FW: 535 errors in security log

2001-08-24 Thread Semiglia, Michael

No, he does NOT have an exchange mailbox. He has Outlook installed with the
profile being built using his NT LAN ID which normally is the Exchange
mailbox alias for the end users here. However, since he does not have an
exchange mailbox, he cannot open Outlook. He just gets the generic error,
"Unable to open you folders". Also, the NT ID was not locked, the w/s was
locked and the password had expired.

As far as the last statement, we do have rightfax and winfax in use here.
Maybe on of those apps was trying to use the mapi profile on the w/s. 

Think I need to do a network trace and see exactly what is being sent over
the wire.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


wait... so he DID have a mailbox, right?  He just doesn't use it?

I'd say that the problems occured because the NT ID was locked, and some
other process was trying to access the mailbox, and because the ID was
locked, that interfered.  As far as I know, when Outlook is shut down, it's
shut down, and not attempting to talk to the Exchange server in any way.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Semiglia, Michael
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 6:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


We did a little more t/s last night. Had a user who left their NT w/s locked
for a week while out of town on a conference. During that week we think the
password expired. No stuck keyboard of process or any kind of coding
running. The user does NOT have an exchange mailbox. We have two email
systems here, Notes being the other. However, he did have Outlook installed.
We automatically build an outlook profile for users based on the NT login ID
which matches the mailbox alias. While we were getting the errors, I was
unable to check the outlook profile properties. The panel just kept hanging.
We then set the password in the account domain to never expire. The 535
errors immediately went away. At that point I was able to get into the
outlook profile properties and view all the configuration setups. The
conclusion thus far is that Outlook was trying to match up the alias to the
address box and kept failing because of the expired password and the fact
that there is no mailbox for that user. Did not realize that even though
Outlook is not running, it still has a portion of itself that is actively
talking to the exchange servers. I am not sure if this falls under the
category of bug or feature.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Perzactly - a process rather than a person is doing it.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Also, make sure that nobody is writing code that connects to your Exchange
Server for sending emails.  Their process may be trying to login with wrong
credentials.

S.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Could NAV be trying to open mailboxes with invalid credentials?  I don't use
it, not sure how it works.

Lori Hunter
LAN Administrator
Citi Commerce Solutions
(847) 597-3118

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nuc


-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


Nope, vanilla exch 5.5 server. Not even any connectors. We do have NAVMSE
running.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Anything else running on that exchange server?  Fax?  Virus scanner?

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


Have not spoken to Joes. We get this error for multiple people. Some on
laptops, some working home, some at the office. There is no common thread
that I have been able to discover. We use NT 4 w/s and use the built in
screensaver.



Michael Semiglia



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FW: 535 errors in security log

2001-08-24 Thread Semiglia, Michael

We did a little more t/s last night. Had a user who left their NT w/s locked
for a week while out of town on a conference. During that week we think the
password expired. No stuck keyboard of process or any kind of coding
running. The user does NOT have an exchange mailbox. We have two email
systems here, Notes being the other. However, he did have Outlook installed.
We automatically build an outlook profile for users based on the NT login ID
which matches the mailbox alias. While we were getting the errors, I was
unable to check the outlook profile properties. The panel just kept hanging.
We then set the password in the account domain to never expire. The 535
errors immediately went away. At that point I was able to get into the
outlook profile properties and view all the configuration setups. The
conclusion thus far is that Outlook was trying to match up the alias to the
address box and kept failing because of the expired password and the fact
that there is no mailbox for that user. Did not realize that even though
Outlook is not running, it still has a portion of itself that is actively
talking to the exchange servers. I am not sure if this falls under the
category of bug or feature.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Perzactly - a process rather than a person is doing it.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Also, make sure that nobody is writing code that connects to your Exchange
Server for sending emails.  Their process may be trying to login with wrong
credentials.

S.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Could NAV be trying to open mailboxes with invalid credentials?  I don't use
it, not sure how it works.

Lori Hunter
LAN Administrator
Citi Commerce Solutions
(847) 597-3118

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nuc


-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


Nope, vanilla exch 5.5 server. Not even any connectors. We do have NAVMSE
running.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Anything else running on that exchange server?  Fax?  Virus scanner?

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


Have not spoken to Joes. We get this error for multiple people. Some on
laptops, some working home, some at the office. There is no common thread
that I have been able to discover. We use NT 4 w/s and use the built in
screensaver.



Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Sounds like a process rather than a user is causing that.  For example, I
run a screensaver package that requires you to enter your LAN password
rather than some silly one-character windows password, and if the spacebar
(or any repeating key) on the keyboard is stuck down or depressed (like by a
chair arm) we will get thousands of these logon failures until the service
Dr. Watsons.

Have you spoken to JoeS?

Lori Hunter
LAN Administrator
Citi Commerce Solutions
(847) 597-3118

"Out think, Out smart, Out medicate" - Steinvivor


-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 535 errors in security log


NT SP6a ExchSP4 - audit turned on for log on failures and successes -
mandated by security guidelines. Exchange is in a resource domain and user
accounts are in the Account domain. Resource domain trusts account domain
with a one way trust.

