28.4-1
> and the theme I'm using, this doesn't happen.

Anyone is free to use custom themes that limit user experience. :)

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 07:52 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> > I'd recommend highlighting the search bar when it's actively
> > restricting your view of the folder contents
> 
> That's already the case for a string entered in the "Search" field. 

That might depend on the used theme, since for

$ pacman -Q evolution
evolution 3.28.4-1

and the theme I'm using, this doesn't happen. It's a customized Arc
theme:

$ grep gtk-theme .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini 
gtk-theme-name=Arc-RM-Cornflower

If it should work when using a default GNOME theme such as Adwaita, then
it's not a solution for everybody who wants to get a theme for
professional usage, that might not be as good as themes are for air
planes or military gear, but at least closer to such a air plane and
military gear approach, than to the ridiculous, amateurish GNOME themes.

Actually I replaced Adwaita with an Arc theme fixed by myself, because
Adwaita became a PITA.


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 21:51 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> Okay, Im totally freaking out over here

That's usually the state when not to send emails and instead sleep for
one night.

> But I want to know where did everything go?
> 
> And please tell me I can get all of my files back?

Please start reading user documentation.

https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-cannot-see.html

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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-17 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 20:08 -0700, Douglas Summers wrote:
> 
> Better to be an idiot who didn't lose his emails, right? :)
> Believe me - we've all been there.
> 


HAHAHA! Agreed! :P


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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-17 Thread Douglas Summers
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 21:57 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA never mind i'm an idiot! 
> 
> I forgot I had something typed in the search bar, I was looking for a
> certain email sent to my @aol.com address and thats why I could only
> see 4 emails
> 
> As soon as I eraced @AOL.COM
> 
> and hit enter
> 
> everything came back
> 
> shoo! I got really scared there for a minute. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you and take care!
> -- Chris
> 
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Better to be an idiot who didn't lose his emails, right? :)
Believe me - we've all been there.
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Re: [Evolution] all of my archived emails dissapeared

2018-07-17 Thread Christopher Marlow
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA never mind i'm an idiot! 

I forgot I had something typed in the search bar, I was looking for a
certain email sent to my @aol.com address and thats why I could only
see 4 emails

As soon as I eraced @AOL.COM

and hit enter

everything came back

shoo! I got really scared there for a minute. 



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