RE: Hi

[Ed Crowley]

EMA?!  LOL!

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Matteson
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Craig:

Maybe you need to move up the ladder to one of the messaging
industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than
sticking with MEC.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

- Original Message -
From: Dupler, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC.  I'm more of an
Exchange fan than they are . . .

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RE: Read-only mailbox

[Ed Crowley]

Do like you do to your customers:  Charge him a $3 fee every time he sends a
message!

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox


OK, that sounds like a possibility.  Now is there a limit on the number of
people that can have permissions to one mailbox?  I was asked about setting
this up for several hundred people.   I was kind of hoping I could do it
for the entire corporation, as it would make my life much easier :-)

Harold Waisel

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Read-only mailbox


Standard issue mailbox. Give everyone User permissions to the mailbox, but
remove the SEND AS permission. This way they can access the mailbox, but
can't send anything.


John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral;
begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil,
it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do
not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning
violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night
already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do
that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



-Original Message-
From: WAISEL, HAROLD B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Read-only mailbox


Is it possible to give a person a read-only mailbox?  We have a business
unit who'd like to be able to send notifications to people, but not allow
them to send anything out.  We don't have OWA, so I don't believe Anonymous
access to a public folder can apply.  I suggested using a web page for
announcements, but I was asked to follow up on this first.

I tried setting the Outgoing Message size limit to 0 kb on the Limits tab
in Exch Admin, but that didn't seem to work.  I was still able to send a
message.

Exchange 5.5, SP4
Outlook 2000

Thanks,

Harold B Waisel
Messaging and Collaborative Computing
FleetBoston Financial
617.434.4201 (w)
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RE: Please help with SMTP routing issue

[Ed Crowley]

If you don't need IMS routing to support POP3 and IMAP4 clients, you can
turn routing off and I believe that will fix your problem becuase your
Exchange server won't think it owns the domain.

A better answer is to create custom recipients for the Unix users with an
outbound address in the servername.mail.com domain.  Then you have a unified
directory for all users.  That's a selling point to get the Unix mail users
migrated, and makes migration easier to manager in other ways.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Please help with SMTP routing issue


That's because your exchange thinks that it is the owner of mail.com domain.
Anything with a mail.com domain extension is assumed to be an internal user.
Exchange then tries to resolve the email address to a recipient and it fails
since there is no such user on the exchange side.

Since you're moving away from sendmail, you may want to add a subdomain to
your clients defined only on the unix box such as unix.mail.com and then put
a routing statement in the Connections tab of IMS.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Craigster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Please help with SMTP routing issue


I need some help with an SMTP routing issue.  I have two separate mail
systems on the same LAN, migrating from UNIX sendmail to MS Exchange 5.5.
Both systems are using the same mail.com domain for addressing.  For
example, both servers use addresses in the format [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Essentially, any incoming email is parsed through the UNIX Sendmail
bridgehead server aliases and distributed from there.  The UNIX server is
my domain MX.  My problem is this...every time I use SMTP from Exchange to
send an email to someone on the UNIX mail system ([EMAIL PROTECTED], for
example) the exchange server returns the message as undeliverable (this
account only exists on the UNIX system, not on the Exchange server).  It
looks at itself for mail.com accounts, I am guessing, and for some
reason doesn't then go out and use the MX for the domain to send the
message to my UNIX bridgehead server.  Using Exchange RPC or OWA works
without a problem, but SMTP messages don't reach the UNIX machine.  Any
ideas???  Thanks people...

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RE: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting

[Ed Crowley]

If I hadn't read the entire thread first, I was going to answer that your
users are lying to you.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting


I'd like to close the thread on this one.  I was unable to duplicate the
error and, as it turns out, it was one particular spread sheet that was sent
around with changes several times.  Impossible to isolate so I'm calling it
a user problem for now.

Sorry to distract you all.  You may now proceed to your regularly scheduled
stuff.

Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting


What happens when they send it to themselves?

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting


 No, no macros per se.  Headers, footers, pagination, stuff like that.

 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:36 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting


 What are the special formatting they are using? Marcos?

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:46 PM
 Subject: RE: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting


  They are all Office XP.  The senders and recievers are internal.
 
  Bill Lambert
  Endoxy Healthcare
  847-941-9206
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting
 
 
  What are the receiving folks using for their Office versions? One
  issue
 with
  being on the cutting edge of office versions is that more often then
  not, the receivers are not on it, and formatting wackiness ensues.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Spreadsheets Losing Formatting
 
 
  My users are complaining that certain features saved to a .xls are
  being lost when sent via email.  In particular, headers, footers and
  page
 sizing.
 
  The environment is E5.5 SP4 on NT4 SP6a.  Clients are Outlook XP
  (Office
  XP) on W2K machines.
 
  Any ideas on why this occurs?
 
  TIA.
 
 
 
 
  Bill Lambert, MCP,MCSE
 
 
  Network Consultant
  Endoxy Healthcare
  847-941-9206
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??

[Ed Crowley]

Spell checkers are for wimps.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??


Curious factoid - My spel chucker suggests that Siesta is the correct
spelling for Seielstad. Coincidence? I think not.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??


That's really a consulting question - much more in depth that you're going
to get out of a mailing list like this.

I can recommend some very good folks, depending on where you are located.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:58 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Best solution for merging EX servers??
 
 
 Scenario
 ---
 
 Company X has merged with company Y.
 
 Company X has 2 locations:
   East Coast  - 1 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, responsible for
 X.com domain's mail
   UK -   NONE (Using East coast mail
 server via Internet)
 Company Y has 2 locations:
   West Coast -  1 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, responsible for
 Y-west.com domain's mail
   East Coast  -  2 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, 
 responsible for
 Y-east.com domain's mail
 
 Following is the connections between these sites:
 
   X - Y(East) :   512kbps (FR)
   Y(West) - Y(East) : 256kbps (FR)
   Y(East) - FR Cloud :512kbps (FR)
   
 X and Y(West) have to go through Y(East) to connect to Internet.
 
 (There are additional/backup Internet connections as follows:)
 
   X - Internet(backup):   384kbps (DSL)
   X(UK) - Internet:   128kbps (ISDN)
   Y(East) - Internet: 768kbps (T1)
 
 Needs
 
 
 1- The new company has taken the name X and wants all
 employees in all 3
 locations to receive email
  sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This should be done without any or 
 minimum email
 service interruption.
 
 2- Provide a fault-tolerant solution, in case one of the EX
 servers goes
 down or loses it's Internet connection.
 
 3- Company wants to move EX2K at some point in the future.
 Should it wait to
 merge first and
 then migrate or migrate first and then merge?
 
 
 
 Solutions
 ---
 
 1- What type of connector and why?
 2- How should the DNS MX records be arranged?
 3- What are pluses  minuses for each merge now versus migrate now 
 scenarios?
 
 
 
 Let me know if you need more information.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

[Ed Crowley]

What limit should they have put?  $2,100?  $20,000?  So easy for you to make
this call with 20-20 hindsight.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


Yeah, but is a 28MPH impact hard enough?

Ford's  Lee Iacocca's $2000 limit for the Pinto caused at least 500 people
to burn to death needlessly.

See http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/SO77/dowie.html for more
information.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because



Everyone I've known who owned a Ford Pinto liked their car.  Remember, the
Pinto was a two-thousand-dollar car.  Every car, even a Mercedes, will blow
up if you plow into it hard enough.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Scott
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
 Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's*
 mistakes?  I paid good money for their software; it is
 unreasonable to expect it to be secure in the default configuration?

 You're just being a troll like Shawn now right?  If you're not going to
 add anything useful to the conversation, why even have it?

  Alright, I will concede that was a bit heated, but that attitude really
irks me.

  Some customers demand insecure features.  Granted.  Historically,
Microsoft has implemented those insecure features by default, leading to
security problems for everyone.  Other customers have demanded products
designed with security in mind.  Microsoft blames the problem on customers
not installing fixes.

  Am I the only one who sees the inconsistency with this?  Why does
Microsoft only listen to the demands of customers who want insecurity?  Why
don't the demands of people who want more secure products count?

  My issue is not with installing updates or correcting insecure defaults.
I am perfectly capable of doing so, thank you very much.  My issue is that
the problem does not appear to be caused simple programming errors, but
through a continued disregard for security on the part of Microsoft.  That
makes my job harder than it needs to be, and that is not something I like.

  To use an analogy, when I buy a car, I do not expect to have to remove a
bolt mounted behind the gas tank to prevent the vehicle from exploding when
involved in a rear-end impact.

  Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft appears to be waking
up to the fact that producing the software equivalent of a Ford Pinto is not
a practice that instills customer loyalty.

--
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RE: Search function in OWA?

[Roberto Glavich]

I´m using Exchange 2000
 
Yeah, looking forward for the SP2.
 
Thanks for the answer
 
/Roberto

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RE: Upgrade and move

[Ed Crowley]

You've just asked what I call a consulting engagement question.  Someone
could write a book on this topic.  In fact, several people have.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Louanne Fournier
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrade and move


Hi,

I have a question about my upgrade to Exchange 2k.  I am sure this is
probably documented somewhere but I can't seem to find anything that details
this specifically.  We are not only upgrading our Exchange but upgrading our
Win NT machines to W2k.  We have 10 servers in total.  I have two new
servers, which I am using to test the upgrade of W2k and Exchange 2k.  I
have started from scratch, built these two machines with the same domain
name and machine names as my PDC and Exchange Server in my live system.
Here comes the question:  I am going to install Exchange and then move the
mailboxes over.  To move the mailboxes over does my old Exchange Server have
to be part of my new test domain?  If so could I temporarily move my
Exchange server to the new domain, do the migration of mailboxes etc and
then move it back to my live system?  Am I over complicating things here?

