Re: [ewg] STOP the onslaught of EWG spam - disallowing non member posts

2008-08-18 Thread Or Gerlitz

Jeff Squyres wrote:
The EWG list has gotten spam bombed over the last few hours.  I lost 
count at 500+ spams in my inbox. I therefore logged into 
openfabrics.org and changed the site-wide password for Mailman (I have 
notified Jeff Becker of the new password).  I then changed the EWG 
list to silently discard all non-member posts.  Since I didn't know if 
other OF lists were being spam-bombed, I did the same for all OF lists 
as well.



Hi Jeff,

Disallowing non members posts to the general list is problematic, since 
as of the below MAINTAINERS entry this is where people from the kernel 
community post issues they have with the RDMA stack, and you don't 
expect everyone to subscribe the list...


white-listing member posts sounds fine, but this is a bit too much. As 
Sasha said and as was mentioned few times in the past, it seems like the 
old @openib.org aliases cause us lots of troubles, maybe we should just 
remove them.


Or.



INFINIBAND SUBSYSTEM
P:  Roland Dreier
M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
P:  Sean Hefty
M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
P:  Hal Rosenstock
M:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
L:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W:  http://www.openib.org/
T:  git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/roland/infiniband.git
S:  Supported

  



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Re: [ewg] STOP the onslaught of EWG spam - disallowing non member posts

2008-08-19 Thread Jeff Squyres
FWIW: I think we all know each other's positions on open vs. closed  
lists.  :-)


I only did what I did this weekend to stop the inbox tragedy.  I leave  
future actions (such as re-enabling anonymous posting) up to Jeff  
Becker, the real sysadmin.


I'd personally be in favor of removing *all* aliases for openib.org.


On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Roland Dreier wrote:


Disallowing non members posts to the general list is problematic,
since as of the below MAINTAINERS entry this is where people from the
kernel community post issues they have with the RDMA stack, and you
don't expect everyone to subscribe the list...


I agree... closed mailing lists are a pain for lists like general@  
where
we want to encourage people, even non-subscribers, to drop by and  
report

bugs, and forcing them to subscribe raises an unnecessary barrier.

It's probably acceptable to leave ewg closed, since the discussion on
that list generally involves only subscribers.

In any case it would be interesting to understand exactly why ewg
started getting such a huge flood of traffic anyway.  It seemed that  
the

majority of mails were not actually spam but rather backscatter bounce
messages caused by spam with a forged from address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems disabling the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address would fix things for  
now,

and if there were some way to stop mailman from forwarding bounce
messages, that would deal with the backscatter issue more permanently.

- R.



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Jeff Squyres
Cisco Systems

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