RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-10 Thread East, Bill
It looks like you might have to lie to your Exchange server (through a
hosts file, perhaps) to get the headers you want, or, for that matter,
rewrite through a smarthost as sander suggested. But why worry about it?
Let the headers read what they may.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
 addressing is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
 
 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange 
 is writing. It
 is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information 
 on the Exchange
 Server. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, 
 or only .loc?
 One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your 
 .loc to .com on
 outgoing mail. 
 
 Sander
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to 
 .loc in advance of
 our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 
 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
 have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
 (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
 reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 
 looking for a way to
 change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but 
 was unable to
 find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
 attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but 
 nothing seems to
 be applicable.
 
 Is there any way to change this?
 
 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar
Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to
.com on outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I
have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Dave Vantine
It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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Re: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
IMO, Use a real dot com domain name for your internal network, not a .loc!

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55


 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
 our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
 have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
 reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
 change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
 find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
 attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
 be applicable.

 Is there any way to change this?

 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine

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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
spoofing your address.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing. It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the Exchange
Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance of
our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I
have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to
change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

- Original Message - 
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
 spoofing your address.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
 I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
 recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It
 is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange
 Server.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
 One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
 outgoing mail.

 Sander

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
 our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
 have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
 reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
 change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
 find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
 attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
 be applicable.

 Is there any way to change this?

 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine

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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

- Original Message - 
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
 spoofing your address.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
 I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
 recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It
 is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange
 Server.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only .loc?
 One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com on
 outgoing mail.

 Sander

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in advance
of
 our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3.
I
 have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have
 reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way
to
 change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable to
 find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
 attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to
 be applicable.

 Is there any way to change this?

 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine

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Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another.



- Original Message - 
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
  spoofing your address.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
  recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
 network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
 It
  is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
 Exchange
  Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
  One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
  outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance
 of
  our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3.
 I
  have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
  here:
  Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I
have
  reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way
 to
  change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
  find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
  attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
  be applicable.
 
  Is there any way to change this?
 
  Thanks
  -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread David McSpadden
I am not AD yet so I am only somewhat familiar with what you referenced.
I conceide your point though.
I accept my public flogging with only no regrets.
I was under the wrong understanding that if you setup an internal DNS that
was not Fully Qualified it would not
be able to be spoofed externally and thus my internal email server would not
be able to be some lonely kids relay
toy or spam generator.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE:
Change FQDN in Ex55


Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another.



- Original Message - 
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
  spoofing your address.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
  recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
 network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
 It
  is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
 Exchange
  Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
  One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
  outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance
 of
  our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K
Sp3.
 I
  have found and issue with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
  here:
  Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I
have
  reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a
way
 to
  change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was unable
to
  find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about every
  attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems
to
  be applicable.
 
  Is there any way to change this?
 
  Thanks
  -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread William Lefkovics
What are the odds? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another.



- Original Message -
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
  spoofing your address.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
  recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
 network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
 It
  is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
 Exchange
  Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
  One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
  outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 


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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Keith.Hanna
100:1?

(we all know how often they happen)

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 15:49
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What are the odds? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another.



- Original Message -
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
  spoofing your address.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
  recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
 network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
 It
  is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
 Exchange
  Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
  One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
  outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 


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Re: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc

- Original Message - 
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


What are the odds?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Best practices recommend otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet authority in
the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are guaranteed to be
globally unique. If another organization later registers the same DNS domain
name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is acquired by other
company that uses the same DNS names then the two infrastructures can never
interact with one another.



- Original Message -
From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email domain and
  spoofing your address.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
  recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
 network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
 It
  is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
 Exchange
  Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc?
  One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to .com
on
  outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 


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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Sojka
Can I buy a vowel?

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
 Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
 (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 What are the odds?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Best practices recommend otherwise:
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
 hnet/prodtechn
 ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp
 
 As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet 
 authority in
 the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are 
 guaranteed to be
 globally unique. If another organization later registers the 
 same DNS domain
 name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is 
 acquired by other
 company that uses the same DNS names then the two 
 infrastructures can never
 interact with one another.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** 
 RE: Change FQDN
 in Ex55
 
 
  They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
  Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
   It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your 
 email domain and
   spoofing your address.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
   I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
 generally, most
   recommendations now are to use a real domain name for 
 your internal
  network.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   It is not the email address that I want change. Our 
 current addressing
 is
   [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
   What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that 
 Exchange is writing.
  It
   is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
  Exchange
   Server.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email 
 address, or only
 .loc?
   One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite 
 your .loc to .com
 on
   outgoing mail.
  
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Re: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
clap clap clap clap clap clap

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Can I buy a vowel?


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc

 - Original Message - 
 From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
 Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
 (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 What are the odds?


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Best practices recommend otherwise:
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
 hnet/prodtechn
 ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp

 As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet
 authority in
 the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are
 guaranteed to be
 globally unique. If another organization later registers the
 same DNS domain
 name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is
 acquired by other
 company that uses the same DNS names then the two
 infrastructures can never
 interact with one another.



 - Original Message -
 From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
 RE: Change FQDN
 in Ex55


  They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
  Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
   It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your
 email domain and
   spoofing your address.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
   I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
 generally, most
   recommendations now are to use a real domain name for
 your internal
  network.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   It is not the email address that I want change. Our
 current addressing
 is
   [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
   What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
 Exchange is writing.
  It
   is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
  Exchange
   Server.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
 address, or only
 .loc?
   One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite
 your .loc to .com
 on
   outgoing mail.
  
