RE: help

[Kim Schotanus]

and your Exchange server stills runs?

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 May, 2002 8:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


In that case, I'm not wearing pants. Just wanted to let you know.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


I just wanted to let you know...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 May, 2002 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


Congratulations. You've failed to include /any/ useful information in
your
post.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: help
> 
> 
> help !!!
> my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Mikael Andersson]

That patch only applies to Exchange 2000.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: den 30 maj 2002 03:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


Or did you see the recent patch today where the security hole could
cause the process to run at 100%. Patch your server


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kanee
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:13 PM
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Subject: RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


did you ever think your processor just aint cutting it, maybe you should
add another processor

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


Is it causing a problem. Maybe you are getting spammed. They are many
reasons. Maybe it  could be some sending out a mass mailing from their
personal address book

- Original Message -
From: "Yves Soriano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


> Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu.
> We have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but 
> it did not solved the problem.
>
> Any idea?
>
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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025

[Mikael Andersson]

Microsoft have written in their Security Bulletin MS02-25 that no reboot
is needed.
Anyone who have succeed to apply the patch with no reboot?


-Original Message-
From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: den 30 maj 2002 02:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025


In my case I did apply to a test server first. I got could not stop
msexchangesa and could not restart iisadmin services. Not a problem, I
stopped the Exchange services manually, it requires a reboot anyway so
restarting at time of install is not important.

I've had similar services stopping and starting issues with every
Exchange patch for E2k. That's why I test first. So far, 4 hours into
it, no performance problems or loss of services on the test box. That's
the important part. If it continues to be ok under load then I will
apply it to a production server, after stopping all services manually
first (something I learned to do as far back as 4.0).

The important part is that I know what to expect when I apply the patch
in production and that makes for a smooth transition and minimum
downtime.

Best Regards, 
Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 17:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025

Hoooya!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:06 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025


"Customers are advised to review the bulletin and *test* and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable"


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025


Patch was unable to restart 'msexchangesa' and 'msexchangeis'
automatically. Rebooted and all appears to be fine.  

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft
Exchange 2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and
deploy the patch in their environments, if applicable

More information is now available at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

If you have any questions regarding the patch or its implementation
after reading the above listed bulletin you should contact Product
Support Services in the United States at 1-866-PCSafety
(1-866-727-2338). International customers should contact their local
subsidiary.


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RE: PST

[DjG]

Right click personal folders/properties/advanced button/compact now

Dan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jojo Solis
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PST

is there a way to defrag the PST?

thanks!


jojo

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PST

[Jojo Solis]

is there a way to defrag the PST?

thanks!


jojo

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RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Dean Cunningham]

Rubbish service from swynk, that was one of the reasons the majority of the
SMS list on swynk left for topica, (also other reasons) there is no need for
two or more lists as it dilutes they knowledge IMNSHO

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 10:22 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Over the past there have been quite a few issues. It used to be quite
bearable, but the flaws are getting worse unfortunately. The Exchange 2000
list was created 2.5 years ago to discuss Exchange 2000 at the time it was
still in Beta and to keep this list free from the Beta discussions. It kinda
grew and is currently probably the third biggest Exchange discussion list in
the world with 1500+ subscribers.

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- Original Message -
From: "Don Couch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


> So...
>
> This is a regular occurrence here?
>
> I'm new this last week. Lots of good info.
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> Don Couch
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
>
> Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
>
> Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...
>
> ;-}
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
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> Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
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>
> There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this.
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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Christopher Hummert]

Or did you see the recent patch today where the security hole could
cause the process to run at 100%. Patch your server


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kanee
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


did you ever think your processor just aint cutting it, maybe you should
add another processor

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


Is it causing a problem. Maybe you are getting spammed. They are many
reasons. Maybe it  could be some sending out a mass mailing from their
personal address book

- Original Message -
From: "Yves Soriano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


> Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. 
> We have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but 
> it did not solved the problem.
>
> Any idea?
>
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RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?

[kanee]

jeff send your script to move mailboxes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please.

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


I also have a perl-based script that will move mailboxes from a specific
db/server to a specific db/server (or list of dbs).

If you're interested, I'll through it in a zip and send it to ya.

jeff e.



-Original Message-
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


David,

you can move a users mailbox with script, look up CDOEXM

here's a unchecked code snippet:

Sub ADSIMoveMailbox(recipname As String, DestinationServer As String,
MailBoxStore As String, StorageGroup As String)



Dim objUser As IADsUser

Dim objMailbox As CDOEXM.IMailboxStore

Dim strMove As String

Dim exchPath



On Error GoTo errorhandler

Set objUser = GetObject(recipname)

Set objMailbox = objUser



If objMailbox.HomeMDB <> "" Then

exchPath = DestinationServer

If exchPath <> "" Then

   strMove = "cn=" + MailBoxStore + ",cn=" + StorageGroup +
",cn=InformationStore," + exchPath

MsgBox "Now Moving:" & objUser.Name

   objMailbox.MoveMailbox strMove <-- This does all the work

   objUser.SetInfo

   MsgBox "Move Mailbox operation has been completed for user " +
recipname

Else

   MsgBox "FAIL :Server " + DestinationServer + " not found"

End If

Else

 MsgBox "FAIL: no mailbox to move for " + recipname

End If



On Error Goto 0

GoTo EndofItAll



errorhandler:

If Err <> 0 Then

   MsgBox "FAIL: Move Mailbox Error while moving user " + recipname
+ ". Error Code is " + Str(Err)

   Exit Sub

End If

EndofItAll:

End Sub


HTH

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From: "Moore, David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


> Thanks for the info -
>
> Though I do know about LDIF and CSV dumps out of AD and I'm even good 
> with using ADSI to perform LDAP lookups but they all have one little 
> problem - they don't have the "move mailbox" option.  I am attempting 
> to move the users mailbox from one DB to another.
>
> david
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?
>
>
> LDIFDE very simple. Once you learn it.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q237677
>
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Moore, David 
> K
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?
>
>
> I am attempting to generate a search result in Active Directory Users 
> and Computers that only lists users in a specific database - I need to

> move all those specific users to new databases and I really don't want

> to write down all the names and move them manually.  So, here is what 
> I've done already:
>
> - No, can't simply navigate down to the servers' database object and 
> list of users then right click and move - no such option on the 
> context menu.
>
> - Tried every combination of "Exchange Mailbox Store" in the search 
> feature of ADUC - wouldn't you think it would be 
> "CN=databasename,CN=storagegroupname" with the "starts with" search 
> option?
>
> Help!  Any ADUC guru's out there?
>
> David
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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[kanee]

did you ever think your processor just aint cutting it, maybe you should add another 
processor

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


Is it causing a problem. Maybe you are getting spammed. They are many
reasons. Maybe it  could be some sending out a mass mailing from their
personal address book

- Original Message -
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


> Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
> have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it did
> not solved the problem.
>
> Any idea?
>
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RE: STM Question

[Webb, Andy]

It arrives in the STM, but is immediately promoted to the EDB as I
understand it.  There's not much "conversion" in that case, though the
message envelope properties do come from the MIME wrapper.  Conversion
doesn't ever take place "in" the STM though.  It's just a big file. 

-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:29 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Internet mail that includes Application/ms-tnef: is that mail put into
the STM?  From what I understand, it is converted in the stm and
ultimately stored in the edb.  True or no?

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Yes. For the most part that's where the 8GB has gone.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:39 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


So... I have a server with 28GB EDB+STM size. Recently defragged offline
with eseutil /d

Ran a report with Mailbox Manager and it says that the total of all
items in all users' mailboxes is ~20GB.

Is this 8GB overhead created by the duplicity that exists between the
EDB and STM files?




-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all 
> likelihood you have not lost mu

RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025

[Dan Bartley]

In my case I did apply to a test server first. I got could not stop
msexchangesa and could not restart iisadmin services. Not a problem, I
stopped the Exchange services manually, it requires a reboot anyway so
restarting at time of install is not important.

I've had similar services stopping and starting issues with every
Exchange patch for E2k. That's why I test first. So far, 4 hours into
it, no performance problems or loss of services on the test box. That's
the important part. If it continues to be ok under load then I will
apply it to a production server, after stopping all services manually
first (something I learned to do as far back as 4.0).

The important part is that I know what to expect when I apply the patch
in production and that makes for a smooth transition and minimum
downtime.

Best Regards, 
Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 17:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025

Hoooya!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:06 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin
-MS02 -025


"Customers are advised to review the bulletin and *test* and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable"


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025


Patch was unable to restart 'msexchangesa' and 'msexchangeis'
automatically.
Rebooted and all appears to be fine.  

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft
Exchange 2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and
deploy the patch in their environments, if applicable

More information is now available at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

If you have any questions regarding the patch or its implementation
after reading the above listed bulletin you should contact Product
Support Services in the United States at 1-866-PCSafety
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RE: STM Question

[Baker, Jennifer]

Internet mail that includes Application/ms-tnef: is that mail put into the
STM?  From what I understand, it is converted in the stm and ultimately
stored in the edb.  True or no?

