$$Excel-Macros$$ Formulas for predictive analysis and forecasting

2012-09-25 Thread krishnanm2006
Dear Excel Gurus ! Hope you guys are doing well... I required some formulas/ 
functions that can be used for predictive/ forecasting models... Currently I am 
using slope (linest) and intercept.. But require another formula which can make 
my analysis more perfect... Thanks in advance !

Krishnan
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Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Formulas for predictive analysis and forecasting

2012-09-25 Thread David Grugeon
This is not my area of expertise but I will give you a few pointers.
There are probably statisticians in the group who can improve, or may
disagree with what I am saying.

It depends what you are predicting.  You need to understand the data
and the theatre in which you are observing them.  If possible you need
to understand what the drivers are and model the impact the drivers
have on the output.

Sometimes you are dealing with a complex system such as a perfect
market which has a substantial quantity of independent and , in
themselves unpredictable, drivers.  Stock and currency markets are
good examples of such a theatre.  In this case there may be some
characteristic patterns which are the result, not of the external
drivers, but of the behaviour of the players (human or computer) in
the market.  These can be observed and modelled but random events can
result in different activity.  There are many books about this and
some people claim to make money using purely charts and ignoring the
fundamentals.

Other statistical predictions such as life expectancy, business
profits, etc are more closely associated with the relevant drivers and
a modelling approach may be more useful than a purely statistical
approach.

You are using linefitting which assumes a linear trend.It may be
appropriate but your data may be trending more closely to a non-lineal
curve.  For example inflation has over the long term remained at
around 3.5%.  While this can be shown by a straight line on a chart of
year-on-year inflation rates, plotting prices results in an
exponential curve.  To calculate and predict this you either model the
rate of change and incorporate this into output(price) calculations or
you use a function such as Logest on the price data.

You use the expression "make my analysis more perfect".  I would say
that there are very few situations in real life when a statistical
prediction can be perfect.  The best you can expect is that you will
get nearer to predicting actual outcomes.

If you do a search on Google for "Excel statistical predictions" you
will find there are also many more advanced statistical packages which
can be used with excel.  The drawback is that most of them cost $$.

Sorry - a lot of waffle - hope it helps.

Regards
David Grugeon


On 26 September 2012 03:09,   wrote:
> Dear Excel Gurus ! Hope you guys are doing well... I required some formulas/ 
> functions that can be used for predictive/ forecasting models... Currently I 
> am using slope (linest) and intercept.. But require another formula which can 
> make my analysis more perfect... Thanks in advance !
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Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Formulas for predictive analysis and forecasting

2012-09-25 Thread krishnanm2006
David, first of all thank you for taking time in writing this wonderful 
explanation. It does help a lot!

The motive behind using the  expression "make my analysis more perfect" can be 
better explained in the following example..

Let's consider a weekly volume trend  and just as an example let's assume that 
the volumes trends down every alternate week 

Now if we see  the predictive model, for the coming weeks the volume should 
trend the same way i.e downward every alternate week.. However its showing the 
other way round,which is possible but not 100% accurate. 

Krishnan
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Subject: Re: $$Excel-Macros$$ Formulas for predictive analysis and forecasting

This is not my area of expertise but I will give you a few pointers.
There are probably statisticians in the group who can improve, or may
disagree with what I am saying.

It depends what you are predicting.  You need to understand the data
and the theatre in which you are observing them.  If possible you need
to understand what the drivers are and model the impact the drivers
have on the output.

Sometimes you are dealing with a complex system such as a perfect
market which has a substantial quantity of independent and , in
themselves unpredictable, drivers.  Stock and currency markets are
good examples of such a theatre.  In this case there may be some
characteristic patterns which are the result, not of the external
drivers, but of the behaviour of the players (human or computer) in
the market.  These can be observed and modelled but random events can
result in different activity.  There are many books about this and
some people claim to make money using purely charts and ignoring the
fundamentals.

Other statistical predictions such as life expectancy, business
profits, etc are more closely associated with the relevant drivers and
a modelling approach may be more useful than a purely statistical
approach.

You are using linefitting which assumes a linear trend.It may be
appropriate but your data may be trending more closely to a non-lineal
curve.  For example inflation has over the long term remained at
around 3.5%.  While this can be shown by a straight line on a chart of
year-on-year inflation rates, plotting prices results in an
exponential curve.  To calculate and predict this you either model the
rate of change and incorporate this into output(price) calculations or
you use a function such as Logest on the price data.

You use the expression "make my analysis more perfect".  I would say
that there are very few situations in real life when a statistical
prediction can be perfect.  The best you can expect is that you will
get nearer to predicting actual outcomes.

If you do a search on Google for "Excel statistical predictions" you
will find there are also many more advanced statistical packages which
can be used with excel.  The drawback is that most of them cost $$.

Sorry - a lot of waffle - hope it helps.

Regards
David Grugeon


On 26 September 2012 03:09,   wrote:
> Dear Excel Gurus ! Hope you guys are doing well... I required some formulas/ 
> functions that can be used for predictive/ forecasting models... Currently I 
> am using slope (linest) and intercept.. But require another formula which can 
> make my analysis more perfect... Thanks in advance !
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