Thanks in advance!


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software  Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)

[Ed Crowley]

Your answer for outbound fails to mention that the address space must be
clownpenis.fart.  Don't ask why, it just has to be that.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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Compaq Computer
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)


What business goal are you actually trying to accomplish here?

Going on the assumption you want in inbound only (no outbound) or outbound
only (no inbound) connector. Technically it probably can be done, but it
isn't going to be very clean.

For inbound only, you should be able to put a delivery restriction on the
connector and set it to only accept from the listed recipients, then don't
list any.

For outbound, you can set a bogus address space that is too specific for any
messge to match.

Roger
--
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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Olivier de Heer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)


 Dear anyone,

 Does anyone know a way to configure an Exchange 5.5 X400
 Connector so that
 it only accepts incoming or outgoing traffic instead of both ways?

 Thanks in advance,

 Olivier

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RE: manual

[Ed Crowley]

I can recommend:  http://www.nlearnseries.com/

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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Compaq Computer
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kim Schotanus
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: manual


Where can I find an easy to use manual for Outlook 2000 and 98 to hand
out to users?

Kim

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Track why a bounce happens?

[Ed Crowley]

Which Exchange?  In the IMS properties you can direct copies of all NDRs to
a postmaster mailbox.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
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There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred W.
Macondray Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Track why a bounce happens?


Hi All,

I have some of my users using our Exchange server as an smtp server for
POP mail while I migrate them to Exchange.  Occasionally someone gets a
bounce message for a known good address, and the MTA reports a failure.

How can I track down a detailed record of the bounce on the Exchange
server?  Is there a way to set up this type of logging on Exchange?

I'd like to be able to put in the email address in question and find a
log.

Thanks in advance,
Fred


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RE: Someone has to know the answer to this?

[Ed Crowley]

Someone does and someone told you.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Saul Gonzalez
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Someone has to know the answer to this?


Someone has to know the answer to this?


-Original Message-
From: Saul Gonzalez 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Organizational Forms Permissions

Does anyone know how to give a standard user permissions to publish to
the Organizational Forms?

Thanks
Saul



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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

[Martin Tuip]

We're talking about safe cars here?? My fiancee survived a crash last
week where she got hit in the back by an 18 wheeler .. Hit the tunnel
wall and flipped over and walked away with a few bruises. Now .. I've
done some researches on crashtests last week and apparently the Chrysler
Voyager, the current model which costs twice the amount then my fiancees
car was is nearly always fatal for the driver in a head-on collision so
an expensive car doesn't mean it is safe also ;)



Martin Tuip
Exchange 2000 Listowner
www.exchange-mail.org

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


What limit should they have put?  $2,100?  $20,000?  So easy for you to
make this call with 20-20 hindsight.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


Yeah, but is a 28MPH impact hard enough?

Ford's  Lee Iacocca's $2000 limit for the Pinto caused at least 500
people to burn to death needlessly.

See http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/SO77/dowie.html for more
information.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because



Everyone I've known who owned a Ford Pinto liked their car.  Remember,
the Pinto was a two-thousand-dollar car.  Every car, even a Mercedes,
will blow up if you plow into it hard enough.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
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delegate access to 2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox

[Robert Ellis]

Title: delegate access to 2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox





We have 2 users on exchange 2000, both of whom have given inbox delegate access to a 5.5 user in another site within the exchange org.

The 5.5 user can open 1 users inbox, but not the other.

The 2000 users have the same permissions set on their mailbox. The 5.5 user can send mail to both 2000 users ok.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Rob Ellis

Messaging Consultant

Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes

IBM Global Services

DDI: 01256 752845

Mobile: 07974 111867

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OT - Latin Lesson

[Elizabeth Farrell]

Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

[Chetwood, Rachel]

what car did she have? I think I want one too!
Good to hear she's okay.
cheers
Rachel

 --
 From: Martin Tuip[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 14 November 2001 09:08
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 We're talking about safe cars here?? My fiancee survived a crash last
 week where she got hit in the back by an 18 wheeler .. Hit the tunnel
 wall and flipped over and walked away with a few bruises. Now .. I've
 done some researches on crashtests last week and apparently the Chrysler
 Voyager, the current model which costs twice the amount then my fiancees
 car was is nearly always fatal for the driver in a head-on collision so
 an expensive car doesn't mean it is safe also ;)
 
 
 
 Martin Tuip
 Exchange 2000 Listowner
 www.exchange-mail.org
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 What limit should they have put?  $2,100?  $20,000?  So easy for you to
 make this call with 20-20 hindsight.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 Tech Consultant
 Compaq Computer
 There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 Yeah, but is a 28MPH impact hard enough?
 
 Ford's  Lee Iacocca's $2000 limit for the Pinto caused at least 500
 people to burn to death needlessly.
 
 See http://www.mojones.com/mother_jones/SO77/dowie.html for more
 information.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 
 Everyone I've known who owned a Ford Pinto liked their car.  Remember,
 the Pinto was a two-thousand-dollar car.  Every car, even a Mercedes,
 will blow up if you plow into it hard enough.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 Tech Consultant
 Compaq Computer
 There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.
 
 
 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

[Kuminda Chandimith]

Here comes the programmes view. 

Do you Know that we programmers wish how much MS could do more.. to make it
easy to programming. I've seen Lotus and MS both in Development stages. Do
you know how difficult for you to bring up a form in MS when compared to
Lotus. 

We do complain MS, lack of security, that's lack of control for programmers
on security in outlook/Exchange. if Microsoft wish to consider security on
exchange I'd say give a better control and a API to programmers.

I still wish for Field level security in an Public Folder document. Which
integrates with AD.  (but that's a different thread)

If one really need to make MS a closed system, I've seen number of scripts
that converts a NT box to a Unix type box. Denied access until granted.
Add the line , Run security Script Deny ALL add the end Of your windows
installation procedure. :-)


Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 November 2001 23:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
 For a developer having to write 600 lines of code to make sure
 everything is set right before launching the form would be an enormous
 amount of work compared to editing a key to allow .exe files to show up.
 Granted that may be the more secure way of doing things, but then people
 may not want to develop for that platform.

 Microsoft made a lot of money off Windows and Office being extremely
 easy to develop for and use. With that there is security risks.

  I think you make a good point.  What may have been a good approach in the
short term (very easy to work with, but insecure) is not so good in the long
term (it is still insecure, leading to many upset customers).  I wonder,
what happens next?  Microsoft has said they will be moving to make things
more secure.  Assuming they follow through, does that mean people will move
away to easier-but-less-secure platforms, restarting a cycle?  Or will it
mean security becomes a fundamental for Windows/Office programming (which, I
would argue, it should be)?

  Would people still like Exchange so much, if it was more secure but less
convenient?  I know *I* certainly would, but I'm not an Exchange programmer.
I wonder, how hard would it be to design a model that is secure by default,
but easily opens up access to software with the proper authorizations?  I
suspect that would require moving most of the scripting intelligence into
the server, where it can be protected better.  Anyone here who knows more
about Exchange programming than I (i.e., just about anyone) have any
comments on that?

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Volume of traffic thru the MTA?

[Olds, Dominic]

Hi all 
I have received a request for information on the number of emails going thru
our mail system on a daily basis, preferably separated by external/internal
destinations. As I don't normally log the MTA unless there's a problem, is
there any way of getting this info? 
Thanks in advance 
Dominic


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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

[Kuminda Chandimith]

SQLServer have SMTP support !!
Enterprise messaging ..??


:-)



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Ducont.com FZ-LLC
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Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 11:42
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


This bring to mind the presentation I saw at an EMA conference maybe five
years ago.  Marc Andreesen (remember him?) touting the superiority of his
employer's open standard e-mail system over Microsoft's legacy e-mail
system.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!



http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/2003/tc/ellison_aims_for_microsoft_s_e-m
ail_crown_1.html


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RE: Volume of traffic thru the MTA?

[Joyce, Louis]

Article Q168906 may help you.

The unbounded interop log may be the most useful for what you are trying to
acheive. 

Still needs you to count though.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




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From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 10:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Volume of traffic thru the MTA?


Hi all 
I have received a request for information on the number of emails going thru
our mail system on a daily basis, preferably separated by external/internal
destinations. As I don't normally log the MTA unless there's a problem, is
there any way of getting this info? 
Thanks in advance 
Dominic


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RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!

[Adrian AT. Teodorescu]

Yes !
Oracle sucks
Unix I  Linux are for dumb
Macintosh is a stupid toy !

GOD save Microsoft to give us a powerful OS stable intelligent plug and
pray (sorry play) with a lot o buttons to press !

Slurp Slurp !

/me



-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


SQLServer have SMTP support !!
Enterprise messaging ..??


:-)



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RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??

[Roger Seielstad]

Let's not forget that the Roger Ex-Merge Seielstad tool works best when
used in conjunction with the Jeff Mr. CSV Eskens add-on.

Please note that the Jeff Mr. CSV Eskens add-on tends to mutter I'm just
a fvcking contractor and requires large quantities of a substance known as
MGD, in even numbers only.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??
 
