RE: how to prevent logon during move mailbox
This completely contrary to what I have observed as per my earlier post in this thread when mailboxes are moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000. And this problem was repeatable enough to be a major problem. This is also a known problem, i.e., the ghost mailboxes, in Exchange-5.5-to-Exchange-5.5 mailbox moves, but it wasn't as much of a problem in those cases because the directory did update properly and the new mailbox ends up getting all of the data. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to prevent logon during move mailbox Mailboxes can be moved while the user has them opened; neither the server push, pulling, or driving the move will complain, nor will the Outlook client. Bottom line, for issue-free movement of mailboxes, null the PriNTacct prior to moving the mailbox. MS recommends the user be prevented from accessing their mbx prior to the move, but does not state it must be done. The business of moving-a-mbx-while-the-user-is-logged-in vs. moving it w/o a PriNTacct association seemed worthy of testing. I investigated this for a couple hours back on exchsrvr5 with a few of easy tests using mbxs Mail Storm. The results were mixed (I have a results matrix of the test someplace). Bottom line: utter intermittency across the board and no consistency of retests. In most cases, mbxs moved with the user logged in moved w/o incident; but there where instances where messages sent to the moved mbx NDR'd. The mbx DN seemed to be the source of problems. I thought setting the tombstone to 1 day might have some positive effect, but it didn't matter. Tim. x3683 -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to prevent logon during move mailbox When the mailbox is being moved, the user won't be able to logon anyway. Matter of fact it will be a few minutes after the move is complete before they regain access to the mailbox... if you're not liking this.. then Ed has the better option... don't let them into the subnet that the exchange boxes are on. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to prevent logon during move mailbox Better to disconnect them from the network on which the clients reside. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: how to prevent logon during move mailbox Move them at 3 AM. On 2/6/03 17:48, Microsoft Exchange List Server [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSX2000+SP3 1 forest Do we have any Qarticle explaining how to prevent logon during an exchage 2000 move mailbox process? I have tried the article below it does work for msx2000 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;218920 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Directory Export - SMTP address
Not necessarily. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Listserver, Exchange MSER:EX Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Directory Export - SMTP address If the SMTP address is the default address for the mailbox, then you could use LDIFDE or CSVDE from a Windows 2000 box and export the LDAP mail attribute. Steve Smith Common IT Services Ministry of Management Services Province of British Columbia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (250) 387-8698 -Original Message- From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 6, 2003 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Directory Export - SMTP address How do you export the SMTP address without the entire DN using admin.exe to export to a .csv file? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
Your mail looks fine to me. Deckler's problem is undoubtedly Microsoft's fault. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Moir Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects I'm currently using Outlook Web Access to reply to mail on this list. While I apologise for any inconvenience this causes, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me to use an Exchange technology to interact with an Exchange mailing list. If I was as paranoid about you as you were about me and my fellow MVPs, I might say that its curious that you seemed to understand my posts when you wanted to rant at me but seem to have a problem when I point out how illogical you are, or ask you to actually answer a direct question instead of moving off point. But as behaving in that way would be unethical of you, I'm sure that’s not the case. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Fri 07/02/2003 21:05 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects Robert Moir -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects Haven't seen the majority of your messages because they come through like this. To whom were you speaking? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . r� zrmyzrÉ Z Zvh˧+-i٢2̞G( _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects
Drawn in? Do you know the difference between being drawn in and instigating? As to your comparison with doctors, I have yet to ever visit our family doctors' office building without seeing at least one and usually multiple phamaceutical saleswomen, each loaded down with samples. I play a little game when I go there: Spot the pharmaceutical saleswoman. It's an easy game to play because they're usually blonde, leggy, nicely dressed, wearing a nameplate, and carrying a large satchel. As to your comparison with lawyers, lawyers do not sell or work with any vendors' products. Period. They provide a personal service to interpret the law. The nature of their business cannot fairly be compared to IT. IT will only get to where you think it ought to be when EVERYTHING is open source. That will not happen in our lifetime. My salary is based on consulting on Microsoft technologies. The small stuff I get for being an MVP does not come nearly as close to affecting my impartiality as does my job, which pays me actual money. Even so, I have a personal code of conduct, and I abide by those of the professional organizations to which I belong, including the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and the IEEE Computer Society. You've wandered off on your usual rant about how evil and unprofessional the IT industry is (I seem to remember several such meanderings in the past few years, Greg) all ticked off by your feelings about the MVP Program. Nothing you've posted in all your posts has supported your supposition that we are biased because of the stuff we get from Microsoft. If you were 70, we could dismiss it as the ramblings of senility. However, since you're somewhat younger than that, I suggest you seek professional help. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects You're absolutely right, I let my emotions get the better of me. I am deeply embarassed that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this conversation. I apologize. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions I am not and have never said that what MVP's do or do not do is a problem. MVP's are the worst of this lot. They secretly get direct compensation from Microsoft and then try to pass themselves off as unbiased. But you look at their posts and it is obvious that they are simply paid advocates for Microsoft and part of their responsibility is to vilify anyone that says anything negative with regards to Microsoft. -Greg Deckler- Don't lie to me Greg, I have more technology than patience. The granting of the title MVP and any rewards/compensation that go with it is itself the problem. It seems to only be a problem for you. Yes, some MVP's have posted some critical comments. Who cares? The problem is the fact that MVP's exist in the first place. Clearly it upsets you greatly. Here it is again: - The IT industry is vendor focused In the words of Plato: Duh. Having or not having MVPs won't change that. - As long as the IT industry is vendor focused it will never be a profession on par with doctors, lawyers, etc. The IT profession is not the same kind of profession as law, to use your oft-cited example. In fact it's not nearly so clear-cut as you make it out to be. - MVP status is in and of itself a conflict of interest Whatever. interest. When a conflict of interest exists, it exists regardless of whether people act inappropriately because of that conflict of interest. Well, you certainly are quite agitated about this perceived conflict of interest problem. Good luck with that. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 5.5 Routing difficulties
Hey all, I am currently ripping my hair out over this and haven't been able to find enough information in the archives to help me. Am running Exchange 5.5 SP3 which receiving incoming e-mail from our VMS system. Well, our VMS system has run into many issues over the past weeks and e-mail has been directly affected by this. In an effort to take the VMS system out of the equation and keep mail running properly the powers that be want to make the Exchange 5.5 system our incoming mail point and have it route messages not address to it to other systems on campus. My problem is that I cannot get this darn thing working like it should. Currently our domain is central.cua.edu In attempts to test the routing, I set up a secondary box to receive mail in the same domain, in this case test1.central.cua.edu Attempts to send to this box, for instance, [EMAIL PROTECTED] are successful if the message originates from Outlook C/W, but messages from any other mail client using the SMTP on the Exchange system fails. I have created an MX record for the test domain as well as an A Record in the DNS. What am I doing wrong? Essentially we want mail sent to @central.cua.edu to obviously get delivered locally to the Exchange system and anything else i.e. test1.central.cua.edu or test2.central.cua.edu to go to the respective systems. I have looked at the Address Spacing on the IMS and Routing and even attempted some changes, but none have come to fruition. Ideas ? Thanks! -dan _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 5.5 Routing difficulties
How does it fail? Have you configured your Internet Mail Service to allow relaying? This is dangerous if this particular IMS is exposed to the Internet, however. If the non-Outlook clients support authentication, you should require it to send mail. See these links for more information: http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696 http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/security/mail/excrelay.asp If this doesn't help, please post more information, such as the particular error messages your users are receiving when they try to send mail. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Foerst, Daniel P. Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 5.5 Routing difficulties Hey all, I am currently ripping my hair out over this and haven't been able to find enough information in the archives to help me. Am running Exchange 5.5 SP3 which receiving incoming e-mail from our VMS system. Well, our VMS system has run into many issues over the past weeks and e-mail has been directly affected by this. In an effort to take the VMS system out of the equation and keep mail running properly the powers that be want to make the Exchange 5.5 system our incoming mail point and have it route messages not address to it to other systems on campus. My problem is that I cannot get this darn thing working like it should. Currently our domain is central.cua.edu In attempts to test the routing, I set up a secondary box to receive mail in the same domain, in this case test1.central.cua.edu Attempts to send to this box, for instance, [EMAIL PROTECTED] are successful if the message originates from Outlook C/W, but messages from any other mail client using the SMTP on the Exchange system fails. I have created an MX record for the test domain as well as an A Record in the DNS. What am I doing wrong? Essentially we want mail sent to @central.cua.edu to obviously get delivered locally to the Exchange system and anything else i.e. test1.central.cua.edu or test2.central.cua.edu to go to the respective systems. I have looked at the Address Spacing on the IMS and Routing and even attempted some changes, but none have come to fruition. Ideas ? Thanks! -dan _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