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Yes. For the most part that's where the 8GB has gone.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:39 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


So... I have a server with 28GB EDB+STM size. Recently defragged offline
with eseutil /d

Ran a report with Mailbox Manager and it says that the total of all
items in all users' mailboxes is ~20GB.

Is this 8GB overhead created by the duplicity that exists between the
EDB and STM files?




-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
>

RE: Multiple messages

[Ed Crowley]

Beam me up, Scotty!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Baker,
Jennifer
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/star-trek-one/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


Hey ED, are you subscribed to any other list?

Filipe Joel de Almeida
Network Consultant
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Mobile: +351 967819600


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhn -
MCSE
Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 16:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages

Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom
to share, pls share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:49 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





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Re: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Glenn Corbett]

Yes, but it hasnt happened for a while, and certainly not this bad.

(and wouldn't you know it, my posts were in the loop, fun eh ?)

Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "Webb, Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


It's not uncommon.  Usually it's caused by some newbie's pop3 redirector
being turned on.



-Original Message-
From: Don Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:15 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: For those fed up with the looping stuff
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


So...

This is a regular occurrence here?

I'm new this last week. Lots of good info.

Don Couch
Systems Administrator/Facilities Manager
808-891-7915
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Pacific Disaster Center/East West Center
590 Lipoa Parkway Suite 259
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.

-Original Message-
From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

;-}

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:

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RE: STM Question

[Webb, Andy]

Yes. For the most part that's where the 8GB has gone.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:39 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


So... I have a server with 28GB EDB+STM size. Recently defragged offline
with eseutil /d

Ran a report with Mailbox Manager and it says that the total of all
items in all users' mailboxes is ~20GB.

Is this 8GB overhead created by the duplicity that exists between the
EDB and STM files?




-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was 
> > being held flooded in. I did have the "up-to-date" edb file, al be 
> > it somewhat corrupt..:-)What could have been lost, as some of my 
> > other stm files are about a Gig or so? They opened attachments and 
> > all seemed to be there.
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> >

RE: STM Question

[Kevin Miller]

Think deleted items retention. Is there a reason you are so concerned
with the size you had to run an offline defrag to reclaim white space
that you most likely have already used?>

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


So... I have a server with 28GB EDB+STM size. Recently defragged offline
with eseutil /d

Ran a report with Mailbox Manager and it says that the total of all
items in all users' mailboxes is ~20GB.

Is this 8GB overhead created by the duplicity that exists between the
EDB and STM files?




-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was 
> > being held flooded in. I d

RE: STM Question

[Andrey Fyodorov]

So... I have a server with 28GB EDB+STM size. Recently defragged offline
with eseutil /d

Ran a report with Mailbox Manager and it says that the total of all items in
all users' mailboxes is ~20GB.

Is this 8GB overhead created by the duplicity that exists between the EDB
and STM files?




-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all 
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was
> > being held flooded in. I did have the "up-to-date" edb file, al be 
> > it somewhat corrupt..:-)What could have been lost, as some of my 
> > other stm files are about a Gig or so? They opened attachments and 
> > all seemed to be there.
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 03:22
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Did you lose any mail?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> >

RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[William Lefkovics]

They suffer *different* outages.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:

Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Martin Tuip]

Over the past there have been quite a few issues. It used to be quite
bearable, but the flaws are getting worse unfortunately. The Exchange 2000
list was created 2.5 years ago to discuss Exchange 2000 at the time it was
still in Beta and to keep this list free from the Beta discussions. It kinda
grew and is currently probably the third biggest Exchange discussion list in
the world with 1500+ subscribers.

--
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MVP Exchange
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- Original Message -
From: "Don Couch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


> So...
>
> This is a regular occurrence here?
>
> I'm new this last week. Lots of good info.
>
> Don Couch
> Systems Administrator/Facilities Manager
> 808-891-7915
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> Pacific Disaster Center/East West Center
> 590 Lipoa Parkway Suite 259
> Kihei, HI. 96753
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
>
> Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
>
> Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...
>
> ;-}
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff
>
>
>
> There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this.
> To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:
>
> Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> --
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RE: STM Question

[Webb, Andy]

Mostly complete.

I wasn't as much asking a question about it as stating my
dissatisfaction with the explanation in the Q article.

More than just a pointer is put into the EDB file.  A subset of the
message properties are always promoted from the STM to the EDB.  A
further subset are always promoted when the message is read.  The
entirety of the message wouldn't be promoted unless it was modified
(note that forwarding creates a copy of the message which will exist in
the EDB completely.  Also copying a message will result in a complete
EDB copy).

There are several points at which data is converted dynamically and
discarded.  There are also several points at which data is converted and
retained.  It is not as simple as your description or the KB describe
it.  But you knew that, I'm sure.

Back to the beginning question - it is very likely that a lost STM file
will result in lost data.  However in an environment where most data is
either Outlook generated, or has been migrated from Exchange 5.5, the
loss may be less noticable.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all 
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was
> > being held flooded in. I did have the "up-to-date" edb file, al be 
> > it somewhat corrupt..:-)What could have been lost, as some of my 
> > other stm files are about a Gig or so? They opened attachments and 
> > all seemed to be there.
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 03:22
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Did you lose any mail?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Jeffrey!!
> > 
> > It repaired some corruption in the tables and created a new stm
> > file. Whenever you are in Cape Town, the first couple of beers are 
> > on my tap!
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EM

RE: STM Question

[Jeffrey A. Beckham]

Information in the edb file is stored in MDBEF and the STM is MIME.

When an SMTP message comes in from the outside, it is put into the STM
file and a pointer to it is put into the EDB for the appropriate
mailboxes.  It will stay in the STM file (Mime format) even if read by
an outlook client.  It will only get converted to MDBEF and kept in the
EDB if the message is then modified and saved.  If a new message is
created in outlook it goes in the EDB file.  It is done this way to cut
back on the conversion that had to be done for every SMTP message from
MIME to MDBEF.

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:34 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was 
> > being held flooded in. I did have the "up-to-date" edb file, al be 
> > it somewhat corrupt..:-)What could have been lost, as some of my 
> > other stm files are about a Gig or so? They opened attachments and 
> > all seemed to be there.
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 03:22
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Did you lose any mail?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Jeffrey!!
> > 
> > It repaired some corruption in the tables and created a new stm 
> > file. Whenever you are in Cape Town, the first couple of beers are 
> > on my tap!
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 10:34
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Eseutil /p "databasename.edb" /createstm
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 3:06 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: STM Question
> > Subject: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Morning Admins
> > 
> > I have appear to have lost (gone, no trace) a stm file for one of my

> > Mailbox Stores. Needless to say, the Mailbox store does not mount, 
> > nor can I restore my backup bkf file as I get an error: Information 
> > Store
> > (2264) Database recovery/restore failed with unexpected error
> > -1811. I searched on -1811 but I do not appear to see 
> > anything on the Technet site that helps me on from here. Can 
> > one creatre a blank stm file? I tried it but no joy.
> > 
> > Has anybody got any suggestions, apart from calling PPS, which I 
> > will do if I can't get this resolved soon.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _
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> > Archives:   http://

RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Webb, Andy]

It's not uncommon.  Usually it's caused by some newbie's pop3 redirector
being turned on.



-Original Message-
From: Don Couch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:15 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: For those fed up with the looping stuff
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


So...

This is a regular occurrence here?

I'm new this last week. Lots of good info.

Don Couch
Systems Administrator/Facilities Manager
808-891-7915
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Pacific Disaster Center/East West Center
590 Lipoa Parkway Suite 259
Kihei, HI. 96753


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.

-Original Message-
From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

;-}

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025

[MS Exchange Discussions]

Hoooya!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:06 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025


"Customers are advised to review the bulletin and *test* and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable"


-Original Message-
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Patch was unable to restart 'msexchangesa' and 'msexchangeis' automatically.
Rebooted and all appears to be fine.  

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
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MS02-025
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft
Exchange 2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and
deploy the patch in their environments, if applicable

More information is now available at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

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RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Don Couch]

So...

This is a regular occurrence here?

I'm new this last week. Lots of good info.

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
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Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

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Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



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RE: Group Mail

[Webb, Andy]

And for those of you who are fsck impaired. ;)

www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/fscking.html 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:40 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
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Subject: RE: Group Mail


What the fsck is a Group Mail Pro? 

Is it too much to ask for a properly phrased technical question once in
a while? Christ on cracker you people...


> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:31 PM
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> Subject: Group Mail
> 
> 
> How exactly does Group Mail Pro send without and SMTP server?