 
 I generally use the Roger Ex-Merge Seielstad tool in 
 situations like this.
 It's not a perfect tool, it does tend to whine and demand 
 being fed on a
 regular basis, but it also gets the job done. For the right 
 price I might be
 willing to rent you the tool (price includes my small 
 management fee of
 course).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Best solution for merging EX servers??
 
 
 That's really a consulting question - much more in depth that 
 you're going
 to get out of a mailing list like this.
 
 I can recommend some very good folks, depending on where you 
 are located.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
 Senior Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 http://www.peregrine.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:58 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Best solution for merging EX servers??
  
  
  Scenario
  ---
  
  Company X has merged with company Y.
  
  Company X has 2 locations:
  East Coast  - 1 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, responsible for
  X.com domain's mail
  UK -   NONE (Using East coast mail
  server via Internet)
  Company Y has 2 locations:
  West Coast -  1 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, responsible for
  Y-west.com domain's mail
  East Coast  -  2 EX 5.5 SP4 on NT 4, 
  responsible for
  Y-east.com domain's mail
  
  Following is the connections between these sites:
  
  X - Y(East) :   512kbps (FR)
  Y(West) - Y(East) : 256kbps (FR)
  Y(East) - FR Cloud :512kbps (FR)
  
  X and Y(West) have to go through Y(East) to connect to Internet.
  
  (There are additional/backup Internet connections as follows:)
  
  X - Internet(backup):   384kbps (DSL)
  X(UK) - Internet:   128kbps (ISDN)
  Y(East) - Internet: 768kbps (T1)
  
  Needs
  
  
  1- The new company has taken the name X and wants all
  employees in all 3
  locations to receive email
   sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This should be done without any or 
  minimum email
  service interruption.
  
  2- Provide a fault-tolerant solution, in case one of the EX
  servers goes
  down or loses it's Internet connection.
  
  3- Company wants to move EX2K at some point in the future.
  Should it wait to
  merge first and
  then migrate or migrate first and then merge?
  
  
  
  Solutions
  ---
  
  1- What type of connector and why?
  2- How should the DNS MX records be arranged?
  3- What are pluses  minuses for each merge now versus migrate now 
  scenarios?
  
  
  
  Let me know if you need more information.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
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RE: delegate access to 2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox

[Mark Harford]

Title: Message



Trusts? don't rely on transitive trusts if the 55 user is on an NT4 
domain. E2K will be trying to resolve the 55 users mailbox to an NT ACE 
therefore the 55 users NT account must be the primary account and from a domain 
that bothW2K users domains trust.

not 
sure if i've got that the right way around but i hope you see the 
point.

Mark H x50668 

-Original Message-From: Robert Ellis 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 
09:16To: Exchange DiscussionsSubject: delegate access to 
2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox
We have 2 users on exchange 2000, both of 
whom have given inbox delegate access to a 5.5 user in another site within the 
exchange org.
The 5.5 
user can open 1 users inbox, but not the 
other.
The 2000 
users have the same permissions set on their mailbox. The 5.5 user can send mail to both 2000 users ok.
Any ideas?
Regards,
Rob 
Ellis
Messaging 
Consultant
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 Programmes
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RE: Please help with SMTP routing issue

[Roger Seielstad]

Need a little more information.

How EXACTLY is sendmail handling mail for synxis.com, and what are the
entries in the Routing tab of your IMC in Exchange?

Roger
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 -Original Message-
 From: Craigster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Please help with SMTP routing issue
 
 
 I need some help with an SMTP routing issue.  I have two separate mail
 systems on the same LAN, migrating from UNIX sendmail to MS 
 Exchange 5.5. 
 Both systems are using the same mail.com domain for addressing.  For
 example, both servers use addresses in the format [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Essentially, any incoming email is parsed through the UNIX Sendmail
 bridgehead server aliases and distributed from there.  The 
 UNIX server is
 my domain MX.  My problem is this...every time I use SMTP 
 from Exchange to
 send an email to someone on the UNIX mail system ([EMAIL PROTECTED], for
 example) the exchange server returns the message as 
 undeliverable (this
 account only exists on the UNIX system, not on the Exchange 
 server).  It
 looks at itself for mail.com accounts, I am guessing, and for some
 reason doesn't then go out and use the MX for the domain to send the
 message to my UNIX bridgehead server.  Using Exchange RPC or OWA works
 without a problem, but SMTP messages don't reach the UNIX 
 machine.  Any
 ideas???  Thanks people...
 
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decommissioning E2K cluster

[Robert Ellis]

Title: decommissioning E2K cluster





Any gotcha's, etc, for turning off an E2K cluster in a mixed site?

All mailboxes except system and smtp have been moved, and there are no public folders homed on the server.

Regards,

Rob Ellis

Messaging Consultant

Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes

IBM Global Services

DDI: 01256 752845

Mobile: 07974 111867

Fax: 01256 754899

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RE: delegate access to 2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox

[Mark Harford]

Title: Message



Check 
the 55 directory to see what 55 thinks is the PWNT on the E2K mailboxes. 
This should be theADaccount, however if you've migrated these users 
from Exchange 55/NT4, the PWNT may stillbe their old NT4 account. If 
so, change it to be the AD account  ensure that it is listed in the 
permissions as being a proper user (the ADC/migration tools sometimes leave it 
as having custom permissions)

this 
has caused us issues with users opening each others tasks 
folder.

Another thing to check is the permissions list on all the standardf
 olders of the E2K mailbox. If there are any unresolvable mailboxes listed 
(which will show up as /O=org/etc...) then remove them as they will be blocking 
access. this blocking process is similar to that seen when a PF has an 
unresolvable entry.
Mark H x50668 

-Original Message-From: Robert Ellis 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 
12:11To: Exchange DiscussionsSubject: RE: delegate access 
to 2000 mailbox by 5.5 mailbox

Both win2k/exchange 2k 
users are in the same domain, which has a transitive trust with the AD 
domain.

Bit of an update  If 
the 5.5 user creates an outlook profile pointing to the 2000 problem mailbox, 
they get into the mailbox no problem, so it doesnt seem to be a permissions 
issue.

If the 5.5 user tries 
to open the 2000 box as an additional box or other users folder, it still fails. It has to be some weird client 
issue.


Regards, 

Rob 
Ellis Messaging 
Consultant Service 
Delivery Solutions  Programmes IBM 
Global Services DDI: 
01256 752845 Mobile: 
07974 111867 Fax: 
01256 754899 Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original 
Message-From: Mark Harford 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:04P
 MTo: 
Exchange 
DiscussionsSubject: RE: delegate access to 2000m
 ailbox by 5.5 mailbox


Trusts? 
don't rely on transitive trusts if the 55 user is on an NT4 domain. E2K 
will be trying to resolve the 55 users mailbox to an NT ACE therefore the 55 
users NT account must be the primary account and from a domain that 
bothW2K users domains trust.



not sure 
if i've got that the right way around but i hope you see the 
point.


Mark 
H x50668 

-Original 
Message-From: Robert Ellis 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 09:16To: Exchange DiscussionsSubject: delegate access to 2000 mailbox by 
5.5 mailbox
We have 2 users on exchange 2000, 
both of whom have given inbox delegate access to a 5.5 user in another sitew
 ithin the exchange org.
The 5.5 user can open 1 users inbox, 
but not the other.
The 2000 users have the samep
 ermissions set on their mailbox. The 5.5 user can send mail to both 2000 
users ok.
Any 
ideas?
Regards,
Rob 
Ellis
Messaging 
Consultant
Service Delivery 
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 11867
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RE: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)

[Roger Seielstad]

I didn't want to steal your thunder.

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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)
 
 
 Your answer for outbound fails to mention that the address 
 space must be
 clownpenis.fart.  Don't ask why, it just has to be that.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 Tech Consultant
 Compaq Computer
 There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral 
 problems.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger 
 Seielstad
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:02 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)
 
 
 What business goal are you actually trying to accomplish here?
 
 Going on the assumption you want in inbound only (no 
 outbound) or outbound
 only (no inbound) connector. Technically it probably can be 
 done, but it
 isn't going to be very clean.
 
 For inbound only, you should be able to put a delivery 
 restriction on the
 connector and set it to only accept from the listed 
 recipients, then don't
 list any.
 
 For outbound, you can set a bogus address space that is too 
 specific for any
 messge to match.
 
 Roger
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 Senior Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 http://www.peregrine.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Olivier de Heer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: X400 Connector (Ex 5.5)
 
 
  Dear anyone,
 
  Does anyone know a way to configure an Exchange 5.5 X400
  Connector so that
  it only accepts incoming or outgoing traffic instead of both ways?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Olivier
 
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excel attachment could not be found

[Kiran, Murat]

Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found
error. He then save the file as.and then opens it from his pc or
network share.it rules.
He doesnt has the same problem with other attachments (word etc).
From another pc it goes also good.
is this a local office installation problem or?I installed office
already again. but stillno solution.
 is thera another thing that i dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: Conference Room Auto Accept

[Andy David]

Hmmm.. I dont know if that is entirely true. IIRC, you have to install
Outlook on a 5.5 Server if you want to manage routing agents for a workflow
app. And, I know somewhere in Technet there is a Q that states that
installing Outlook 2K on an E2k server is not supported as well. Granted, I
wouldnt do it..(as I like to keep the mail server as clean as possible), but
I dont know if you can make an all encompassing statement such as that.


