RE: CLEVER SPAM EMAIL

2002-07-17 Thread Freese, Roberta

Ah, yes but there's a bit more to that one, IIRC:

And yet, Baldric^WRobert, there are administrators out there who would not
recognize a clever spam email if it 

painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, 

singing Clever Spam Emails are Here Again.


(I knew I'd memorized Blackadder's Christmas Carol for some good reason -
it's a holiday tradition in our house!)  


Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


No offense intended to anyone, just thought I'd share ... back to lurking

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RE: The great smtp mystery

2002-03-08 Thread Freese, Roberta

I don't think it's a virus.  It appears to be a spammer cleaning his lists
by collecting bounces and/or replies.  Last week he was sending thanks for
lunch.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=++It+was+nice+to+talk+to+you+todayhl=ens
a=Ntab=wg
(first hit)

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enq=thanks+for+lunch
(noting the many hits in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings)


Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
City of Tallahassee
300 S. Adams St.
Tallahassee, FL 32301
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


I've been dealing with this same thing. I'm with you and trying to figure
out the motivation for the emails. They are not advertisements and contain
no attachments. We have had at least 20 people receive the exact same email
which is:
Fred,


  It was nice to talk to you today I will send the proposal tonight.


I'm blocking the sending domain because I don't like it but like yourself
I'm trying to chase it down.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The great smtp mystery


Many mailers can be set up to recognize that a huge TO: and/or CC: list is
spam. hotmail does this as does AOL.

- Original Message -
From: James Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


 Thanks. That would provide an explanation for how it happens. I can only
 guess as to what the motivation might be.


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RE: The great smtp mystery

2002-03-08 Thread Freese, Roberta

LOL!  GO git 'im, Jim!

Guess we'll need to ask for those full headers so we can tell folks where to
start whacking away with their own shoes (if tracing help is needed) ... 


Roberta

smart spammers need whacking as much or more than the dumb ones.


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


I didn't think spammers were smart enough to know how to clean their lists.

I've had to clean spammer off my shoe several times.

Jim Blunt

-Original Message-
From: Freese, Roberta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


I don't think it's a virus.  It appears to be a spammer cleaning his lists
by collecting bounces and/or replies.  Last week he was sending thanks for
lunch.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=++It+was+nice+to+talk+to+you+todayhl=ens
a=Ntab=wg
(first hit)

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enq=thanks+for+lunch
(noting the many hits in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings)


Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
City of Tallahassee
300 S. Adams St.
Tallahassee, FL 32301
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


I've been dealing with this same thing. I'm with you and trying to figure
out the motivation for the emails. They are not advertisements and contain
no attachments. We have had at least 20 people receive the exact same email
which is:
Fred,


  It was nice to talk to you today I will send the proposal tonight.


I'm blocking the sending domain because I don't like it but like yourself
I'm trying to chase it down.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The great smtp mystery


Many mailers can be set up to recognize that a huge TO: and/or CC: list is
spam. hotmail does this as does AOL.

- Original Message -
From: James Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: The great smtp mystery


 Thanks. That would provide an explanation for how it happens. I can only
 guess as to what the motivation might be.



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Find another vendor (was: Utility to save attachments)

2002-02-08 Thread Freese, Roberta


The Boulder Pledge: Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything
offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor will I
forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large
numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online
community.


The Boulder Pledge is a simple part of the solution to the spam problem,
devised by Roger Ebert (the Thumbs up! guy) at the Conference on World
Affairs at the University of Colorado. He announced this pledge in his
column in Yahoo! Internet Life's December 1996 issue.
http://www.zdnet.com/yil/content/mag/9612/ebert9612.html (Note: this URL no
longer works)


C2C has harvested my address from this mailing list and spammed it 3 times.

Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
City of Tallahassee
300 S. Adams St.
Tallahassee, FL 32301
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: Huot, Denyse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Utility to save attachments


I was looking for a similar product, which someone pointed me to www.c2c.com
and it is called Active Folders.  It costs some bucks but I think it will do
what you want.  

Hope this helps,

Denyse




-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


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-Original Message-
From: Cebuly, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


I got one, addressed to the smtp address I use for this list - NOT the
address I gave to vendors at MEC...


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RE: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?

2002-02-06 Thread Freese, Roberta

Yes, got one yesterday evening.   

I wrote Jon to complain about his spam (again [1]) and I copied the abuse
mailboxes at sprint.net [2] and at crocker.com.  I got 2 apologies from Jon;
the extra one is probably because either he reads the role accounts for
crocker or whoever does read them is forwarding complaints to the spammer
for listwashing.  One apology stated that We got your name from a list swap
with one of our partners.  Ya, right.