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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02 -025

[Dillon, Jeff]

In order to make space on your hard drive for the Sealand character set, we
regret that bound-checking of any/all input was forgone

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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MS02 -025


Wasn't there a bug like this in the E55 IMS as well. Long time ago?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft Exchange
2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable

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http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

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RE: STM Question

[Webb, Andy]

Sort of.  But the equation of "MAPI" and moreover MAPI Properties with
"Rich Text Format" is just wrong.  How exactly do you convert a date to
rich text format?  What does that mean?

IMHO that article does little to definitively explain what content is
where and when.  It raises lots more questions though.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question



Q232323 might clear things up a bit.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 23 May 2002 14:58
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: STM Question
Subject: RE: STM Question


Mark, are you sure about this? and if so can you send me any references
to it?  I thought that all content is stored in it's native format in
the Exchange Store.  So Mapi is stored as RTF, HTML as HTML, a Word Doc
as a word doc.  Some of the properties are stored in the priv1.edb, but
everything else is stored in the STM.

I am basing this on what I read and when I open up the priv1.edb and the
priv1.stm in notepad.  You have to stop the server to be able to do
this. I also am looking at the copies of these files in C:\Program
Files\Exchsvr\MDBdata.

TIA

--Felicity


> If all your clients are MAPI based (i.e. Outlook) then in all
> likelihood you have not lost much at all since any attachments 
> originally delivered to the STM will have been converted to a 
> MAPI-readable copy in the EDB file.  Only new messages with 
> internet-formatted content which had not yet been opened by a MAPI 
> client would have been in the STM and not in the EDB as well.
> 
> Mark
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 14:28
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Not that I can see. As soon as we were back lots of mail that was 
> > being held flooded in. I did have the "up-to-date" edb file, al be 
> > it somewhat corrupt..:-)What could have been lost, as some of my 
> > other stm files are about a Gig or so? They opened attachments and 
> > all seemed to be there.
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 03:22
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Did you lose any mail?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Jeffrey!!
> > 
> > It repaired some corruption in the tables and created a new stm 
> > file. Whenever you are in Cape Town, the first couple of beers are 
> > on my tap!
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffrey A. Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 May 2002 10:34
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Eseutil /p "databasename.edb" /createstm
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Thursday, May 23, 2002 3:06 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: STM Question
> > Subject: STM Question
> > 
> > 
> > Morning Admins
> > 
> > I have appear to have lost (gone, no trace) a stm file for one of my

> > Mailbox Stores. Needless to say, the Mailbox store does not mount, 
> > nor can I restore my backup bkf file as I get an error: Information 
> > Store
> > (2264) Database recovery/restore failed with unexpected error
> > -1811. I searched on -1811 but I do not appear to see 
> > anything on the Technet site that helps me on from here. Can 
> > one creatre a blank stm file? I tried it but no joy.
> > 
> > Has anybody got any suggestions, apart from calling PPS, which I 
> > will do if I can't get this resolved soon.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Sander
> > 
> > 
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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -MS02 -025

[Andy David]

"Customers are advised to review the bulletin and *test* and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable"


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025


Patch was unable to restart 'msexchangesa' and 'msexchangeis' automatically.
Rebooted and all appears to be fine.  

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02-025
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft
Exchange 2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and
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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025

[MS Exchange Discussions]

Patch was unable to restart 'msexchangesa' and 'msexchangeis' automatically.  Rebooted 
and all appears to be fine.  

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Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
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Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02 -025

[Martin Blackstone]

Wasn't there a bug like this in the E55 IMS as well. Long time ago?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft Exchange
2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable

More information is now available at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

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Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025

[Ed Crowley]

Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

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RE: Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups

[Ken Cornetet]

Domain that contains MSX servers and users is mixed mode. Domain with DLs
(Universal Distribution Groups) is native. See second paragraph of my
original post.

I have found one Q article since my post that indicates I need a separate
RUS in the domain that the DLs are replicated to. Unfortunately, it didn't
spell out how to do that. More research on my part...

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups
Sensitivity: Confidential


Is your Windows 2000 domain in native mode?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups
Sensitivity: Confidential


I'm testing our 5.5 -> 2K migration plan in a test lab, and I've run
into a stumbling block. Q295922 says that ADC migrates 5.5 DLs to AD
UDGs and that the E2K store will convert these to USGs "as needed". This
is not what I'm seeing, so obviously, I'm confused...

I have two AD domains: ADSTEST (native) and KIITEST (mixed). All user
IDs and Exchange servers are in KIITEST. Connection agreements are in
place to replicate everything except DLs into KIITEST (mixed mode
domain). DLs go into ADSTEST (native AD).

Everything seems to be working EXCEPT that when mailboxes are moved from
the 5.5 server to the 2K server, any mailbox permissions granting access
to members of a DL no longer work. Checking the DLs in question shows
they are still USGs and have not been converted to USGs. 

Everything I've seen about DLs used to grant security always reference
public folders - I've never seen mention about DLs used to grant
security to mailboxes. Do DLs need to be USGs to grant access to
mailboxes? 

If so, must I convert them manually?

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Here's a good one

[Charles Carerros]

I have been reading up on the RestrictAnonymous reg key (trying to
tighten my security a bit).  I was wondering if anyone here has this
setting on their Exchange 2000 box.  

MS only says that domain trusts (which I don't have any) no longer work
with this setting.  And Veritas says a few changes must be made in order
to complete an System State backup.  

If anyone knows any others reasons why I shouldn't implement this
change, it would be nice to know the problems before I blindly go out
and make it.


Thank you,

 Chuck

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OWA and netscape

[James Liddil]

I just realized that users can not use OWA via Netscape.  The messages are
"authorization failed" with navigator 4.7 or Error: Access Denied with
navigator 6.X.  I made sure that only basic authentication was checked and
sopped and restarted the service.  Tried //domain/username and
domain/username with no luck.  I am sure this all started after I had to
completely remove and reinstall Exchange 2000 w/ iislockdown and urlscan (MS
spent 11 hours on the phone with me to do this, don't ask why).  But I have
yet to find any KB stuff to tell me what to fix

Jim Liddil

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RE: Multiple messages

[Baker, Jennifer]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/star-trek-one/
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Multiple messages


Hey ED, are you subscribed to any other list?

Filipe Joel de Almeida
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Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 16:35
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Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom
to share, pls share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
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To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

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Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
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RE: Multiple messages

[Andy David]

Do you like movies about Gladiators?


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


Hey ED, are you subscribed to any other list?

Filipe Joel de Almeida
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Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 16:35
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Subject: RE: Multiple messages

Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom
to share, pls share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:49 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
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RE: help

[Doug Hampshire]

In that case, I'm not wearing pants. Just wanted to let you know.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


I just wanted to let you know...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 May, 2002 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


Congratulations. You've failed to include /any/ useful information in
your
post.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: help
> 
> 
> help !!!
> my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: help

[Doug Hampshire]

When you do that voodoo, that you do so well.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


So what?

Care to be a LITTLE bit more specific in your request?  Or should we resort
to the crystal fscking balls and voodoo dances to try and work out what the
hell you're prattling on about?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: help


help !!!
my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: Multiple messages

[Ed Crowley]

Yes.

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Hey ED, are you subscribed to any other list?

Filipe Joel de Almeida
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhn -
MCSE
Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 16:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages

Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom
to share, pls share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:49 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Fennema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





N. Ryan Fennema, MCSE
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RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Doug Hampshire]

Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.

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Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

;-}

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:

Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Multiple messages

[Filipe Joel de Almeida]

Hey ED, are you subscribed to any other list?

Filipe Joel de Almeida
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhn -
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Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 16:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages

Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom
to share, pls share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:49 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Fennema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
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RE: Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups

[Ed Crowley]

Is your Windows 2000 domain in native mode?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
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Subject: Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups
Sensitivity: Confidential


I'm testing our 5.5 -> 2K migration plan in a test lab, and I've run
into a stumbling block. Q295922 says that ADC migrates 5.5 DLs to AD
UDGs and that the E2K store will convert these to USGs "as needed". This
is not what I'm seeing, so obviously, I'm confused...

I have two AD domains: ADSTEST (native) and KIITEST (mixed). All user
IDs and Exchange servers are in KIITEST. Connection agreements are in
place to replicate everything except DLs into KIITEST (mixed mode
domain). DLs go into ADSTEST (native AD).

Everything seems to be working EXCEPT that when mailboxes are moved from
the 5.5 server to the 2K server, any mailbox permissions granting access
to members of a DL no longer work. Checking the DLs in question shows
they are still USGs and have not been converted to USGs. 

Everything I've seen about DLs used to grant security always reference
public folders - I've never seen mention about DLs used to grant
security to mailboxes. Do DLs need to be USGs to grant access to
mailboxes? 

If so, must I convert them manually?

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RE: Duplicate Entries in 5.5 GAL

[Ed Crowley]

Search TechNet and use the keyword "orphan".  You have orphaned objects
in the directory.