Andy


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Conference Room Auto Accept


What ever you do.  Do NOT install Outlook on the Exchange server.  There
has been known problems with that configuration.  Because Exchange
Server uses a different MAPI dll than Outlook.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA



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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Joyce, Louis]

is the user on NT? If so, check that he has a temporary internet folder in
his profile.

As per the following article:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q268/7/44.ASP

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 13:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found
error. He then save the file as.and then opens it from his pc or
network share.it rules.
He doesnt has the same problem with other attachments (word etc).
From another pc it goes also good.
is this a local office installation problem or?I installed office
already again. but stillno solution.
 is thera another thing that i dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Cook, David A.]

Does it make any difference if Excel is already open when the user tries
to open the Excel attachment? We the issue with Word that a macro was
launching with Word that was not coded properly thus there was a timeout
issue when opening Word attachments from Outlook if Word was not already
open. Make sure the computer with an issue does not have any Excel
macros loading when Excel launches or when a document is opened. 

-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found
error. He then save the file as.and then opens it from his pc or
network share.it rules.
He doesnt has the same problem with other attachments (word etc).
From another pc it goes also good.
is this a local office installation problem or?I installed office
already again. but stillno solution.
 is thera another thing that i dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Candee Vaglica]

Open Excel, under tools, options - general.
Uncheck Ignore other applications
Good luck.

Candee
MOS+UN 



-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found error. He then save the file
as.and then opens it from his pc or network share.it rules. He doesnt
has the same problem with other attachments (word etc). From another pc it
goes also good. is this a local office installation problem or?I installed
office already again. but stillno solution.  is thera another thing that i
dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Andy David]

Good Luck? Are you implying that Excel is more art than science? ;)


-Original Message-
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: excel attachment could not be found


Open Excel, under tools, options - general.
Uncheck Ignore other applications
Good luck.

Candee
MOS+UN 



-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found error. He then save the file
as.and then opens it from his pc or network share.it rules. He doesnt
has the same problem with other attachments (word etc). From another pc it
goes also good. is this a local office installation problem or?I installed
office already again. but stillno solution.  is thera another thing that i
dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

[Benjamin Scott]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Ed Crowley wrote:
 What limit should they have put?  $2,100?  $20,000?  So easy for you to
 make this call with 20-20 hindsight.

  Of course, Ford knew about the problem *ahead* of time, and still did
*nothing* to correct it.  Let 'em burn was their attitude.  Which is kind
of my beef with Microsoft in some situations.  You are defending a car which
was released with a known design defect that caused it to explode on impact.
I don't know about anyone else here, but that is not the kind of car I want
to drive.  Since so many people here seem to think that kind of behavior in
a product is acceptable, I guess I just have unusual expectations.

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RE: Outlook File As

[Mike Morrison]

I don't think Chris is kidding...

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook File As


Lol


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook File As

Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.

1. Smile.
2. Contact bank.
3. Wire $10,000 to my numbered Swiss bank account.


Chris
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MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook File As


 Chris can you make it for me and send it to me.  Would appreciate it.

 Thanks
 Rich

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook File As

 Absolutely. It's a simple 3 step process.

 1. Write a script in CDO
 2. Assign it to a button
 3. Click button.

 Chris
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!


  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:31 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Outlook File As
 
 
 
 
  How To:
Have Outlook 2000 File everything as last name, first
  name, company without going to every single contact and
 changing it in
  the file as box.  Is there a way to change this with one click of a
  button for a public contact folder that contains contacts.

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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Candee Vaglica]

Depends
;)

Candee
MOS+UN 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: excel attachment could not be found


Good Luck? Are you implying that Excel is more art than science? ;)


-Original Message-
From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: excel attachment could not be found


Open Excel, under tools, options - general.
Uncheck Ignore other applications
Good luck.

Candee
MOS+UN



-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found error. He then save the file
as.and then opens it from his pc or network share.it rules. He doesnt
has the same problem with other attachments (word etc). From another pc it
goes also good. is this a local office installation problem or?I installed
office already again. but stillno solution.  is thera another thing that i
dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Tim Ault]

Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?

('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson



Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Elizabeth Farrell]

Cecil Adams...who he?

URL is down.

Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti

Regards
E.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?

('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson



Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Elizabeth Farrell]

did you mean: http://www.straightdope.com/

You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :)

E.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?

('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson



Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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RE: excel attachment could not be found

[Martin Blackstone]

That's it! I was trying to remember that.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Candee Vaglica
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: excel attachment could not be found


Open Excel, under tools, options - general.
Uncheck Ignore other applications
Good luck.

Candee
MOS+UN



-Original Message-
From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: excel attachment could not be found


Brothers and Sisters,

IOne of my manager has the following problem:

When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel
file and he gets : file can not be found error. He then save the file
as.and then opens it from his pc or network share.it rules. He
doesnt
has the same problem with other attachments (word etc). From another pc
it
goes also good. is this a local office installation problem or?I
installed
office already again. but stillno solution.  is thera another thing that
i
dont see.

exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client.

gr

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Benjamin Scott]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Elizabeth Farrell wrote:
 You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :)

  Spell cheque dew knot work write.

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RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

[MS Exchange Forum]

Yep...  SRS is running.

Kevin Fletcher
Enterprise GroupWare Specialist
SSCI


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-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

Oops.. Missed it was single site. My mistake.

Is the SRS service running?

--
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 -Original Message-
 From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 
 Roger,
 
 Sorry if this seems like a stupid question...
 
 When you have a mixed site (basically two servers within the 
 same site - 5.5
  2000), where would you find that connection information 
 between the two
 server to be able to change it?
 
 Kevin Fletcher
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 Sounds like there is a configuration error at one end of that x.400
 connector.
 
 My guess is that either the X.400 standards settings 
 (version/year, two way
 alternate, etc) are set wrong, or there is a name resolution 
 issue between
 the servers. Make sure the X.400's are using IP addresses, 
 not FQDN's or
 hostnames, when referring to the machine at the other end of the link.
 
 Roger
 --
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 Senior Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
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 http://www.peregrine.com
 
 
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  From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:20 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
  
  
  Chris,
  
  No... It just sits in the x.400 queue when I try to send a 
  message from
  Exchange 2000 to a mailbox on the 5.5 server.
  
  Kevin Fletcher
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:25 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
  
  
  Does mail flow the other way?
  
  Chris
  -- 
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  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:20 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Mail not flowing in mixed site
   
   
   I added the first Exchange 2000 server to our Org... The ADC 
   is working properly... I see new mailboxes that are added to 
   5.5 as well as 2000.
   
   The problem I'm having is that when I try to send a message 
   from a mailbox on the Exch 5.5 server to a mailbox on the 
   Exch 2000 server I get the following error.
   
   
   
  
 +
   Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
   
   Subject: test
   Sent: 11/7/01 3:53 PM
   
   The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
   
   Andrew Fletcher on 11/7/01 3:53 PM
   The recipient name is not recognized
   The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
   ;p=ORG;l=SERVER-011107205237Z-69415
   MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:CORPEXCH:ISNT1
   +
   
   I see the Exch 2000 mailbox in my Exch 5.5 GAL... It's almost 
   like the link between the two Exchange server is not 
   running... Again, this is a Mixed site 2000 and 5.5 and the 
   connection should be seamless. Right?
   
   Help! grin
   
   Thanks,
   
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Suggestions would help thanks

[Tener, Richard]

We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line. 


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows 2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Mellott, Bill]

Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain to a
mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail to
go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

[Kelly_Borndale]

I know I should not feed trolls, but have you ever considered any of
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We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida
office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line.


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows
2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old
computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

[Joyce, Louis]

OWA and an FTP server in NY.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Suggestions would help thanks





We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line. 


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows 2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Kevin Miller]

You don’t wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your user for
mail to go there. You can direct bad email like NDR's and such to a mail
box, normally the admin box. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain
to a mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail
to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

[Renouf, Phillip]

Or Checkpoint. There should definitely be a firewall/vpn here which you
could use to run the Netware connectors to allow the Florida netware users
access to your NY NT network and vice versa.

Phil

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:51 AM
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 Subject: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks 
 
 I know I should not feed trolls, but have you ever considered any of
 SonicWall's fine products?

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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

[Andy David]

Heck, with a T1 and only four users, why not just use the full Outlook
client and use offline sync if necessary...


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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


OWA and an FTP server in NY.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Suggestions would help thanks





We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line. 


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows 2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

[Tener, Richard]

Someone suggested Blackice. I said nah rather use sonic wall.

-Original Message-
From: Renouf, Phillip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks


Or Checkpoint. There should definitely be a firewall/vpn here which you
could use to run the Netware connectors to allow the Florida netware users
access to your NY NT network and vice versa.

Phil

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:51 AM
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 Subject: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks 
 
 I know I should not feed trolls, but have you ever considered any of
 SonicWall's fine products?

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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Mellott, Bill]

so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be on the left
side of the @ to the users
address E-mail properties?

I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side of the @
but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM


I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, there no similar
in exch?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail 

You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your user for
mail to go there. You can direct bad email like NDR's and such to a mail
box, normally the admin box. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain
to a mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail
to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

[Tener, Richard]

I was thinking of using lmhost file on win 98 machine to connect to VPN.
Then they can access the exchange server with the lmhost file. 
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


Heck, with a T1 and only four users, why not just use the full Outlook
client and use offline sync if necessary...


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


OWA and an FTP server in NY.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Suggestions would help thanks





We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line. 


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows 2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Kevin Miller]

Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be on the left
side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?