Over the last couple of weeks I am getting hundreds of 535 errors every
MINUTE in the NT Security event logs on the resource domain controllers that
house the exchange system. This has the effect of eating up space on the
server due to the fact that we have to keep all of out logs around for a
while. The server guys swear that it is an Outlook/Exchange issue since they
are not seeing the errors on the account domain controllers log files. Poked
around MS KB and also Google, however was not able to find anything. Does
anyone have any ideas?


Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source:   Security
Event Category: Logon/Logoff 
Event ID:

FW: 535 errors in security log

2001-08-22 Thread Semiglia, Michael

Nope, vanilla exch 5.5 server. Not even any connectors. We do have NAVMSE
running.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Anything else running on that exchange server?  Fax?  Virus scanner?

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: 535 errors in security log


Have not spoken to Joes. We get this error for multiple people. Some on
laptops, some working home, some at the office. There is no common thread
that I have been able to discover. We use NT 4 w/s and use the built in
screensaver.



Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Sounds like a process rather than a user is causing that.  For example, I
run a screensaver package that requires you to enter your LAN password
rather than some silly one-character windows password, and if the spacebar
(or any repeating key) on the keyboard is stuck down or depressed (like by a
chair arm) we will get thousands of these logon failures until the service
Dr. Watsons.

Have you spoken to JoeS?

Lori Hunter
LAN Administrator
Citi Commerce Solutions
(847) 597-3118

"Out think, Out smart, Out medicate" - Steinvivor


-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 535 errors in security log


NT SP6a ExchSP4 - audit turned on for log on failures and successes -
mandated by security guidelines. Exchange is in a resource domain and user
accounts are in the Account domain. Resource domain trusts account domain
with a one way trust.

Over the last couple of weeks I am getting hundreds of 535 errors every
MINUTE in the NT Security event logs on the resource domain controllers that
house the exchange system. This has the effect of eating up space on the
server due to the fact that we have to keep all of out logs around for a
while. The server guys swear that it is an Outlook/Exchange issue since they
are not seeing the errors on the account domain controllers log files. Poked
around MS KB and also Google, however was not able to find anything. Does
anyone have any ideas?


Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source:   Security
Event Category: Logon/Logoff 
Event ID:   535
Date:   8/22/2001
Time:   12:00:02 PM
User:   NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer:   server1<---This is an exchange server in resource domain
Description:
Logon Failure:
Reason: The specified account's password has expired
User Name:  joes  <---User in account domain
Domain: fire   <--- Resource domain
Logon Type: 3
Logon Process:  NtLmSsp 
Authentication Package: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
Workstation Name:   PTLL78HB074 


Thank You!

Michael Semiglia
Exchange E-mail Engineering
*207 575-1094
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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FW: 535 errors in security log

2001-08-22 Thread Semiglia, Michael

Have not spoken to Joes. We get this error for multiple people. Some on
laptops, some working home, some at the office. There is no common thread
that I have been able to discover. We use NT 4 w/s and use the built in
screensaver.



Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 535 errors in security log


Sounds like a process rather than a user is causing that.  For example, I
run a screensaver package that requires you to enter your LAN password
rather than some silly one-character windows password, and if the spacebar
(or any repeating key) on the keyboard is stuck down or depressed (like by a
chair arm) we will get thousands of these logon failures until the service
Dr. Watsons.

Have you spoken to JoeS?

Lori Hunter
LAN Administrator
Citi Commerce Solutions
(847) 597-3118

"Out think, Out smart, Out medicate" - Steinvivor


-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 535 errors in security log


NT SP6a ExchSP4 - audit turned on for log on failures and successes -
mandated by security guidelines. Exchange is in a resource domain and user
accounts are in the Account domain. Resource domain trusts account domain
with a one way trust.

Over the last couple of weeks I am getting hundreds of 535 errors every
MINUTE in the NT Security event logs on the resource domain controllers that
house the exchange system. This has the effect of eating up space on the
server due to the fact that we have to keep all of out logs around for a
while. The server guys swear that it is an Outlook/Exchange issue since they
are not seeing the errors on the account domain controllers log files. Poked
around MS KB and also Google, however was not able to find anything. Does
anyone have any ideas?


Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source:   Security
Event Category: Logon/Logoff 
Event ID:   535
Date:   8/22/2001
Time:   12:00:02 PM
User:   NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer:   server1<---This is an exchange server in resource domain
Description:
Logon Failure:
Reason: The specified account's password has expired
User Name:  joes  <---User in account domain
Domain: fire   <--- Resource domain
Logon Type: 3
Logon Process:  NtLmSsp 
Authentication Package: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
Workstation Name:   PTLL78HB074 


Thank You!

Michael Semiglia
Exchange E-mail Engineering
*207 575-1094
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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