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Duplicate Entries in 5.5 GAL


A customer has Exchange 5.5 (SP4) in 2 sites (A & B), each with a single
server.  There is Directory Replication set up between the 2 and all was
well until last week.  Then, owing to a problem he had to completely
rebuild the site A server.  He was able to get everything back to a
point where everything was OK - mail flowed between the 2 sites & from
each site to the outside world (via site A).  However, the GAL at site B
is now showing all of the old entries for site as well as the new ones.

In looking at TechNet articles it seems that site B is waiting for site
A to send replication information to remove the old objects, but this
won't happen.  I cannot determine from what I've read whether simply
removing the Directory Replication Connector at site B and then
re-creating it will cure the problem (Or if it is supposed to, how long
it will take).  So any suggestions would be useful.

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RE: help

[Kim Schotanus]

I just wanted to let you know...

-Original Message-
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Sent: 29 May, 2002 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


Congratulations. You've failed to include /any/ useful information in
your
post.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> help !!!
> my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: Test

[Filipe Joel de Almeida]

BECAUSE HE'S THE MAN!!!

BTW, have you ever read the FAQ? I guess not, or you wouldn't have made
that question...

Filipe Joel de Almeida


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Felicity Smith
Sent: terça-feira, 28 de Maio de 2002 19:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test

Pardon me for asking, but who is Ed Crowley and why should I worship at
his feet?

--Felicity

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RE: Archive

[Filipe Joel de Almeida]

Same problem here... :(

Filipe Joel de Almeida
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Couch
Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de Maio de 2002 1:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Archive

E...


I got about 25 copies of the same message - is there a problem on my end
or on the server end?



-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Archive


I think we agree, more or less.  I don't believe that
e-mail administrators are the best ones to decide what
information to keep or delete and for how long.  I
also happen to think that lawyers aren't either.  My
point is that document retention policies, as with
many other policies like service level agreements,
aren't based on sound business decisions, but instead
are based upon fear.

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- David Florea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Users are always free to maintain whatever e-mails
> or files they want, and it's our job to help them do
> just that.  If they determine a file should be
> deleted, then we help them do that too.  That's not
> hiding anything, that's just good and efficient
> practice.  And I wouldn't think you're trying to put
> us admins in a different policy-making arena than
> that.  If you're talking about intentional
> destruction of evidence in a legal matter, that's
> different, and I agree with you.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> As I've always said, document retention will benefit
> those organizations who act ethically.  I don't
> think
> it makes sense to destroy all your evidence when
> those
> with an axe to grind keep all theirs.  Those with
> nothing to hide shouldn't be hiding it.
> 
> Ed Crowley
> hp Services
> 
> --- Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Ed, as usual, is correct.
> > 
> > Depends what the risk is to people making binding
> > commitments via email that
> > may cost the company $$$.
> > Email here is considered a public record (as
> > indicated in our email policy).
> > 
> > Emails are easy to create/modify by the other
> party.
> > Having an audit trail
> > of mails sent/received may be of value to your
> > company.
> > 
> > I have every email that has gone through the mail
> > gateway for the last 5
> > years on CD.
> > This process is automated to the point where 18
> > months worth of detail in
> > held in an oracle Db and the only human
> intervention
> > is to write the monthly
> > data on to CD's
> > 
> > This may assist us in any litigation issues, and
> as
> > a public company, we
> > have nothing to hide.
> > 
> > We keep archive tapes back to '89, when we arose
> > from the ashes of about 30
> > public sector organisations
> > 
> > I have has cases of senior managers needing
> e-mails
> > from up to a year old
> > that they had inadvertently deleted ( or told the
> > other party they never
> > received it)
> > 
> > Our litigation processes here are not quickly and
> > extensively used here in
> > NZ, unlike *other* countries.
> > 
> > 
> > cheers
> > Dean
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 5:46 a.m.
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Archive
> > 
> > 
> > Another way to look at it:  What's the worth of
> old
> > e-mail?
> > 
> > Ed Crowley
> > hp Services
> > 
> > --- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > How long do most of you hold tapes?  We are
> > looking
> > > to establish a
> > > standard on how long to keep tapes in archived
> > > before reintroducing them
> > > back into the tape rotation to be overwritten. 
> I
> > > know there are many
> > > differnent ways to look at this as far as cost
> per
> > > tape, storage space,
> > > legal aspects, and disaster recovery and wanted
> to
> > > know what people
> > > thought was a good period
> > > 
> > >
> >
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RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?

[Sabo, Eric]

Active/passive makes a big difference.   When I do a move group with the cluster 
admin, it will not failover with the trendmicro services running.   In the cluster 
log, I get the following: 

0704.09d8::2002/05/06-16:52:09.409 : [EXRESSOCK] connect 
failed, Error Code: 10061.

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
Computing Services Center
California University of Pennsylvania


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


Same as yours but Active/Passive.  How do you test the failover?  I manually moved the 
resource and it was okay...

Though I must admit, the fact that there's no sync utility for the configuration 
setting in SMMC is pretty weak.

-Original Message-
From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:09 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


Exchange 2000 SP2 a 2 node active/active cluster.  Scanmail version is 6.0

This product is causing the cluster not to failover.   

What environment do you have?

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
Computing Services Center
California University of Pennsylvania


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


What version of Exchange, OS and ScanMail?

-Original Message-
From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:01 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


If so, are you experiencing any problems with this software not allowing the cluster 
to failover.  

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
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California University of Pennsylvania

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RE: help

[Soysal, Serdar]

So, don't spam.  If you're not spamming, then what are you doing?

Serdar Soysal


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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: help


help !!!
my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[David Florea]

Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

;-}

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:

Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?

[MS Exchange Discussions]

Same as yours but Active/Passive.  How do you test the failover?  I manually moved the 
resource and it was okay...

Though I must admit, the fact that there's no sync utility for the configuration 
setting in SMMC is pretty weak.

-Original Message-
From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:09 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


Exchange 2000 SP2 a 2 node active/active cluster.  Scanmail version is 6.0

This product is causing the cluster not to failover.   

What environment do you have?

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
Computing Services Center
California University of Pennsylvania


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


What version of Exchange, OS and ScanMail?

-Original Message-
From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:01 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


If so, are you experiencing any problems with this software not allowing the cluster 
to failover.  

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
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California University of Pennsylvania

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For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Martin Tuip]

There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
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Universal Distribution Groups vs. Universal Security Groups

[Ken Cornetet]

I'm testing our 5.5 -> 2K migration plan in a test lab, and I've run into a
stumbling block. Q295922 says that ADC migrates 5.5 DLs to AD UDGs and that
the E2K store will convert these to USGs "as needed". This is not what I'm
seeing, so obviously, I'm confused...

I have two AD domains: ADSTEST (native) and KIITEST (mixed). All user IDs
and Exchange servers are in KIITEST. Connection agreements are in place to
replicate everything except DLs into KIITEST (mixed mode domain). DLs go
into ADSTEST (native AD).

Everything seems to be working EXCEPT that when mailboxes are moved from the
5.5 server to the 2K server, any mailbox permissions granting access to
members of a DL no longer work. Checking the DLs in question shows they are
still USGs and have not been converted to USGs. 

Everything I've seen about DLs used to grant security always reference
public folders - I've never seen mention about DLs used to grant security to
mailboxes. Do DLs need to be USGs to grant access to mailboxes? 

If so, must I convert them manually?

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Duplicate Entries in 5.5 GAL

[David Barnes]

A customer has Exchange 5.5 (SP4) in 2 sites (A & B), each with a single
server.  There is Directory Replication set up between the 2 and all was
well until last week.  Then, owing to a problem he had to completely
rebuild the site A server.  He was able to get everything back to a point
where everything was OK - mail flowed between the 2 sites & from each site
to the outside world (via site A).  However, the GAL at site B is now
showing all of the old entries for site as well as the new ones.

In looking at TechNet articles it seems that site B is waiting for site A
to send replication information to remove the old objects, but this won't
happen.  I cannot determine from what I've read whether simply removing
the Directory Replication Connector at site B and then re-creating it will
cure the problem (Or if it is supposed to, how long it will take).  So any
suggestions would be useful.

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RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?

[Sabo, Eric]

Exchange 2000 SP2 a 2 node active/active cluster.  Scanmail version is 6.0

This product is causing the cluster not to failover.   

What environment do you have?

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
Computing Services Center
California University of Pennsylvania


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


What version of Exchange, OS and ScanMail?

-Original Message-
From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:01 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


If so, are you experiencing any problems with this software not allowing the cluster 
to failover.  

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
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California University of Pennsylvania

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RE: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?

[MS Exchange Discussions]

What version of Exchange, OS and ScanMail?

-Original Message-
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Posted At: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:01 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?
Subject: Anyone using TrendMicro Scanmail in a cluster environment?