I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side of the @
but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM


I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, there no
similar in exch?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail 

You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your user for
mail to go there. You can direct bad email like NDR's and such to a mail
box, normally the admin box. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain
to a mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail
to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

[Andy David]

I think we just went off on a tangent.



-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


I was thinking of using lmhost file on win 98 machine to connect to VPN.
Then they can access the exchange server with the lmhost file. 
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


Heck, with a T1 and only four users, why not just use the full Outlook
client and use offline sync if necessary...


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks


OWA and an FTP server in NY.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Suggestions would help thanks





We have our main office in NY and another office in Florida.  Florida office
needs to access NY Network for email and files.

Florida Network:

Novell server (not sure what the version) Cisco router, T1 line and 4
workstations with 98 win.

NY Network:

2 NT4 SP6 servers  1 Server set up with RAS/VPN 10 ports which is a file
server the other server is our exchange 5.5 server.  We have a cisco router
1600 with a T1 line. 


I told my boss to purchase a new server for florida set up with windows 2000
server.  Then the can have their own domain and connect via VPN.  My boss
didnt like that idea because he want to save money and keep the old computer
down there running novell.  Plus he likes the idea of having novell because
when we were hit with the nimda virus in NY the Florida office didnt get
infected because we had novell.

Just some suggestions would help out.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

[Renouf, Phillip]

Checkpoint isn't Blackice, it's Firewall-1. Sonicwall is just as good, but
my preference is Checkpoint.

Phil

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 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks
 
 
 Someone suggested Blackice. I said nah rather use sonic wall.

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Tom Meunier]

While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 
 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
 
 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and 
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! 
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
 
 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be 
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of 
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and 
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...
 
 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
 
 
 References taken from: A History of the English Language. 
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.
 
 Regards
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Tom,
 
 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
 
 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses 
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years 
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper 
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)
 
 
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RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

[Kelly_Borndale]

All about the buzz words, isn't ?

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Someone suggested Blackice. I said nah rather use sonic wall.

-Original Message-
From: Renouf, Phillip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks


Or Checkpoint. There should definitely be a firewall/vpn here which you
could use to run the Netware connectors to allow the Florida netware users
access to your NY NT network and vice versa.

Phil

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:51 AM
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 Subject: OTRe: Suggestions would help thanks

 I know I should not feed trolls, but have you ever considered any of
 SonicWall's fine products?

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[STEVE BROOK]

If I were to say viri, viruses, virus's, virii, virusus or
bugs  how many people intelligent enough to read this list would not
know what I was talking about???

SB

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 
 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
 
 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! 
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
 
 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of 
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and 
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...
 
 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the 
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
 
 
 References taken from: A History of the English Language.
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.
 
 Regards
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Tom,
 
 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
 
 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years 
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)
 
 
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Tom Meunier]

And you can extend that too interchanging they're, their, and there, and
their likely two figure it out, to.  It may push some of they're pet
peeve buttons, though.

 -Original Message-
 From: STEVE BROOK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:04 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
 Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 If I were to say viri, viruses, virus's, virii, virusus or
 bugs  how many people intelligent enough to read this list would not
 know what I was talking about???
 
 SB
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 While we're picking nits.
 
 vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so 
 rare a usage
 as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long 
 after Latin
 had become a solely academic language.
 
 Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand 
 alii rather
 than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist 
 on not using
 viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
 well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
  Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
  
  
  
  Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
  
  Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
  plural. One
  phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! 
  Especially anyone who
  had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
  
  Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
  full of youth.
  (Just like this list!)
  This is where the English virulent (with a bit of 
  intervention from German
  and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and 
  this is how
  the word virus made it into the English language...
  
  and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the 
  widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
  
  
  References taken from: A History of the English Language.
  Albert C. Baugh 
  Thomas somebody-or-other.
  
  Regards
  E.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
  snip
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  Tom,
  
  Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
  
  If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
  is Irusesvavy
  or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years 
  since I last
  read Latin.
  If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
  http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
  Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
  Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
  English.  Viri
  is proper Latin.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
   In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
   In English, the multiple is Viruses.
  
   So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
  
  
   Actually I think it is Virii
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
  
  
   amateur grammar police
  
   Get the virus's what?
  
   Oh, you mean viruses.
  
   /amateur grammar police
  
   :-)
  
  
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RE: Upgrade and move

[Louanne Fournier]

Could you suggest one that deals with my situation directly?  I willing to
do the reading/work/searching.  I just haven't been able to find anything
that describes my particular upgrade problem.

Louanne

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Upgrade and move


You've just asked what I call a consulting engagement question.  Someone
could write a book on this topic.  In fact, several people have.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Louanne Fournier
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrade and move


Hi,

I have a question about my upgrade to Exchange 2k.  I am sure this is
probably documented somewhere but I can't seem to find anything that details
this specifically.  We are not only upgrading our Exchange but upgrading our
Win NT machines to W2k.  We have 10 servers in total.  I have two new
servers, which I am using to test the upgrade of W2k and Exchange 2k.  I
have started from scratch, built these two machines with the same domain
name and machine names as my PDC and Exchange Server in my live system.
Here comes the question:  I am going to install Exchange and then move the
mailboxes over.  To move the mailboxes over does my old Exchange Server have
to be part of my new test domain?  If so could I temporarily move my
Exchange server to the new domain, do the migration of mailboxes etc and
then move it back to my live system?  Am I over complicating things here?

Thanks in advance!


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software  Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Elizabeth Farrell]

Tom,

vir = is interchangeable with viri except when you specifically want to
imply multiples.

There is no such word in Latin as alii. So (altho' not sure, I would say
that alias is not derived from the Latin meaning the same)

No-one was insisting on using anything. You are the first.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson

 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget!
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...

 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


 References taken from: A History of the English Language.
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Tom,

 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)


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RE: Volume of traffic thru the MTA?

[Olds, Dominic]

Thanks loads. Worked like a champ. Well, it satisfied the FD anyway.

thanks again

Dom.

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 11:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Volume of traffic thru the MTA?


Article Q168906 may help you.

The unbounded interop log may be the most useful for what you are trying to
acheive. 

Still needs you to count though.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 10:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Volume of traffic thru the MTA?


Hi all 
I have received a request for information on the number of emails going thru
our mail system on a daily basis, preferably separated by external/internal
destinations. As I don't normally log the MTA unless there's a problem, is
there any way of getting this info? 
Thanks in advance 
Dominic


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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Mellott, Bill]

I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an additional domain

baseline:
my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
exch 5.5 sp3
rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional domain i.e.
FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM
and create a mailbox for a faxuser (I used RIGHTFAX as the user id).

The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX user's mail box.

thus when a user sends a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mail must
go to the user RIGHTFAX mailbox, 
the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be in this case
5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.

Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be since the number
will always change.


RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine indicates that some
scripting, database type stuff and a popper daemon, would be in order to do
what he does for my person mail.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be on the left
side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?

I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side of the @
but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM


I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, there no
similar in exch?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail 

You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your user for
mail to go there. You can direct bad email like NDR's and such to a mail
box, normally the admin box. 

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain
to a mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail
to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Martin Blackstone]

I don't believe you can. You will have to create the email addys you
want and ad them to the users properties.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional domain to my
exchange box(thx guy's)

But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for this domain
to a mail box (yes singular).

Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM

ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, say
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I want the mail
to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...

How do I do a wildcard for this?

thx
bill



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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Randal, Phil]

Computer Weekly in the UK published this gem a
few weeks back.

A senior editor from Bristol Classical Press,
inspired by his fallible spell checker, wrote:

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea

Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong or write
It shows me strait a weigh.

Throw that at your speech recognition software!

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 14:35
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Elizabeth Farrell wrote:
  You wanna use your manual speelcheeker! :)
 
   Spell cheque dew knot work write.
 
 -- 
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Tim Ault]

curse these fingers!! The correct URL is www.straightdope.com.

(geez.. you ever notice that OL2k's Message Recall doesn't work on this
list? Maybe Tener could find out why..)



-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson



Cecil Adams...who he?

URL is down.

Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?

('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson



Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Chris Scharff]

Doesn't RightFax have an Exchange aware fax product?

 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
 and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an additional domain
 
 baseline:
 my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
 exch 5.5 sp3
 rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional 
 domain i.e. FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM and create a mailbox for a 
 faxuser (I used RIGHTFAX as the user id).
 
 The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX 
 user's mail box.
 
 thus when a user sends a message to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mail must go to the user 
 RIGHTFAX mailbox, 
 the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
 the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be 
 in this case 5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.
 
 Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be 
 since the number will always change.
 
 
 RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine 
 indicates that some scripting, database type stuff and a 
 popper daemon, would be in order to do what he does for my 
 person mail.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be 
 on the left side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?
 
 I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side 
 of the @ but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM
 
 
 I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, 
 there no similar in exch?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail 
 
 You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your 
 user for mail to go there. You can direct bad email like 
 NDR's and such to a mail box, normally the admin box. 
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional 
 domain to my exchange box(thx guy's)
 
 But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for 
 this domain to a mail box (yes singular).
 
 Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM
 
 ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, 
 say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I 
 want the mail to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...
 
 How do I do a wildcard for this?
 
 thx
 bill
 
 
 
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Soysal, Serdar]

I think message recall worked for me once before.  Although I'm not 100%
sure.  I was quite drunk and I don't remember so clearly.  I think I was
able to recall a message after those pink monkeys stopped running around and
before somebody started shooting defeathered chicken.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


curse these fingers!! The correct URL is www.straightdope.com.

