RE: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG

2003-09-07 Thread Kelley, Jason
Check out Q article Q818830

We applied the single instance store hotfix before it was part of the
Sept hotfix rollup.  When we ran isinteg we had many mailboxes jump in
size.

Jason

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG


All,

Recently we have been having some strange behaviours with user
mailboxes, such as users being denied access to folders in their
mailboxes, rules disappearing etc.  After running ISINTEG on all stores
(approx 20), a number of errors were found and fixed...all good so far.
After remounting the stores everything looked fineuntil the next
morning when people came back to work.

A number of mailboxes had suddenly a LOT more mail in their inboxes and
deleted items folders, some users over 200mb worth, which threw a lot of
the organisation over the store limits and stopped them sending and
receiving mail.  We temporarily increased the store limits to cope with
the problem, however we are still at a loss to explain what happened.

After speaking with PSS, they are also at a bit of a loss as well. I've
also checked Technet and other online resources, but no mention is made
of this sort of problem.

- Some users had no effect on their mailboxes
- Some users had lots of mail return to either their deleted items or
inbox (we are surmising that the way the message was originally deleted
has determined where it came back to - shift-delete - back to inbox,
deleted via deleted items - back to delete items).
- The restored messages don't seem to be from the previous days. In all
of the cases we have confirmed, messages deleted the couple of days
previous didn't come back, but messages deleted prior to that did come
back.

Has anyone seen this behaviour before and could possibly explain what
happened ? As with all of these things, the people most affected were
senior management, and they are screaming for a satisfactory response.

Config:
Windows 2000 SP2 with hotfixes
Exchange 2000 SP2 - 6 Servers, 2 badly affected, 1 with minor effects, 3
not affected at all Trend Scanmail installed on all servers 1 Storage
group on each server, between 2 and 4 databases per storage group

On the servers that were affected, only one or two of the 4 stores was
affected.

As far as we can determine, either Exchange wasn't properly cleaning out
deleted items from mailboxes (but was reducing the size of mailboxes as
users were under the mailbox limit cap until the messages were
restored), OR something happened and exchange replayed some of the
transaction logs restoring old messages (but in that case all of the
stores in the storage group should have been affected, but weren't)

Thoughts ?

TIA

Glenn Corbett


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Re: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG

2003-09-07 Thread Glenn Corbett
Is that a premier only article ? cant seem to find it on technet.

G.

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Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG


Check out Q article Q818830

We applied the single instance store hotfix before it was part of the
Sept hotfix rollup.  When we ran isinteg we had many mailboxes jump in
size.

Jason

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange behaviour after running ISINTEG


All,

Recently we have been having some strange behaviours with user
mailboxes, such as users being denied access to folders in their
mailboxes, rules disappearing etc.  After running ISINTEG on all stores
(approx 20), a number of errors were found and fixed...all good so far.
After remounting the stores everything looked fineuntil the next
morning when people came back to work.

A number of mailboxes had suddenly a LOT more mail in their inboxes and
deleted items folders, some users over 200mb worth, which threw a lot of
the organisation over the store limits and stopped them sending and
receiving mail.  We temporarily increased the store limits to cope with
the problem, however we are still at a loss to explain what happened.

After speaking with PSS, they are also at a bit of a loss as well. I've
also checked Technet and other online resources, but no mention is made
of this sort of problem.

- Some users had no effect on their mailboxes
- Some users had lots of mail return to either their deleted items or
inbox (we are surmising that the way the message was originally deleted
has determined where it came back to - shift-delete - back to inbox,
deleted via deleted items - back to delete items).
- The restored messages don't seem to be from the previous days. In all
of the cases we have confirmed, messages deleted the couple of days
previous didn't come back, but messages deleted prior to that did come
back.

Has anyone seen this behaviour before and could possibly explain what
happened ? As with all of these things, the people most affected were
senior management, and they are screaming for a satisfactory response.

Config:
Windows 2000 SP2 with hotfixes
Exchange 2000 SP2 - 6 Servers, 2 badly affected, 1 with minor effects, 3
not affected at all Trend Scanmail installed on all servers 1 Storage
group on each server, between 2 and 4 databases per storage group

On the servers that were affected, only one or two of the 4 stores was
affected.

As far as we can determine, either Exchange wasn't properly cleaning out
deleted items from mailboxes (but was reducing the size of mailboxes as
users were under the mailbox limit cap until the messages were
restored), OR something happened and exchange replayed some of the
transaction logs restoring old messages (but in that case all of the
stores in the storage group should have been affected, but weren't)

Thoughts ?

TIA

Glenn Corbett


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RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password.

2003-09-07 Thread Erik Sojka
Cool!  Maybe some enterprising student can log into both email accounts and
send messages to each spouse.  

I hate you
you're fat
you're bald
I want a divorce

 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password.
 
 
 I've already expressed the security concerns.  They want to 
 use the full
 blown outlook with each of them having their own icon on the 
 same computer
 to click on and automatically log them into their separate mailbox.  I
 know...it's scary, but I'm not going to tell the new President of the
 University no.  I feel like a little worm on a big hook (crow).
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Icon's and piping username/domain/password.
 
 You didn't say whether both of these accounts are regular Exchange
 accounts or other.  If you set her up w/ Outlook Express for that, you
 can save the authentication in the accounts and all she would 
 have to do
 is click on the 'send/receive' button.  Might still have the issue of
 separating the mail between the two accounts though.
 
 If they are both Exchange server accounts, she can add the 
 other mailbox
 to her Outlook profile and open them both at the same time.  See
 http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/links.htm#addtobar.
 
 Oh, and that 'bother' with putting in login information, in general
 terms that's a security issue, though some CEOs never heard of the
 topic.  Has something to do with why the @#$% logins and passwords are
 required in the first place.  Sheesh.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Icon's and piping username/domain/password.
 
 
 Exchange 5.5
 
 We have a new president coming into the University who has 
 some unusual
 requests.  She would like to have two separate icons available on her
 desktop which point to two separate outlook accounts which 
 will pipe in
 the username/domain/password.  One for herself and one for 
 the husband.
 She does not want to be bothered with typing in login information.
 Never heard of this request before, so I thought I would post it.
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Changing License key.

2003-09-07 Thread Ron
Is it possible to change the license key from evaluation to fully
supported or do you have to do a complete re-install?
Is it the same for upgrading from Standard server to enterprise?

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Slightly OT: MOM with Exchange Module

2003-09-07 Thread Carmila Fresco

Is anyone using MOM with the Exchange 2000 module pack?  I'm interested
in knowing how useful it is in monitoring Exchange and alerting you when
something is wrong with exchnage.

Thanks,
Carmila




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