If so, are you experiencing any problems with this software not allowing the cluster 
to failover.  

Eric Sabo
NT Administrator
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California University of Pennsylvania

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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

[Neil Hobson]

Sounds like you recall correctly, because only last week I researched
this (again, 'cos I'd forgotten) and a Compaq document stated 150Mb for
a SG, 10Mb for a database.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 29 May 2002 16:48
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores
Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores


If I recall, you take a 100MB hit for each SG you load and another 10MB
hit for each IS within the SG.  That's just to get the system started.
Once the dynamic buffer caching starts growing the allocation to hold
the "active" data, it's more.

As Chris said, fragmentation of memory starts to become a problem.  If
you ever shut down one of the stores or SG's for any reason on a system
that fully loaded, you may not be able to start it back up without a
full restart.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores


The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have
doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them
mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit
windows is a common thing.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM
Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
stores

I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed."

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv

[John Strongosky]

Kulwinder, thanks for the input but that would give me total for the server,
I'm try to get it for each individual.

john

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv


If you read the entire thread, that's the process he was attempting to
avoid.

-- 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> 
> 
> There is a way to get this via exchange admin.
> 
> Goto mailbox resources on the server and highlight all 
> mailboxes, click on File and save windows contents into a csv 
> file.  Open the CSV file in excel and sum the Total K.
> 
> This does it accurately.
> 
> Kulwinder
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Chris, by any chance do you havbe an example of the script...
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> > 
> > 
> > Isn't exportable via admin.exe. Can be exported using script.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:30 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Trying to export a list of my mailbox's for my mangers that
> > > have both the total k and home server attribute listed. I'm 
> > > do this now by doing 2 different export's one that list the 
> > > home server via the dir export and the other via the save 
> > > window contents then merging them via access. Tried searching 
> > > microsoft site for the attribute list of the field Total K 
> > > but can't find it. Tried the words Total K in the header.csv 
> > > but said it was illegal. Does anyone know what the proper 
> > > name for this attribute is

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RE: help

[Chris Scharff]

Congratulations. You've failed to include /any/ useful information in your
post.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: help
> 
> 
> help !!!
> my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: Multiple messages

[Bill Kuhn - MCSE]

Enough of this looping crap. I'm unsubscribing. If anyone has any wisdom to share, pls 
share it at Sunbelt's list..

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:49 AM
To: ExchangeList@swynk
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


yup...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





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RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores

[Webb, Andy]

If I recall, you take a 100MB hit for each SG you load and another 10MB hit for each 
IS within the SG.  That's just to get the system started.  Once the dynamic buffer 
caching starts growing the allocation to hold the "active" data, it's more.

As Chris said, fragmentation of memory starts to become a problem.  If you ever shut 
down one of the stores or SG's for any reason on a system that fully loaded, you may 
not be able to start it back up without a full restart.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number
of stores


The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have
doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them
mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows
is a common thing.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM
Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of
stores

I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange
2000 server.

I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage
groups.  If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the
Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed."

If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange
complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage
groups allowed.

Can someone explain this to me.

TIA

--Felicity

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RE: help

[Slinger, Gary]

So what?

Care to be a LITTLE bit more specific in your request?  Or should we resort
to the crystal fscking balls and voodoo dances to try and work out what the
hell you're prattling on about?

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: help


help !!!
my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: Echo...

[Dillon, Jeff]

Nothing a little carpet couldn't fix...simply cover the list-server's
blowhole.  Shag works fastest

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Echo...


Echo


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Re: Distribution Lists in Ex.5.5 converts to Distribution Lists & Security Groups

[sadek hamidani]

The security Group is still used for giving permissions and access
If you don't mail enable it it will not be used for email as it will not
appear in the GAL
You only use security group for mail distribution if all the users in it 
have the same access and privileges to resources
A Distribution group is the same as a DL in 5.5
I hope this helps a bit 

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RE: Multiple messages

[Christopher Hummert]

There is an echo going on.  Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple messages


There is an echo going on.  Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Network Administrator
> X-Rite Incorporated - Grandville, MI
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RE: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)

[Robert Blomquist]

In my test lab all users in the child domain are using the default recipient
policy. The users in my NT domain are not, the only link between domains is
a trust relationship.

I don't see how in my case it could be related to the recipient policy but I
took a look and didn't see anything that may allow a user outside of the
forest, even with rights, to load the correct mailbox.

maybe if I added the mailbox to the url when accessing the owa server... I'm
going to give that a shot.

Thanks,
Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator



-Original Message-
From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2002 7:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)


Hi there

I have had a similar problem, but with another child domain.  Are all the
addresses that the users are currently using in the default recipient
policy??

Thanks

Russell

-Original Message-
From: Robert Blomquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)


HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't trust
them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.

Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to run a totally
separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships setup. The
child domain will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want to run user or
computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my separate domain.

I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my users
logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.

Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.

Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator





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RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000

[Tom Meunier]

Oh boy.  The SWYNK has hit the fan.  Sorry Mike, it ain't you I guess.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:14 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000
Subject: RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Stop posting this over and over again.  It's mind-numbingly annoying.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:36 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000
Subject: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Does anyone have an example similar to
http://www.cdolive.com/customerinfo.htm to work on Exchange 2000? I
tried the sample files, but the form used to get the Folder ID of the
public folder I need is not working correctly. It just sits there and
does nothing. If there is another way to get the Folder ID of the
folder, please let me know.

Maybe a .NET application will work as well. Any code snippets would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mike Lagase

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RE: OWA with multiple domains

[alantzos]

See Q293386

-Original Message-
From: Robert Blomquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 28 May 2002 21:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA with multiple domains

HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't trust
them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.

Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to keep user accounts
in a totally separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships
setup. The child domain to HQ will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want
to run user or computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my
separate domain.

I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my users
logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.

Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.

Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator


Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator
Sabic Americas, Inc.
713) 532-4999




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RE: Multiple messages

[Couch, Nate]

There is an echo going on.  Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Nate Couch
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> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
> 
> N. Ryan Fennema, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> X-Rite Incorporated - Grandville, MI
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Exchange 2000 Fax connectors/solutions comparison

[Michel, David]

I was given a box with RightFax software and told that is what I would
be using, no room for debate.  Despite those beginnings, the product has
been stable and solid for almost four years through three different
versions.  Of course, faxing in a law firm is very important so cost was
not a contributing factor in our purchase.  RightFax is good but is not
one of the cheapest so plan accordingly.  Just my two cents...  


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:28 PM
Posted To: dsm_lists
Conversation: Exchange 2000 Fax connectors/solutions comparison
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Fax connectors/solutions comparison


I found I had to do my own research.
And as with all products each has their own Pro's/Con's

I found it depends on your company/environment/size..., What needs to
also
integrate with it (i.e. a unix system maybe-smtp?), What type of
documents
and "stuff" may come from the "other" systems using it. User -
usability/interface i.e. I think the simpler the better for users...etc.

Then contact all the Fax vendors you think are worth while, get a NFR
run
it, run it again, break it, call their tech support... Find out ALL the
little details they didn't tell you and then ones which are different in
a
production environment

Get the pricing right cause each one does it a different way it seems.
Them maybe buy it...then you'll find the things you missed.

I ended up with Faxination. the licensing fit my environment over right
fax,
thus cost was right.
Both allowed me SMTP from my unix box. Where GFI did not in one product.

Do your research well, it will pay off...

bill

-Original Message-
From: ParthaSarathy, Sriraman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Fax connectors/solutions comparison



> We currently use Facsys 4.7 with Exchange. Trying to find out more
info
> whether GFI's Faxmaker or RightFax or some other Fax solution will be
> better. Is there any comparison of these Exchange Fax solutions. Would
be
> nice if the comparison is recent one with the latest releases
compared.
> Which one is better integrated with Exchange 2000. TIA.

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RE: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)

[Robert Blomquist]

I don't think it's a problem with IIS or DNS. I can get to the mailbox fine
using the user account from the child domain that E2K is installed in, both
using Outlook and OWA. When using OWA, I enter the UN/PW/Domain from the NT
domain (the domain where my real user accounts are), E2K checks its database
to see what mailbox to open, and it doesn't seem to be finding a mailbox
associated with that user. If it had a feature similar to Ex5.5 where I tell
it what mailbox I want, then give it the UN/PW/Domain that has the security
to open it, I would be fine.

I don't want my users to have to remember 2 different user
accounts/passwords and will probably give in to HQ if I can't get this to
work.

Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tue, May 28, 2002 12:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)


It is an IIS issue. Possible a DNS issue. You can have multiple AD
directories that are accessible by using server1.domain.com or domain.comm
but the user must know to type the FQDN in where the domain name field is. I
hope this pushes you in the right direction.