(geez.. you ever notice that OL2k's Message Recall doesn't work on this
list? Maybe Tener could find out why..)



-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson



Cecil Adams...who he?

URL is down.

Liz...who she? steely glint I'm Elizabeth, nice to meet you Ti

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Hmmm, Liz a ghost writer for Cecil Adams..?

('whazzat?' ref: www.strightdope.com)

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT - Latin Lesson



Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and plural. One
phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! Especially anyone who
had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be full of youth.
(Just like this list!)
This is where the English virulent (with a bit of intervention from German
and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and this is how
the word virus made it into the English language...

and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


References taken from: A History of the English Language. Albert C. Baugh 
Thomas somebody-or-other.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
snip

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Tom,

Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses is Irusesvavy
or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years since I last
read Latin.
If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper English.  Viri
is proper Latin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
 In English, the multiple is Viruses.

 So you are both right as well as pedantic :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 Actually I think it is Virii

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!


 amateur grammar police

 Get the virus's what?

 Oh, you mean viruses.

 /amateur grammar police

 :-)


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OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Murphy, Brian]

Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.

Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with the IE client.
It asks you to install the certificate everytime you visit the page.  Any
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[QUINN, Chris]

Shouldn't that be:

--  well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia.

From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago!

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 14:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 
 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
 
 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and 
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! 
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
 
 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be 
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of 
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and 
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...
 
 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
 
 
 References taken from: A History of the English Language. 
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.
 
 Regards
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Tom,
 
 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
 
 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses 
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years 
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper 
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
 
  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)
 
 
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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Erik Sojka]

stop it Stop It STOP IT!

 -Original Message-
 From: QUINN, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 Shouldn't that be:
 
 --  well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia.
 
 From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 14:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson
 
 
 While we're picking nits.
 
 vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so 
 rare a usage
 as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long 
 after Latin
 had become a solely academic language.
 
 Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand 
 alii rather
 than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist 
 on not using
 viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
 well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:22 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: OT - Latin Lesson
  Subject: OT - Latin Lesson
  
  
  
  Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,
  
  Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and 
  plural. One
  phrase no classics student is ever going to forget! 
  Especially anyone who
  had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)
  
  Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be 
  full of youth.
  (Just like this list!)
  This is where the English virulent (with a bit of 
  intervention from German
  and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and 
  this is how
  the word virus made it into the English language...
  
  and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
  widespread phenomenon we know and love today.
  
  
  References taken from: A History of the English Language. 
  Albert C. Baugh 
  Thomas somebody-or-other.
  
  Regards
  E.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
  snip
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  Tom,
  
  Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right
  
  If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses 
  is Irusesvavy
  or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years 
  since I last
  read Latin.
  If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
  http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
  Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
  Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
  Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper 
  English.  Viri
  is proper Latin.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson
  
   In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
   In English, the multiple is Viruses.
  
   So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
  
  
   Actually I think it is Virii
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
  
  
   amateur grammar police
  
   Get the virus's what?
  
   Oh, you mean viruses.
  
   /amateur grammar police
  
   :-)
  
  
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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Mike Morrison]

First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and provide a little more
detail... I'm not sure what your configuration or problem is. Are you
running all those apps on one box? If so... YIKES!

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
Importance: High


Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.

Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with the IE client.
It asks you to install the certificate everytime you visit the page.  Any
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IM 4.5 for Exchange?

[Dan Bartley]

Has anyone heard anything about a timetable for release of IM client 4.5
for Exchange? The Windows update site has a link and paragraph about the
Exchange version, but it takes you to the 3.5 version download page.

Thanks for any info.

Best Regards, 

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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Mellott, Bill]

yes , and I'm using it too.

I have a unix box which needs to send faxes and the unix/sendmail sends to
the exchange box 
so I try and manage all my email accounts in exch, so I created the e-mail
account for the user rightfax in exch, and the rightfax gateway pop's the
mail from the exch rightfax user mail account

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Doesn't RightFax have an Exchange aware fax product?

 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
 and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an additional domain
 
 baseline:
 my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
 exch 5.5 sp3
 rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional 
 domain i.e. FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM and create a mailbox for a 
 faxuser (I used RIGHTFAX as the user id).
 
 The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX 
 user's mail box.
 
 thus when a user sends a message to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mail must go to the user 
 RIGHTFAX mailbox, 
 the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
 the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be 
 in this case 5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.
 
 Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be 
 since the number will always change.
 
 
 RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine 
 indicates that some scripting, database type stuff and a 
 popper daemon, would be in order to do what he does for my 
 person mail.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be 
 on the left side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?
 
 I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side 
 of the @ but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM
 
 
 I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, 
 there no similar in exch?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail 
 
 You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your 
 user for mail to go there. You can direct bad email like 
 NDR's and such to a mail box, normally the admin box. 
 
 Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional 
 domain to my exchange box(thx guy's)
 
 But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for 
 this domain to a mail box (yes singular).
 
 Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM
 
 ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox, 
 say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I 
 want the mail to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...
 
 How do I do a wildcard for this?
 
 thx
 bill
 
 
 
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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Murphy, Brian]

Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
2. OWA website on W2k OS
3. Metaframe 1.8 Box

User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  Everytime they are
prompted for the Certificate install.


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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and provide a little more
detail... I'm not sure what your configuration or problem is. Are you
running all those apps on one box? If so... YIKES!

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
Importance: High


Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Elizabeth Farrell]

that sentence now reads as as seen in Cicero, Ovid and of the garlic

But never mind Chris, I filled in a crossword puzzle the other day that
Virgil was Grecian.

Now where are the dunces hats? :)

E.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Shouldn't that be:

--  well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia.

From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago!

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson

 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget!
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...

 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


 References taken from: A History of the English Language.
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Tom,

 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)


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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Erik Sojka]

We could tell you but we've been asked to treat that information as
confidential.

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 From: Pomerantz, David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: New startup Page 4 OWA
 Sensitivity: Confidential
 
 
 Can someone help me? I need to put a startup page for my OWA users.  I
 have created a startup1.htm file and need to know where to put it in
 Inetpub.  I am running E2k with Sp1.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
 Network Systems Engineer
 City of Hallandale Beach
 
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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Chris Scharff]

Confidential mail to a public mailing list? 


 -Original Message-
 From: Pomerantz, David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: New startup Page 4 OWA
 Sensitivity: Confidential
 
 
 Can someone help me? I need to put a startup page for my OWA 
 users.  I have created a startup1.htm file and need to know 
 where to put it in Inetpub.  I am running E2k with Sp1.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
 Network Systems Engineer
 City of Hallandale Beach

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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Andy David]

mm
Confidential treats...


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New startup Page 4 OWA
Sensitivity: Confidential


We could tell you but we've been asked to treat that information as
confidential.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pomerantz, David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: New startup Page 4 OWA
 Sensitivity: Confidential
 
 
 Can someone help me? I need to put a startup page for my OWA users.  I
 have created a startup1.htm file and need to know where to put it in
 Inetpub.  I am running E2k with Sp1.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
 Network Systems Engineer
 City of Hallandale Beach
 
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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Pomerantz, David S.]

Let me guess, you were waiting for me to ask another question?

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Posted At: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:47 AM
Posted To: Exchange 2000 Swynk
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Subject: RE: New startup Page 4 OWA
Sensitivity: Confidential


We could tell you but we've been asked to treat that information as
confidential.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pomerantz, David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: New startup Page 4 OWA
 Sensitivity: Confidential
 
 
 Can someone help me? I need to put a startup page for my OWA users.  I
 have created a startup1.htm file and need to know where to put it in
 Inetpub.  I am running E2k with Sp1.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
 Network Systems Engineer
 City of Hallandale Beach
 
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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Murphy, Brian]

Hmmm. How different is E2k from E5.5 SP4.  E5.5 installs OWA as a virtual
directory (/exchange).  You would need to put a default.htm file in the root
directory (look at your IIS MMC).  Use the default.htm to create Hyper's to
the virtual directory.

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From: Pomerantz, David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New startup Page 4 OWA
Sensitivity: Confidential


Can someone help me? I need to put a startup page for my OWA users.  I
have created a startup1.htm file and need to know where to put it in
Inetpub.  I am running E2k with Sp1.

Thanks,

David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
Network Systems Engineer
City of Hallandale Beach

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RE: New startup Page 4 OWA

[Pomerantz, David S.]

Sorry about that it is my default.  Thanks for noticing.


David Pomerantz

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RE: OT - Latin Lesson

[Andy David]

Can we borrow yours?


-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson



that sentence now reads as as seen in Cicero, Ovid and of the garlic

But never mind Chris, I filled in a crossword puzzle the other day that
Virgil was Grecian.

Now where are the dunces hats? :)

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Shouldn't that be:

--  well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia.

From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago!

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson

 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget!
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...

 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


 References taken from: A History of the English Language.
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Tom,

 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)


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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Chris Scharff]

Hmm... Tried asking RightFax?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 yes , and I'm using it too.
 
 I have a unix box which needs to send faxes and the 
 unix/sendmail sends to the exchange box 
 so I try and manage all my email accounts in exch, so I 
 created the e-mail account for the user rightfax in exch, and 
 the rightfax gateway pop's the mail from the exch rightfax 
 user mail account
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Doesn't RightFax have an Exchange aware fax product?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
  and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an 
 additional domain
  
  baseline:
  my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
  exch 5.5 sp3
  rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional
  domain i.e. FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM and create a mailbox for a 
  faxuser (I used RIGHTFAX as the user id).
  