Whoever did the harvesting, this list is probably where we were harvested,
as this is the ONLY Exchange list where I post.  I only got the spam at my
posting address, not the public folder's address for this list.  

His server's in the spamcop list now, too
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=205.246.6.99
as 2 people (not me, not yet anyway) have reported that mailing as spam at
that site.

Here's a lookup to see who's listing him as a spammer:
http://www.openrbl.org/?i=205.246.6.99

Keep watching your inboxes; he may be batching them up to avoid clogging his
adsl line, LOL. 

Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
City of Tallahassee
300 S. Adams St.
Tallahassee, FL 32301
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


[1] C2C spammed me once before in 2000. I complained then, Jon Brown
apologized and listwashed me.  Our domain address is different now, which
may be why I didn't get listwashed from their latest harvesting efforts, if
they even bothered to keep a flamers list.  I don't know where they
harvested my address back then, but in retrospect, I bet it was this list.
You can bet I'm not going to recommend their products here.

[2] Sprint will do nothing, they need the $, so they support spammers.  


Headers:

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-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Anyone else get Spammed directly by this goon?


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c2c.adsl.spfdma.crocker.net resolves to 205.246.6.99

Checking VISI.com Relay Stop List (RSL), Osirus Relays List (OSIRUS),
Dorkslayers ORBS-clone (DORKS), Dorkslayers Zero Tolerance List (DORKZTL),
Open Relay Database (ORDB), Arbitrary Blackhole List (ABL), DevNull
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(XBL), Compunet (COMPU), FloNetworks List (FLOWGO), Summit Blocking List
(SBL), Spam Prevention Early Warning System (SPEWS), Blitzed Open Proxy
Monitor (BOPM), Spamhaus Block List (SBL),

205.246.6.99 listed in FIVETEN(127.0.0.7) XBL(127.0.0.4)

Five Ten (FIVETEN):
added 2002-02-01; 

RE: Email Forwarder

2001-11-19 Thread Freese, Roberta

I've noticed that ISPs are starting to block outgoing port 25 connections
except to their own mail servers.  They are doing that for the same reason
not leaving your mail server open relaying is a good idea, which is: spam
prevention.  In this case it is to prevent the other ISP customers, not your
colleague necessarily, from connecting to any of the thousands of known open
relays on the net or to make 'direct to MX' connections.  They figure the
main reason one would want to do that is to spam.  My home ISP does this and
I have not found it inconvenient.  Your colleague's ISP should be providing
mail relaying service and I should not think it would  be difficult for him
to use it?  

Some ISPs do refuse to relay even for customers if they change the return
address to one that is not @ that ISP, though.  My ISP does not do this,
thank goodness.

If you have to relay for him, I think the best advice is to use an
authentication system as discussed.  But not relaying is to me a better
plan, much easier to support!


Just my quick 2 cents.

Roberta Freese
City of Tallahassee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Forwarder


You got that right. I like your comments. I wish I knew the answers to your
ISP question. However, all I know is my boss wants me to figure out a way to
achieve this. I am really not in a position to question him, unless I find
reason that this is a bad idea. I would like to provide him a solution as
well as pit falls to the solution.

Thanks 

Ben

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Forwarder

If I read this right, he is asking you to allow him to send mail using your
server, while he is dialed up to his ISP.  Did I get that right?  Confirm or
correct me, and I and others can comment.  If I am correct, he is asking you
to allow him to relay.  BAD Idea.  What kind of ISP restricts individuals
from sending mail out?  Has he done something to earn that restriction?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, November 19, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Email Forwarder

I am not sure how to achieve this, so I was wondering if someone may point
me in the right direction.

I have a colleague that wishes to send out mail. His ISP however, is
restricting him from sending mail out. He wants to know if he can send mail
out from our email server, I guess sort of be a forwarder for him. Is this
at all possible? If it is how can I actually do that? Or do I have to create
an account for him and have him use pop3 settings etc.? Thank you all in
advance for you much appreciated knowledge and feed back.

BTW I have an exchange 5.5 sp4 server on NT 4.0 sp6a.

Ed

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RE: cannot recieve from HOTMAIL

2001-09-04 Thread Freese, Roberta

We had this problem earlier this year.  MSN tech support figured this out
for us, and I quote their reply to me, below:

Hello Roberta,
Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail

Hotmail and several other servers are unable to send to domains that list
only an IP in 
the MX record of the DNS.  This problem is easily resolved by adding a
CNAME record to 
the DNS and listing the canonical name in the MX record.

MSN Hotmail Customer Support


Hope this helps!


Roberta Freese
Information Systems Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: cannot recieve from HOTMAIL


Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Reporting-MTA: dns;hotmail.com
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Arrival-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:12:55 -0700
Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0

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