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Blomquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:23 PM
Subject: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)


> HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't
trust
> them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.
>
> Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to run a totally
> separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships setup. The
> child domain will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want to run user or
> computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my separate
domain.
>
> I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
> E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
> environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
> open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my
users
> logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.
>
> Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.
>
> Robert Blomquist
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Multiple messages

[Neil Hobson]

Yes.  I'm thinking of doing all my replies today, so that when Andy Webb
compiles his top 10 posters of 2002, I'll be there   :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
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Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Couch, Nate]

What is your server configuration (RAM, Pagefile, etc.)?  Have you run
PerfMon in log mode to record any of this performance hit?

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> Any antivirus software maybe scanning the store?
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> > Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
> > have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it
> did
> > not solved the problem.
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RE: Multiple messages

[Ward, Stuart]

yup...

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Fennema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





N. Ryan Fennema, MCSE
Network Administrator
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Phone: (616) 257-2165 Fax: (616) 257-2165
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RE: Multiple messages

[Tener, Richard]

 yup and I dont know why.  I was having problems with my dns today and
thought that was the cause.

rich

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Fennema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple messages



Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





N. Ryan Fennema, MCSE
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EvA and other Exchange sync software

[Jon Butler (Mailing Lists)]

I am in the process of evaluating Eklektika's EvA software
(http://www.eklektika.net) to meet our need of creating server-side DL's
based on the contents of a public folder.  Has anyone had any experience
with this product, or other similar products?  We're trying to keep an open
mind about what tool to use at this point and are open to suggestions.

Thanks!
Jon Butler

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Multiple messages

[Ryan Fennema]

Anyone else getting the same group of messages sent to them over and
over and over again?  This is the only list I seem to be having this
problem with.





N. Ryan Fennema, MCSE
Network Administrator
X-Rite Incorporated - Grandville, MI
Phone: (616) 257-2165 Fax: (616) 257-2165
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 minutes (Active Direct ory issue?)

[Elmer Stöwer]

I already posted this one to W2K diskussion group. Nobody replied. I think
it is an AD issue but it affects mainly our E2K-Server. So maybe someone
here has an idea. This really drives me crazy...

Situation:
--
Two 2K-AD-Servers (one of them Exchange and global catalogue server). Both
upgraded from NT half a year ago,
One Site, one Domain.
15 W2K and one XP clients.

Problem:

The Exchange/global catalogue server stands about every 10 minutes for about
45 seconds. No response on any click, nor it is possible to work with
outlook 'on' that server for the 45 seconds.

According to the event log I had a couple of issues with user rights in
local security (power user etc.) (SceCli every 8 minutes). I followed the
Microsoft guides and removed the group entries from local security policy.

No I don't have any event log entries anymore, but the problem persists.

speculation of Cause/Solution?
--
I guess that there is still a problem with AD. On the second server I can
see issues in the AD replication monitor for the first server. Objects could
not be replicated due to access failure.

On the Exchange/global catalogue server in the registry in 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NtFrs\Parameters\Replica
Sets\d5c32359-0ee1-42a9-8bac72a28682a096 I found a wrong path for
...\sysvol\domain. It points to an non existing directory.
So it seems that active directory is not able to find active directory.

I did not want to correct it via the registry. There must be a better way to
correct wrong path settings for the active directory container.

Here is the main question
-
I appreciate any hint how to fix the ntfrs/AD settings on that machine.
Where are path settings stored? Is it necessary to use DC promo to remove
and add the server from/to the domain or is there an easier way to fix it?

Best Regards

Elmer [glad that the machines are still running under these circumstances]
--
Elmer Stöwer
System- und Netzwerkadministration
CyberConsult GmbH
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.cyberconsult.de

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RE: Archive

[Thomas Di Nardo]

Friggin' Lyris!

Great to have you back Ed!

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Archive

I think we agree, more or less.  I don't believe that
e-mail administrators are the best ones to decide what
information to keep or delete and for how long.  I
also happen to think that lawyers aren't either.  My
point is that document retention policies, as with
many other policies like service level agreements,
aren't based on sound business decisions, but instead
are based upon fear.

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- David Florea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Users are always free to maintain whatever e-mails
> or files they want, and it's our job to help them do
> just that.  If they determine a file should be
> deleted, then we help them do that too.  That's not
> hiding anything, that's just good and efficient
> practice.  And I wouldn't think you're trying to put
> us admins in a different policy-making arena than
> that.  If you're talking about intentional
> destruction of evidence in a legal matter, that's
> different, and I agree with you.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> As I've always said, document retention will benefit
> those organizations who act ethically.  I don't
> think
> it makes sense to destroy all your evidence when
> those
> with an axe to grind keep all theirs.  Those with
> nothing to hide shouldn't be hiding it.
> 
> Ed Crowley
> hp Services
> 
> --- Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Ed, as usual, is correct.
> > 
> > Depends what the risk is to people making binding
> > commitments via email that
> > may cost the company $$$.
> > Email here is considered a public record (as
> > indicated in our email policy).
> > 
> > Emails are easy to create/modify by the other
> party.
> > Having an audit trail
> > of mails sent/received may be of value to your
> > company.
> > 
> > I have every email that has gone through the mail
> > gateway for the last 5
> > years on CD.
> > This process is automated to the point where 18
> > months worth of detail in
> > held in an oracle Db and the only human
> intervention
> > is to write the monthly
> > data on to CD's
> > 
> > This may assist us in any litigation issues, and
> as
> > a public company, we
> > have nothing to hide.
> > 
> > We keep archive tapes back to '89, when we arose
> > from the ashes of about 30
> > public sector organisations
> > 
> > I have has cases of senior managers needing
> e-mails
> > from up to a year old
> > that they had inadvertently deleted ( or told the
> > other party they never
> > received it)
> > 
> > Our litigation processes here are not quickly and
> > extensively used here in
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> > 
> > 
> > cheers
> > Dean
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 5:46 a.m.
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Archive
> > 
> > 
> > Another way to look at it:  What's the worth of
> old
> > e-mail?
> > 
> > Ed Crowley
> > hp Services
> > 
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Re: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)

[Tony Hlabse]

It is an IIS issue. Possible a DNS issue. You can have multiple AD
directories that are accessible by using server1.domain.com or domain.comm
but the user must know to type the FQDN in where the domain name field is. I
hope this pushes you in the right direction.

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From: "Robert Blomquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:23 PM
Subject: I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)


> HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't
trust
> them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.
>
> Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to run a totally
> separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships setup. The
> child domain will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want to run user or
> computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my separate
domain.
>
> I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
> E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
> environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
> open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my
users
> logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.
>
> Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.
>
> Robert Blomquist
> Network Administrator
>
>
>
>
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RE: Changing OWA Port

[James Liddil]

I now have the redirect working with the .htm file.  Thanks for all the
help,
you folks definitely have a better ability to search and know what to search
on than I do at this stage.  

Now when I go to the owa site I get a message indicating the certificate is
valid etc., but I also get "The names on the security certificate is invalid
or does not match the name of the site".  I issued the certificate to
"owaserver/exchange".  All I have found in the knowledge base is a reference
to applying SP, but I am already patched to the hilt.  

Jim Liddil

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> 
> 
> I used Q268822 for mine
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> 
> 
> (may wrap): 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q159402
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22do+it+like+you+need+the+mone
> y%22&hl=en&lr=
> &ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> 
> 
> I checked both and still get the same results.  
> 
> Jim
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > 
> > 
> > Ie will sometimes render asp as code only if you directly open the 
> > file and don't have an http:// in front of the file in the address 
> > bar.
> > 
> > And did you make sure to start and finish the line with <% %>
> > 
> > --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> James Liddil
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:11 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > 
> > 
> > So I modified it to "https://owa:443/exchange"; and I still 
> get only a 
> > view of the script
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:55 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here is the one line ASP code
> > > 
> > > <%
> > >   response.redirect ("http://www.bob.com:81/exchange";)
> > > %>
> > > 
> > > --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> > > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > James Liddil
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:49 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So I now have the SSL setup and am trying to make the asp 
> redirect 
> > > script that MS suggests at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/Tec
> > > hNet/colum
> > > ns/se
> > > curity/5min/5min-301.asp
> > > 
> > > To work.  But all I see when I enter http://owaserver is a
> > window with
> > > the script.  I know nothing about coding asp.  Do I need 
> to modify 
> > > this script? Or does someone have a better script?
> > Expecting PhD's to
> > > enter https:// is a difficult thing, let alone a CEO. :-)
> > > 
> > > Jim Liddil
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:26 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Making your own certificate is ugly. Not that the
> > > certificate is hard
> > > > to create, but due to all the calls from your lusers that can't 
> > > > understand why their browser is asking them to install an
> > untrusted
> > > > certificate into their system. Anything that is labeled as
> > > "untrusted"
> > > > sets off the panic alarm with the lusers resulting in
> > > lot's-o-calls to
> > > > the help desk.
> > > > 
> > > > But SSL/OWA good. Encrypts data on the wire. Non-SSL/OWA
> > > bad. All data
> > > > (including authentication data) unencrypted on the wire.
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Rob Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:37 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Get yourself (or make yourself) a certificate and go with SSL.
> > > > 
> > > > Rob
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:34 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Changing OWA Port
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We out s

STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Yves Soriano]

Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it did
not solved the problem.