  The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX
  user's mail box.
  
  thus when a user sends a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mail must go to the user 
  RIGHTFAX mailbox, 
  the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
  the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be 
  in this case 5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.
  
  Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be
  since the number will always change.
  
  
  RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine
  indicates that some scripting, database type stuff and a 
  popper daemon, would be in order to do what he does for my 
  person mail.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Mellott, Bill
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be
  on the left side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?
  
  I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side
  of the @ but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM
  
  
  I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail,
  there no similar in exch?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail
  
  You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your
  user for mail to go there. You can direct bad email like 
  NDR's and such to a mail box, normally the admin box. 
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Mellott, Bill
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional
  domain to my exchange box(thx guy's)
  
  But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for
  this domain to a mail box (yes singular).
  
  Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM
  
  ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox,
  say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I
  want the mail to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...
  
  How do I do a wildcard for this?
  
  thx
  bill
  
  
  
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[Elizabeth Farrell]

why sure, but only cos you have proven so beautifully that you need it 
:) 

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Can we borrow yours?


-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

that sentence now reads as as seen in Cicero, Ovid and of the garlic

But never mind Chris, I filled in a crossword puzzle the other day that
Virgil was Grecian.

Now where are the dunces hats? :)

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson

Shouldn't that be:

--  well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alia.

From a knitpicker who failed his last Latin exam 25 years ago!

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - Latin Lesson


While we're picking nits.

vir = man  viri = men or venoms, the latter being so rare a usage
as to never have appeared outside of academic circles, long after Latin
had become a solely academic language.

Ob Exchange Topic:  I suggest hereafter we pedants demand alii rather
than aliases, if we're going to be so snooty as to insist on not using
viruses when speaking English.  At least that is well-known,
well-documented Latin, as seen in Cicero, Ovid, et alii.  :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: OT - Latin Lesson

 Actually Ed, you're a little out ..,

 Viri = A man (usually of Honour) Same word for singular and
 plural. One
 phrase no classics student is ever going to forget!
 Especially anyone who
 had doings with Homer. (Bart...!)

 Virui = To be green or verdant; be lively or vigorous; be
 full of youth.
 (Just like this list!)
 This is where the English virulent (with a bit of
 intervention from German
 and its meaning taken as strong and dangerous) comes from and
 this is how
 the word virus made it into the English language...

 and to bring this topic back to slightly On T., also became the
 widespread phenomenon we know and love today.


 References taken from: A History of the English Language.
 Albert C. Baugh 
 Thomas somebody-or-other.

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 As was the 'u' before the 'ii'.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 snip

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Tom,

 Oops the second 'i' was a mistake..but you are perfectly right

 If you are going to be really pedantic, the latin for Viruses
 is Irusesvavy
 or somesuch. I don't vouch for the spelling as it is 6 years
 since I last
 read Latin.
 If you have the time and the inclination, you can research it on:
 http://www.quicklatin.com/. I'm off to catch the train home :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

 Alumnus.  Alumni.  NOT Alumnuii.
 Incubus.  Incubi.  NOT Incubuii.
 Virus.  Viri.  NOT Viruii.  NOT virii.  Viruses is proper
 English.  Viri
 is proper Latin.

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not! grammar lesson

  In Latin, the multiple of Virus is Viruii
  In English, the multiple is Viruses.
 
  So you are both right as well as pedantic :)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  Actually I think it is Virii
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Oracle to replace Exchange? Not!
 
 
  amateur grammar police
 
  Get the virus's what?
 
  Oh, you mean viruses.
 
  /amateur grammar police
 
  :-)


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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Murphy, Brian]

I have resolved this issue.  Sorry to bother everyone.

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
2. OWA website on W2k OS
3. Metaframe 1.8 Box

User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  Everytime they are
prompted for the Certificate install.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and provide a little more
detail... I'm not sure what your configuration or problem is. Are you
running all those apps on one box? If so... YIKES!

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
Importance: High


Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.

Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with the IE client.
It asks you to install the certificate everytime you visit the page.  Any
suggestions?

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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Chris Scharff]

Care to share the resolution with the rest of the class?

 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 I have resolved this issue.  Sorry to bother everyone.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
 1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
 2. OWA website on W2k OS
 3. Metaframe 1.8 Box
 
 User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  
 Everytime they are prompted for the Certificate install.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and 
 provide a little more detail... I'm not sure what your 
 configuration or problem is. Are you running all those apps 
 on one box? If so... YIKES!
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 Importance: High
 
 
 Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.
 
 Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with 
 the IE client. It asks you to install the certificate 
 everytime you visit the page.  Any suggestions?
 
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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Mellott, Bill]

well yes,Useless comes to mind; on a positive note, he said straight up
that they where clueless and wouldn't/cloud help even about their own smtp
gateway they don't support it

It's really an exchange thing; if I could do the wildcard type thing/have
all mail go to one box in the added domain, I'd be set.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address


Hmm... Tried asking RightFax?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 yes , and I'm using it too.
 
 I have a unix box which needs to send faxes and the 
 unix/sendmail sends to the exchange box 
 so I try and manage all my email accounts in exch, so I 
 created the e-mail account for the user rightfax in exch, and 
 the rightfax gateway pop's the mail from the exch rightfax 
 user mail account
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Doesn't RightFax have an Exchange aware fax product?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
  and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an 
 additional domain
  
  baseline:
  my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
  exch 5.5 sp3
  rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional
  domain i.e. FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM and create a mailbox for a 
  faxuser (I used RIGHTFAX as the user id).
  
  The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX
  user's mail box.
  
  thus when a user sends a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] the mail must go to the user 
  RIGHTFAX mailbox, 
  the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
  the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be 
  in this case 5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.
  
  Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be
  since the number will always change.
  
  
  RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine
  indicates that some scripting, database type stuff and a 
  popper daemon, would be in order to do what he does for my 
  person mail.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Mellott, Bill
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might be
  on the left side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?
  
  I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left side
  of the @ but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM
  
  
  I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail,
  there no similar in exch?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail
  
  You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your
  user for mail to go there. You can direct bad email like 
  NDR's and such to a mail box, normally the admin box. 
  
  Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Mellott, Bill
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an additional
  domain to my exchange box(thx guy's)
  
  But I'm still having problems with directing the e-mail for
  this domain to a mail box (yes singular).
  
  Example: new domain: NEWDOM.COM
  
  ALL e-mail coming into NEWDOM.COM should go to one mailbox,
  say [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  so in other words no matter what is to the left of the @ I
  want the mail to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  so, [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc...and so on...
  
  How do I do a wildcard for this?
  
  thx
  bill
  
  
  
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RE: Issue with IMS and multiple messages

[Bueffel, Scott M - CNF]

Our SMTP virus scanner strips out .exe's but delivers the message.
Sometimes the recipient needs actually needs the .exe so requests it.  The
script takes the original message with the attachment and resends it through
the scanner to scan the .exe and send it on.  But since this is the same as
the first message (only with the attachment) the host's message ID is the
same, so the message would not be delivered.  The UNIX group running the
SMTP server said they think they can have script modify the original message
ID so that it would be sent (when they did it manually the message came
fine).  The question was if there was a need for that, so we wanted to find
out if the message ID was the reason the multiple copies were not delivered.
The thing I don't like about it is the tracking logs show those multiple
message actually being delivered.  Although instances like this are rare, it
can really mess up your message tracking if a log says it was delivered when
it really wasn't.  Thanks, Andy.

Scott.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Issue with IMS and multiple messages


Yes, Exchange does try to prevent a user receiving multiple copies of the
same message.  Take for example a user who is on two separate distribution
lists which are included in the address fields of a message.  Depending on
where those DLs are expanded, there may be two messages routed to the user.
This is picked up by tracking the sender message Id and filtered.

Why is your script generating a messageID?  Why not just leave that header
out and let the receiving system supply a unique ID.

===
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Simpler-Webb, Inc.   Austin, TX512-322-0071
-- Way to go USPS Cycling Team and Lance Armstrong!! --
=== 

-Original Message-
From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Issue with IMS and multiple messages


We have a script sending an SMTP message to our IMS ten times.  Each of the
ten messages is given its own Exchange message ID (as noted in the tracking
logs) and shown to be delivered to the one mailbox that all ten are for.
However only one message actually shows up.  The unique thing here is that
the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages
(intentionally).  The tracking logs show ten messages being accepted and
even routed to other servers successfully, and even delivered.  But I think
that since the originator's message ID is the same for all ten messages only
the first of the ten is actually delivered.  Does store (or the mta) have
some sort of SMTP message ID cache to keep track of messages received?  Keep
in mind that the Exchange message IDs are unique, which means that Exchange
is actually looking inside the message to compare host message IDs.  And it
is not the IMS doing the comparing because the logs show the messages being
routed to other servers on its way to the destination server mailbox.  We
changed the script to modify the original message's host ID and the new one
appeared in the Inbox.  Hmm.  So by deduction I have concluded that
Exchange has some sort of built in message looping/duplication feature to
keep what it thinks as the same message from being delivered multiple times
because of failed TCP/SMTP connections or something where the receiver
things all is well, but the sender doesn't think the message was delivered
successfully so it will try again.  What do you all think?

Scott.

