RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
Sounds like you recall correctly, because only last week I researched this (again, 'cos I'd forgotten) and a Compaq document stated 150Mb for a SG, 10Mb for a database. Neil -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 29 May 2002 16:48 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores If I recall, you take a 100MB hit for each SG you load and another 10MB hit for each IS within the SG. That's just to get the system started. Once the dynamic buffer caching starts growing the allocation to hold the "active" data, it's more. As Chris said, fragmentation of memory starts to become a problem. If you ever shut down one of the stores or SG's for any reason on a system that fully loaded, you may not be able to start it back up without a full restart. === Andy Webb[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.swinc.com Simpler-Webb, Inc. Austin, TX512-322-0071 -- Eating XXX Chili at Texas Chili Parlor since 1989 -- === -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows is a common thing. -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange 2000 server. I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage groups allowed. Can someone explain this to me. TIA --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
If I recall, you take a 100MB hit for each SG you load and another 10MB hit for each IS within the SG. That's just to get the system started. Once the dynamic buffer caching starts growing the allocation to hold the "active" data, it's more. As Chris said, fragmentation of memory starts to become a problem. If you ever shut down one of the stores or SG's for any reason on a system that fully loaded, you may not be able to start it back up without a full restart. === Andy Webb[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.swinc.com Simpler-Webb, Inc. Austin, TX512-322-0071 -- Eating XXX Chili at Texas Chili Parlor since 1989 -- === -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows is a common thing. -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange 2000 server. I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage groups allowed. Can someone explain this to me. TIA --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
Not really. I finished that class two weeks ago. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores Thank you very much John. You are AMAZING! --Felicity > The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG, however, > practical limitations kick in with 4. All the "Official" MS documentation > says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's > per SG. > > You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring > it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time. > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been > accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and > its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. > Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path > leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of > stores > > > I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange > 2000 server. > > I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage > groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the > Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." > > If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange > complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage > groups allowed. > > Can someone explain this to me. > > TIA > > --Felicity > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
Thank you for this clarification Chris. -- Felicity > The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have > doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them > mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows > is a common thing. > > -Original Message- > From: Felicity Smith > To: Exchange Discussions > Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM > Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of > stores > > I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange > 2000 server. > > I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage > groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the > Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." > > If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange > complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage > groups allowed. > > Can someone explain this to me. > > TIA > > --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
The theoretical 90 was scaled back to 20 for RTM and even at 20 I have doubts about the long term stability of a system which has all of them mounted due to memory fragmentation issues Perhaps when 64 bit windows is a common thing. -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 5/22/2002 12:20 PM Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange 2000 server. I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage groups allowed. Can someone explain this to me. TIA --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
Thank you very much John. You are AMAZING! --Felicity > The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG, however, > practical limitations kick in with 4. All the "Official" MS documentation > says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's > per SG. > > You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring > it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time. > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been > accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and > its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. > Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path > leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of > stores > > > I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange > 2000 server. > > I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage > groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the > Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." > > If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange > complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage > groups allowed. > > Can someone explain this to me. > > TIA > > --Felicity > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores
The underlying programming was built for 15 SG and 6 MDB's per SG, however, practical limitations kick in with 4. All the "Official" MS documentation says that Exchange 2K Enterprise version is limited to 4 SG's and 5 MDB's per SG. You have to remember that each SG is a separate storage engine, requiring it's own memory space and a big slice of processor time. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee -Original Message- From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ? about the number of storage groups per server and number of stores I thought you could create 15 storage groups and 6 stores per Exchange 2000 server. I currently have 4 storage groups and a max of five stores per storage groups. If I try to add another store Exchange complains saying "the Storage Group already contains the maximum number of stores allowed." If I try to add another storage group I get a message from Exchange complaining - This server already contains the maximum number of storage groups allowed. Can someone explain this to me. TIA --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