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Echo...

[Woodruff, Michael]

Echo

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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Etts, Russell]

Hi there

I don't know if this was mentioned (I came in late on this), but there are
two things you should look at:

1) Is your Anti virus the culprit??  You may want to check processes in your
task list.
2) Is someone relaying off your server??  Crank up the logging on the SMTP
connector and see if you are getting any errors in the event viewer.

HTH

Russell

-Original Message-
From: Yves Soriano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it did
not solved the problem.

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RE: Archive

[Ed Crowley]

I think we agree, more or less.  I don't believe that
e-mail administrators are the best ones to decide what
information to keep or delete and for how long.  I
also happen to think that lawyers aren't either.  My
point is that document retention policies, as with
many other policies like service level agreements,
aren't based on sound business decisions, but instead
are based upon fear.

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- David Florea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Users are always free to maintain whatever e-mails
> or files they want, and it's our job to help them do
> just that.  If they determine a file should be
> deleted, then we help them do that too.  That's not
> hiding anything, that's just good and efficient
> practice.  And I wouldn't think you're trying to put
> us admins in a different policy-making arena than
> that.  If you're talking about intentional
> destruction of evidence in a legal matter, that's
> different, and I agree with you.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> As I've always said, document retention will benefit
> those organizations who act ethically.  I don't
> think
> it makes sense to destroy all your evidence when
> those
> with an axe to grind keep all theirs.  Those with
> nothing to hide shouldn't be hiding it.
> 
> Ed Crowley
> hp Services
> 
> --- Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Ed, as usual, is correct.
> > 
> > Depends what the risk is to people making binding
> > commitments via email that
> > may cost the company $$$.
> > Email here is considered a public record (as
> > indicated in our email policy).
> > 
> > Emails are easy to create/modify by the other
> party.
> > Having an audit trail
> > of mails sent/received may be of value to your
> > company.
> > 
> > I have every email that has gone through the mail
> > gateway for the last 5
> > years on CD.
> > This process is automated to the point where 18
> > months worth of detail in
> > held in an oracle Db and the only human
> intervention
> > is to write the monthly
> > data on to CD's
> > 
> > This may assist us in any litigation issues, and
> as
> > a public company, we
> > have nothing to hide.
> > 
> > We keep archive tapes back to '89, when we arose
> > from the ashes of about 30
> > public sector organisations
> > 
> > I have has cases of senior managers needing
> e-mails
> > from up to a year old
> > that they had inadvertently deleted ( or told the
> > other party they never
> > received it)
> > 
> > Our litigation processes here are not quickly and
> > extensively used here in
> > NZ, unlike *other* countries.
> > 
> > 
> > cheers
> > Dean
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 5:46 a.m.
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Archive
> > 
> > 
> > Another way to look at it:  What's the worth of
> old
> > e-mail?
> > 
> > Ed Crowley
> > hp Services
> > 
> > --- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > How long do most of you hold tapes?  We are
> > looking
> > > to establish a
> > > standard on how long to keep tapes in archived
> > > before reintroducing them
> > > back into the tape rotation to be overwritten. 
> I
> > > know there are many
> > > differnent ways to look at this as far as cost
> per
> > > tape, storage space,
> > > legal aspects, and disaster recovery and wanted
> to
> > > know what people
> > > thought was a good period
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RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv

[Chris Scharff]

If you read the entire thread, that's the process he was attempting to
avoid.

-- 
Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE
MessageOne
512-652-4500 x244

"When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born."
--Tao Te Ching 

> -Original Message-
> From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> 
> 
> There is a way to get this via exchange admin.
> 
> Goto mailbox resources on the server and highlight all 
> mailboxes, click on File and save windows contents into a csv 
> file.  Open the CSV file in excel and sum the Total K.
> 
> This does it accurately.
> 
> Kulwinder
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Chris, by any chance do you havbe an example of the script...
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> > 
> > 
> > Isn't exportable via admin.exe. Can be exported using script.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:30 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Trying to export a list of my mailbox's for my mangers that
> > > have both the total k and home server attribute listed. I'm 
> > > do this now by doing 2 different export's one that list the 
> > > home server via the dir export and the other via the save 
> > > window contents then merging them via access. Tried searching 
> > > microsoft site for the attribute list of the field Total K 
> > > but can't find it. Tried the words Total K in the header.csv 
> > > but said it was illegal. Does anyone know what the proper 
> > > name for this attribute is

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RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000

[Mike Lagase]

I am not doing this. It is happening automatically

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Stop posting this over and over again.  It's mind-numbingly annoying.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:36 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000
Subject: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Does anyone have an example similar to
http://www.cdolive.com/customerinfo.htm to work on Exchange 2000? I
tried the sample files, but the form used to get the Folder ID of the
public folder I need is not working correctly. It just sits there and
does nothing. If there is another way to get the Folder ID of the
folder, please let me know.

Maybe a .NET application will work as well. Any code snippets would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mike Lagase

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RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Ali Wilkes (IT)]

And how many processors do you have?  Recent changes?  Did this happen
suddenly (i.e. it was working fine until...)

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


What is your server configuration (RAM, Pagefile, etc.)?  Have you run
PerfMon in log mode to record any of this performance hit?

> --
> From: Martin Tuip
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 01:08
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> Subject:  Re: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU
> 
> Any antivirus software maybe scanning the store?
> 
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
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> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:17 PM
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> 
> > Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
> > have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it
> did
> > not solved the problem.
> > 
> > Any idea?
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RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?

[Edgington, Jeff]

I also have a perl-based script that will move mailboxes from a specific
db/server to a specific db/server (or list of dbs).

If you're interested, I'll through it in a zip and send it to ya.

jeff e.



-Original Message-
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


David,

you can move a users mailbox with script, look up CDOEXM

here's a unchecked code snippet:

Sub ADSIMoveMailbox(recipname As String, DestinationServer As String,
MailBoxStore As String, StorageGroup As String)



Dim objUser As IADsUser

Dim objMailbox As CDOEXM.IMailboxStore

Dim strMove As String

Dim exchPath



On Error GoTo errorhandler

Set objUser = GetObject(recipname)

Set objMailbox = objUser



If objMailbox.HomeMDB <> "" Then

exchPath = DestinationServer

If exchPath <> "" Then

   strMove = "cn=" + MailBoxStore + ",cn=" + StorageGroup +
",cn=InformationStore," + exchPath

MsgBox "Now Moving:" & objUser.Name

   objMailbox.MoveMailbox strMove <-- This does all the work

   objUser.SetInfo

   MsgBox "Move Mailbox operation has been completed for user " +
recipname

Else

   MsgBox "FAIL :Server " + DestinationServer + " not found"

End If

Else

 MsgBox "FAIL: no mailbox to move for " + recipname

End If



On Error Goto 0

GoTo EndofItAll



errorhandler:

If Err <> 0 Then

   MsgBox "FAIL: Move Mailbox Error while moving user " + recipname
+ ". Error Code is " + Str(Err)

   Exit Sub

End If

EndofItAll:

End Sub


HTH

- Original Message -
From: "Moore, David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


> Thanks for the info -
>
> Though I do know about LDIF and CSV dumps out of AD and I'm even good 
> with using ADSI to perform LDAP lookups but they all have one little 
> problem - they don't have the "move mailbox" option.  I am attempting 
> to move the users mailbox from one DB to another.
>
> david
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?
>
>
> LDIFDE very simple. Once you learn it.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q237677
>
> --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
> http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Moore, David 
> K
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?
>
>
> I am attempting to generate a search result in Active Directory Users 
> and Computers that only lists users in a specific database - I need to

> move all those specific users to new databases and I really don't want

> to write down all the names and move them manually.  So, here is what 
> I've done already:
>
> - No, can't simply navigate down to the servers' database object and 
> list of users then right click and move - no such option on the 
> context menu.
>
> - Tried every combination of "Exchange Mailbox Store" in the search 
> feature of ADUC - wouldn't you think it would be 
> "CN=databasename,CN=storagegroupname" with the "starts with" search 
> option?
>
> Help!  Any ADUC guru's out there?
>
> David
>
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RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000

[Dean Cunningham]

I blame Ed for reappearing at this time :-)

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 12:16 p.m.
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Oh boy.  The SWYNK has hit the fan.  Sorry Mike, it ain't you I guess.

-Original Message-
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Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:14 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
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Subject: RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Stop posting this over and over again.  It's mind-numbingly annoying.