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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Murphy, Brian]

1.  Entered install mode on Metaframe Server.
2.  Connected to Root CA site.
3.  Installed CA Certification Path.

This resolves the issue on a user-by-user basis.  I now trying to figure out
how to make this a global change so that I do not need to perform this
action for each and every user requiring access to owa site.  There might be
a .adm file available.  Anyone else know?


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


Care to share the resolution with the rest of the class?

 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 I have resolved this issue.  Sorry to bother everyone.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
 1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
 2. OWA website on W2k OS
 3. Metaframe 1.8 Box
 
 User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  
 Everytime they are prompted for the Certificate install.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and 
 provide a little more detail... I'm not sure what your 
 configuration or problem is. Are you running all those apps 
 on one box? If so... YIKES!
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 Importance: High
 
 
 Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.
 
 Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with 
 the IE client. It asks you to install the certificate 
 everytime you visit the page.  Any suggestions?
 
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size limits message modification

[Mitchell Mike]

Good morning,

Outlook 98.  Exchange 5.5 sp3.

Where can the Size Limits Exceeded message be modified.  There are some
changes my organization would like to make.  Has anyone had any luck
changing this without paying the big big bucks.

Have a great week.

Regards,


Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: size limits message modification

[Joyce, Louis]

Its hardcoded in exchange im afraid.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 16:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: size limits message modification


Good morning,

Outlook 98.  Exchange 5.5 sp3.

Where can the Size Limits Exceeded message be modified.  There are some
changes my organization would like to make.  Has anyone had any luck
changing this without paying the big big bucks.

Have a great week.

Regards,


Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: size limits message modification

[Martin Blackstone]

It is hard coded into Exchange. You cant change it. Unless you want to
pay big bucks for someone to tear it apart and recode it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mitchell Mike
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: size limits message modification


Good morning,

Outlook 98.  Exchange 5.5 sp3.

Where can the Size Limits Exceeded message be modified.  There are some
changes my organization would like to make.  Has anyone had any luck
changing this without paying the big big bucks.

Have a great week.

Regards,


Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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RE: size limits message modification

[Drewski]

FAQ.  Read it.  Love it.  Live it.

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm

(btw, the answer is no).

-- Drew

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you Do Not Achieve Transcendence but Go Straight to Oblivion; a key to the
understanding of all religion is that a god's idea of amusement is Snakes and
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mitchell Mike
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: size limits message modification


Good morning,

Outlook 98.  Exchange 5.5 sp3.

Where can the Size Limits Exceeded message be modified.  There are some
changes my organization would like to make.  Has anyone had any luck
changing this without paying the big big bucks.

Have a great week.

Regards,


Mike Mitchell
Systems eMAIL Administrator
Alverno Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(317) 532-7800 ext. 6211


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Re: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[John Q Jr.]

Well . . . What was the fix?  What was the problem?  Share man share

- Original Message -
From: Murphy, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


 I have resolved this issue.  Sorry to bother everyone.

 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


 Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
 1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
 2. OWA website on W2k OS
 3. Metaframe 1.8 Box

 User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  Everytime they are
 prompted for the Certificate install.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


 First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and provide a little
more
 detail... I'm not sure what your configuration or problem is. Are you
 running all those apps on one box? If so... YIKES!

 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 Importance: High


 Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.

 Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with the IE
client.
 It asks you to install the certificate everytime you visit the page.  Any
 suggestions?

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RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address

[Chris Scharff]

Not sure I understand how Exchange users send their mail through the
rightmail gateway and why that same method wouldn't work for inbound SMTP
mail?

Chris
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MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 well yes,Useless comes to mind; on a positive note, he 
 said straight up that they where clueless and wouldn't/cloud 
 help even about their own smtp gateway they don't support it
 
 It's really an exchange thing; if I could do the wildcard 
 type thing/have all mail go to one box in the added domain, 
 I'd be set.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:42 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
 
 
 Hmm... Tried asking RightFax?
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  yes , and I'm using it too.
  
  I have a unix box which needs to send faxes and the
  unix/sendmail sends to the exchange box 
  so I try and manage all my email accounts in exch, so I 
  created the e-mail account for the user rightfax in exch, and 
  the rightfax gateway pop's the mail from the exch rightfax 
  user mail account
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:27 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
  
  
  Doesn't RightFax have an Exchange aware fax product?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:20 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
   
   
   I'm try to work with the smtp gateway from Rightfax.
   and the easier way to pass the info to it is via an
  additional domain
   
   baseline:
   my domain say is MYCOMP.COM
   exch 5.5 sp3
   rightfax suggest to make is easier to add an additional domain 
   i.e. FAXGATE.MYCOMP.COM and create a mailbox for a 
 faxuser (I used 
   RIGHTFAX as the user id).
   
   The smtp rightfax gateway POP's the mail from the RIGHTFAX user's 
   mail box.
   
   thus when a user sends a message to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] the 
   mail must go to the user RIGHTFAX mailbox,
   the rightfax smtp gateway will pop the mail from the mail box, 
   the gateway then read's the left side of the @ which would be 
   in this case 5551212 and it knows to send the fax to this number.
   
   Thus you see I will never know what the left side will be 
 since the 
   number will always change.
   
   
   RE:Sendmail, yes a call to a sendmail friend of mine 
 indicates that 
   some scripting, database type stuff and a popper daemon, 
 would be in 
   order to do what he does for my person mail.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
   
   
   Not that I have seen.. What are you trying to do?
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Mellott, Bill
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
   
   
   so i'd have to add any/all possible qualifiers that might 
 be on the 
   left side of the @ to the users address E-mail properties?
   
   I'll never know exactly what is going to be on the left 
 side of the 
   @ but I will always know the right side which is NEWDOM.COM
   
   
   I know these types of wildcards are possible in sendmail, 
 there no 
   similar in exch?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:45 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail
   
   You don't wildcard it. You have to add the addresses to your user 
   for mail to go there. You can direct bad email like NDR's 
 and such 
   to a mail box, normally the admin box.
   
   Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
  Mellott, Bill
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:43 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: 2 domain with wildcard e-mail address
   
   
   Ok I read the FAQ and I understand how to add an 
 additional domain 
   to my exchange box(thx guy's)
   
   But I'm 

SSL 40 bit versus 128 bit on Exchange.

[Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE)]

Exchange 5.5 SP4

One of my tasks in the next week or so is to get SSL installed on Exchange
to allow users to change their passwords via the OWA client.  I was
wondering what everyone's opinion was regarding using a 40 bit versus the
128 bit key for Exchange.   Can I use the 40 bit versus the 128 and is the
128 bit encryption worth the extra money.  We're in a real budget crunch
right now, so we're looking at areas where we can cut costs.  I was also
told that with the 128 bit encryption, some users may be required to upgrade
their browser.  




Pete Pfefferkorn
Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
Fax - (513) 556-2042


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RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8

[Murphy, Brian]

1.  Entered install mode on Metaframe Server.
2.  Connected to Root CA site.
3.  Installed CA Certification Path.

This resolves the issue on a user-by-user basis.  I now trying to figure out
how to make this a global change so that I do not need to perform this
action for each and every user requiring access to owa site.  There might be
a .adm file available.  Anyone else know?


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8


Care to share the resolution with the rest of the class?

 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 I have resolved this issue.  Sorry to bother everyone.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 Sorry for the lack of info.  There are 3 boxes.
 1. Exch 5.5 on W2k OS
 2. OWA website on W2k OS
 3. Metaframe 1.8 Box
 
 User connects to Metaframe box.  Connects to OWA site.  
 Everytime they are prompted for the Certificate install.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 
 
 First suggestion would be to rephrase the question and 
 provide a little more detail... I'm not sure what your 
 configuration or problem is. Are you running all those apps 
 on one box? If so... YIKES!
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA Site in Metaframe 1.8
 Importance: High
 
 
 Exc 5.5 SP4 on W2k.  Metaframe 1.8 SP2 on TS4 SP6.  Running IE 5.0.
 
 Cannot get the certificate from the OWA website to stick with 
 the IE client. It asks you to install the certificate 
 everytime you visit the page.  Any suggestions?
 
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RE: SSL 40 bit versus 128 bit on Exchange.

[Murphy, Brian]

Setup your own root ca.  This should cost you nothing.

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SSL 40 bit versus 128 bit on Exchange.


Exchange 5.5 SP4

One of my tasks in the next week or so is to get SSL installed on Exchange
to allow users to change their passwords via the OWA client.  I was
wondering what everyone's opinion was regarding using a 40 bit versus the
128 bit key for Exchange.   Can I use the 40 bit versus the 128 and is the
128 bit encryption worth the extra money.  We're in a real budget crunch
right now, so we're looking at areas where we can cut costs.  I was also
told that with the 128 bit encryption, some users may be required to upgrade
their browser.  




Pete Pfefferkorn
Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator
University of Cincinnati
51 Goodman Street
Cincinnati, OH  45221
Phone - (513) 556-9076
Fax - (513) 556-2042


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RE: Suggestions would help thanks

[Benjamin Scott]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Joyce, Louis wrote:
 OWA and an FTP server in NY.

  FTP is hideously insecure.  Combine it with a VPN, and yes, that would
work, but the guy already said his boss nixed that idea, and more
importantly, if you have a VPN, why futz around with FTP?  :)

  Personally, I think the OP should revisit the VPN idea.  You don't have to
replace NetWare with Windows 2000 to use a VPN; a couple of VPN appliances
will do the job as well (and likely better).  That solves most of your
problems right there.

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