[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Build failures on current 1.4.1 dailies

2009-05-04 Thread Or Gerlitz
Gennadiy Nerubayev  wrote:

> Running on 2.6.27.21 x64. ofa_kernel build error as follows:


What makes you use ofed on this kernel? if you need newer features, simply
use 2.6.29.1 or newer bits. Also if you still need to use ofed, the place
its worked out is the ewg list @ ewg@lists.openfabrics.org, the general list
is for the upstream kernel.

Or.
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[ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Build failures on current 1.4.1 dailies

2009-05-07 Thread Gennadiy Nerubayev
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Or Gerlitz  wrote:

> Gennadiy Nerubayev  wrote:
>
>> Running on 2.6.27.21 x64. ofa_kernel build error as follows:
>
>
> What makes you use ofed on this kernel? if you need newer features, simply
> use 2.6.29.1 or newer bits. Also if you still need to use ofed, the place
> its worked out is the ewg list @ ewg@lists.openfabrics.org, the general
> list is for the upstream kernel.
>

Well, I need a recent-ish vanilla kernel due to some performance advantages
over stock redhat in some usage scenarios. OFED goes on top of that because
of the ease of installation and use.

I know I can install and use some of the userspace ofed stuff (opensm,
utils, management, libs, etc) along with the in-kernel infinband stack on
2.6.29.1, but even that does not include the whole picture compared to full
ofed. Simple stuff still needs to be added for it to be functional, such as
90-ib.rules which is part of the ofa_kernel rpm package; but I digress.
Also, this may sound dumb, but where do I get the support for SDP with
in-kernel stack? I can build the libsdp stuff in ofed, but the actual module
appears to be ofa_kernel only?

Thanks,

-Gennadiy
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Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Build failures on current 1.4.1 dailies

2009-05-09 Thread Or Gerlitz

Gennadiy Nerubayev wrote:
Well, I need a recent-ish vanilla kernel due to some performance 
advantages over stock redhat in some usage scenarios. OFED goes on top 
of that because of the ease of installation and use.I know I can 
install and use some of the userspace ofed stuff (opensm, utils, 
management, libs, etc) along with the in-kernel infinband stack on 
2.6.29.1, but even that does not include the whole picture compared to 
full ofed. Simple stuff still needs to be added for it to be 
functional, such as 90-ib.rules which is part of the ofa_kernel rpm 
package; but I digress.
You mentioned redhat, so you could use the IB stack provided by the 
distro and just replace the kernel. This IB stack has all the components 
you have mentioned.


Also, this may sound dumb, but where do I get the support for SDP with 
in-kernel stack? I can build the libsdp stuff in ofed, but the actual 
module appears to be ofa_kernel only?

sdp was never submitted upstream... do you use it?

Or.


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Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Build failures on current 1.4.1 dailies

2009-05-10 Thread Gennadiy Nerubayev
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Or Gerlitz  wrote:

> Gennadiy Nerubayev wrote:
>
>> Well, I need a recent-ish vanilla kernel due to some performance
>> advantages over stock redhat in some usage scenarios. OFED goes on top of
>> that because of the ease of installation and use.I know I can install and
>> use some of the userspace ofed stuff (opensm, utils, management, libs, etc)
>> along with the in-kernel infinband stack on 2.6.29.1, but even that does not
>> include the whole picture compared to full ofed. Simple stuff still needs to
>> be added for it to be functional, such as 90-ib.rules which is part of the
>> ofa_kernel rpm package; but I digress.
>>
> You mentioned redhat, so you could use the IB stack provided by the distro
> and just replace the kernel. This IB stack has all the components you have
> mentioned.
>

Upgrading the kernel would break ofa_kernel functionality though, so core
components would no longer work. Which is why I'd need to use the stack
inside the kernel, then use the userspace from ofed. Somewhat unrelated, but
the other component that I need is latest scst/ib_srpt, which does not yet
build very nicely against ofa_kernel.

 Also, this may sound dumb, but where do I get the support for SDP with
> in-kernel stack? I can build the libsdp stuff in ofed, but the actual module
> appears to be ofa_kernel only?
>
sdp was never submitted upstream... do you use it?


Doh. I don't currently use it, but I'll need it relatively soon for a
particular application. I can see that I can build rdma/nfs in vanilla
kernel which takes care of the build failure that I mentioned earlier.
However, without sdp in upstream it's going to be a choice of either older
kernel with ofa_kernel and sdp but no ib_srpt from scst, or newer kernel
with ib_srpt from scst but no sdp. I know that there's some progress on scst
portion to get ib_srpt to compile properly against current ofa_kernel, but
having the alternate option of sdp in upstream would be great as well... is
there a particular reason why it wasn't submitted?

In any case, I'd love to have my cake and eat it too :p

-Gennadiy
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Re: [ewg] Re: [ofa-general] Build failures on current 1.4.1 dailies

2009-05-11 Thread Amir Vadai

Hi,

Actually, from preliminary tests SDP should work with 2.6.29 kernel. It 
isn't fully tested - but it should work.


- Amir

On 05/10/2009 10:29 AM, Gennadiy Nerubayev wrote:

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Or Gerlitz mailto:ogerl...@voltaire.com>> wrote:

Gennadiy Nerubayev wrote:

Well, I need a recent-ish vanilla kernel due to some performance
advantages over stock redhat in some usage scenarios. OFED goes
on top of that because of the ease of installation and use.I
know I can install and use some of the userspace ofed stuff
(opensm, utils, management, libs, etc) along with the in-kernel
infinband stack on 2.6.29.1, but even that does not include the
whole picture compared to full ofed. Simple stuff still needs to
be added for it to be functional, such as 90-ib.rules which is
part of the ofa_kernel rpm package; but I digress.

You mentioned redhat, so you could use the IB stack provided by the
distro and just replace the kernel. This IB stack has all the
components you have mentioned.


Upgrading the kernel would break ofa_kernel functionality though, so
core components would no longer work. Which is why I'd need to use the
stack inside the kernel, then use the userspace from ofed. Somewhat
unrelated, but the other component that I need is latest scst/ib_srpt,
which does not yet build very nicely against ofa_kernel.

Also, this may sound dumb, but where do I get the support for SDP
with in-kernel stack? I can build the libsdp stuff in ofed, but the
actual module appears to be ofa_kernel only?

sdp was never submitted upstream... do you use it?


Doh. I don't currently use it, but I'll need it relatively soon for a
particular application. I can see that I can build rdma/nfs in vanilla
kernel which takes care of the build failure that I mentioned earlier.
However, without sdp in upstream it's going to be a choice of either
older kernel with ofa_kernel and sdp but no ib_srpt from scst, or newer
kernel with ib_srpt from scst but no sdp. I know that there's some
progress on scst portion to get ib_srpt to compile properly against
current ofa_kernel, but having the alternate option of sdp in upstream
would be great as well... is there a particular reason why it wasn't
submitted?

In any case, I'd love to have my cake and eat it too :p

-Gennadiy




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