-Original Message-
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Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:36 PM
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Subject: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Does anyone have an example similar to
http://www.cdolive.com/customerinfo.htm to work on Exchange 2000? I
tried the sample files, but the form used to get the Folder ID of the
public folder I need is not working correctly. It just sits there and
does nothing. If there is another way to get the Folder ID of the
folder, please let me know.

Maybe a .NET application will work as well. Any code snippets would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mike Lagase

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help

[Kim Schotanus]

help !!!
my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?

[Saunders, Jim]

If I remember correctly, you can't do a "starts with" type search if the
syntax of the attribute you're searching is "Distinguished Name". The reason
for this is that the attributes value is not represented as simply the text
of the Distinguished Name, but rather a link to the actual object in the
directory. The ldap attribute in question here is homeMDB, and it has the
syntax of Distinguished Name, hence the problem.

You can look at all of the attribute syntaxes by registering schmmgmt.dll
and adding "Active Directory Schema" to an MMC

-Jim
-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


"Start with" doesn't work in this situation, but "is exactly" with the full
path does:

CN=Mailbox Store (SERVERNAME),CN=First Storage
Group,CN=InformationStore,CN=SERVERNAME,CN=Servers,CN=First Administrative
Group,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=ORGNAME,CN=Microsoft
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=DOMAIN,DC=com

You could also create a temporary address list in ESM, preview the list and
run the move mailbox task through that gui instead.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Moore, David K
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


I am attempting to generate a search result in Active Directory Users and
Computers that only lists users in a specific database - I need to move all
those specific users to new databases and I really don't want to write down
all the names and move them manually.  So, here is what I've done already:

- No, can't simply navigate down to the servers' database object and list of
users then right click and move - no such option on the context menu.

- Tried every combination of "Exchange Mailbox Store" in the search feature
of ADUC - wouldn't you think it would be
"CN=databasename,CN=storagegroupname" with the "starts with" search option?

Help!  Any ADUC guru's out there?

David

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RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv

[Kulwinder]

There is a way to get this via exchange admin.

Goto mailbox resources on the server and highlight all mailboxes, click on
File and save windows contents into a csv file.  Open the CSV file in
excel and sum the Total K.

This does it accurately.

Kulwinder




> Chris, by any chance do you havbe an example of the script...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> 
> 
> Isn't exportable via admin.exe. Can be exported using script.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:30 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Total K attribute for Header.csv
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Trying to export a list of my mailbox's for my mangers that 
> > have both the total k and home server attribute listed. I'm 
> > do this now by doing 2 different export's one that list the 
> > home server via the dir export and the other via the save 
> > window contents then merging them via access. Tried searching 
> > microsoft site for the attribute list of the field Total K 
> > but can't find it. Tried the words Total K in the header.csv 
> > but said it was illegal. Does anyone know what the proper 
> > name for this attribute is
> 
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RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?

[Marc Mearns]

This is what you need to do.

1. Using ADUC use the find option 
2. Select the advanced tab
3. Select Field Exchange Mail box Store etc
4. Select a condition of Ends with
5. Put in your server name in the value filed using this format
/cn=servername e.g /cn=testserver1
6. You can filter your results using the view option from the pull down menu
7. When you have filter the database you can then select the users for the
database and then move them.

Regards


Marc Mearns

Let me know how you get on. 



-Original Message-
From: Saunders, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 May 2002 00:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


If I remember correctly, you can't do a "starts with" type search if the
syntax of the attribute you're searching is "Distinguished Name". The reason
for this is that the attributes value is not represented as simply the text
of the Distinguished Name, but rather a link to the actual object in the
directory. The ldap attribute in question here is homeMDB, and it has the
syntax of Distinguished Name, hence the problem.

You can look at all of the attribute syntaxes by registering schmmgmt.dll
and adding "Active Directory Schema" to an MMC

-Jim
-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


"Start with" doesn't work in this situation, but "is exactly" with the full
path does:

CN=Mailbox Store (SERVERNAME),CN=First Storage
Group,CN=InformationStore,CN=SERVERNAME,CN=Servers,CN=First Administrative
Group,CN=Administrative Groups,CN=ORGNAME,CN=Microsoft
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=DOMAIN,DC=com

You could also create a temporary address list in ESM, preview the list and
run the move mailbox task through that gui instead.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Moore, David K
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Using ADUC: How to list all users in a specific database?


I am attempting to generate a search result in Active Directory Users and
Computers that only lists users in a specific database - I need to move all
those specific users to new databases and I really don't want to write down
all the names and move them manually.  So, here is what I've done already:

- No, can't simply navigate down to the servers' database object and list of
users then right click and move - no such option on the context menu.

- Tried every combination of "Exchange Mailbox Store" in the search feature
of ADUC - wouldn't you think it would be
"CN=databasename,CN=storagegroupname" with the "starts with" search option?

Help!  Any ADUC guru's out there?

David

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Calendar Views in Public Folder

[William Adams]

Hi,

I'm currently working on a new calendar system for the place I work.  The
idea is to use a public calendar folder and be able to schedule Training
for classrooms into it.  The problem I face is in the Daily view.  I
notice after 6 entries of the same time (like 8:00 to 5:00) appointments
do not show up after this.  I can see them in Week view but it too doesn't
show them all (not enough space, I guess).  Is there a setting to show
more, or do I need to live with the fact that it can't see more than 6
appointments across.

Thanks,

William Adams

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RE: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000

[Tom Meunier]

Stop posting this over and over again.  It's mind-numbingly annoying.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lagase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:36 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000
Subject: ASP example to view contacts in Exchange 2000


Does anyone have an example similar to
http://www.cdolive.com/customerinfo.htm to work on Exchange 2000? I
tried the sample files, but the form used to get the Folder ID of the
public folder I need is not working correctly. It just sits there and
does nothing. If there is another way to get the Folder ID of the
folder, please let me know.

Maybe a .NET application will work as well. Any code snippets would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Mike Lagase

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I don't trust headquarters (OWA question)

[Robert Blomquist]

HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't trust
them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.

Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to run a totally
separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships setup. The
child domain will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want to run user or
computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my separate domain.

I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my users
logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.

Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.

Robert Blomquist
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Re: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU

[Tony Hlabse]

Is it causing a problem. Maybe you are getting spammed. They are many
reasons. Maybe it  could be some sending out a mass mailing from their
personal address book

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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: STORE.EXE running at 100% CPU


> Our Store service is constantly using between 90% to 100% of the cpu. We
> have applied SP4 (on Exchange 5.5) as recommended by Microsoft but it did
> not solved the problem.
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RE: Test

[Les Bessant]

And they made up for their egregious error by sending us all your messages
50 times.

Nice of them.

Les Bessant MCSE mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager, Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
Acting in a personal capacity
http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - New, improved and with more bounce!


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 28 May 2002 18:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


Thank you.  Internet.com bounced me for some unknown
reason and wouldn't let me resubscribe.  I had given
up but retried yesterday.

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- "Akerlund, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi there Ed!  :o)
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Test
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> Because it is there.
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> Ed Crowley
> hp Services
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> --- Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > no, because they can..
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Test
> > 
> > 
> > Because they want to ?
> > 
> > --
> > Martin Tuip
> > MVP Exchange
> > Exchange2000 List owner
> > www.exchange-mail.org
> > www.sharepointserver.com
> > --
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Filipe Joel de Almeida"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Subject: RE: Test
> > 
> > 
> > LoL... Why in God's name do ppl insist in sending
> > test messages to
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> > 
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
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> > Sent: sabado, 25 de Maio de 2002 5:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
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> > You passed now get out and enjoy the weekend
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> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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OWA with multiple domains

[Robert Blomquist]

HQ does not have a good record when it comes to W2K and E2K so I don't trust
them. I'm trying to minimize exposure to the inevitable screwup.

Our E2K server will be in a child domain to HQ, I want to keep user accounts
in a totally separate domain (ultimately W2K w/AD) with trust relationships
setup. The child domain to HQ will only be to hold mailboxes, I don't want
to run user or computer accounts out of this domain. This will occur in my
separate domain.

I have gotten the whole thing setup, my NT users can login and access the
E2K mailboxes in the AD domain. That part works fine (all in a test
environment.) What doesn't work is OWA.  OWA doesn't know which mailbox to
open when I type in the UN,PW,Domain of the NT domain. I don't want my users
logging in with the user accounts of the E2K child domain.

Is there anything else I can do or am I out of luck? Thanks.

Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator


Robert Blomquist
Network Administrator
Sabic Americas, Inc.
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RE: Test

[DjG]

To see if it works...

Dan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Filipe Joel de
Almeida
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test

LoL... Why in God's name do ppl insist in sending test messages to
mailing lists?

Filipe Joel de Almeida


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: sábado, 25 de Maio de 2002 5:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Test

You passed now get out and enjoy the weekend

- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: Test


Test

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