   Sander
  


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RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Erik Sojka
Hmmm.  I have some money left over.  Can I get that ceramic dalmatian for
$50? 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 clap clap clap clap clap clap
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
 Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
 (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Can I buy a vowel?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  I'll put $100.00 on domain.loc
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:49 AM
  Subject: RE: **NOT SPAM (ME)** Re: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** 
 RE: ** SPAM
  (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  What are the odds?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy David
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Best practices recommend otherwise:
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
  hnet/prodtechn
  ol/ad/windows2000/plan/bpaddsgn.asp
 
  As a best practice use DNS names registered with an Internet
  authority in
  the Active Directory namespace. Only registered names are
  guaranteed to be
  globally unique. If another organization later registers the
  same DNS domain
  name, or if your organization merges with, acquires, or is
  acquired by other
  company that uses the same DNS names then the two
  infrastructures can never
  interact with one another.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:19 AM
  Subject: ** SPAM (5.50/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
  RE: Change FQDN
  in Ex55
 
 
   They won't authenicate through the real domain name servers.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:16 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   What prevents them from doing that with any real domain name?
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: David McSpadden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:10 AM
   Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your
  email domain and
spoofing your address.
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
 Andy David
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
  generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for
  your internal
   network.
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
It is not the email address that I want change. Our
  current addressing
  is
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
   
What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
  Exchange is writing.
   It
is now writing this based upon the internal DNS 
 information on the
   Exchange
Server.
   
-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
  address, or only
  .loc?
One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite
  your .loc to .com
  on
outgoing mail.
   
Sander
   
 
 
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not registerable)
domain names now.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
 I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
 generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain 
 name for your internal network.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
 addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
 
 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange 
 is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal 
 DNS information on the Exchange Server. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, 
 or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could 
 rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail. 
 
 Sander
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to 
 .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We 
 are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue 
 with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
 (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have reviewed both Robichaux's 
 and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change 
 this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was 
 unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at 
 just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects 
 especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
 
 Is there any way to change this?
 
 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Anyone with .005 of a brain who can read mail headers can see whether mail
is spoofed or not.

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 -Original Message-
 From: David McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:11 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 It looks good on paper to avoid someone stealing your email 
 domain and spoofing your address.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
 I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
 generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain 
 name for your internal network.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
 addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 
 
 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange 
 is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal 
 DNS information on the Exchange Server. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, 
 or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could 
 rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail. 
 
 Sander
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to 
 .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We 
 are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue 
 with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
 (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have reviewed both Robichaux's 
 and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change 
 this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was 
 unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at 
 just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects 
 especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
 
 Is there any way to change this?
 
 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine
 
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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Well, I wish they would make up their minds!

- Original Message - 
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
registerable)
 domain names now.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
  generally, most recommendations now are to use a real domain
  name for your internal network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current
  addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange
  is writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal
  DNS information on the Exchange Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address,
  or only .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could
  rewrite your .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to
  .loc in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We
  are running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue
  with the SMTP header that now sent out as seen
  here:
  Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
  (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I have reviewed both Robichaux's
  and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for a way to change
  this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was
  unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at
  just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
  especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
 
  Is there any way to change this?
 
  Thanks
  -Dave Vantine
 
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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
They made up their mind a few years back - register the friggin domain and
move on.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
 registerable)
  domain names now.
 
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
   I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but 
 generally, 
   most recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your 
   internal network.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
   addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
   What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is 
   writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS 
   information on the Exchange Server.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email 
 address, or only 
   .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your 
   .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
  
   Sander
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in 
   advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 
   5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP 
 header that 
   now sent out as seen
   here:
   Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc 
 (unknown[216.237.98.130]. 
   I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 
   looking for a way to change this so it appears to come from an 
   external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for 
 this. I have 
   also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
   especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
  
   Is there any way to change this?
  
   Thanks
   -Dave Vantine
  
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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
Move on to what?

- Original Message - 
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:23 PM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN
in Ex55


 They made up their mind a few years back - register the friggin domain and
 move on.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
  Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
   Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
  registerable)
   domain names now.
  
   --
   Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
   Sr. Systems Administrator
   Inovis Inc.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
  generally,
most recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your
internal network.
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
It is not the email address that I want change. Our current
addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
   
What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is
writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS
information on the Exchange Server.
   
-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
  address, or only
.loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your
.loc to .com on outgoing mail.
   
Sander
   
-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex
5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP
  header that
now sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
  (unknown[216.237.98.130].
I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5
looking for a way to change this so it appears to come from an
external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for
  this. I have
also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects
especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
   
Is there any way to change this?
   
Thanks
-Dave Vantine
   
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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Keep in mind a few things Bridgeboy

-I'm bigger than you are
-February isn't that far away

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) 
 ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 Move on to what?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:23 PM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** 
 RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  They made up their mind a few years back - register the 
 friggin domain 
  and move on.
 
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
   Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
   registerable)
domain names now.
   
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
 I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
   generally,
 most recommendations now are to use a real domain 
 name for your 
 internal network.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

 It is not the email address that I want change. Our current 
 addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that 
 Exchange is 
 writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS 
 information on the Exchange Server.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
   address, or only
 .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could 
 rewrite your 
 .loc to .com on outgoing mail.

 Sander

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

 I recently reconfigured our internal network from 
 .com to .loc 
 in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are 
 running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue 
 with the 
 SMTP
   header that
 now sent out as seen
 here:
 Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
   (unknown[216.237.98.130].
 I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on 
 Exch 5.5 
 looking for a way to change this so it appears to 
 come from an 
 external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for
   this. I have
 also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5 
 objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.

 Is there any way to change this?

 Thanks
 -Dave Vantine

 
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Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
I was wondering how long it would take you to read that. [1]

[1] I run fast.



- Original Message - 
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
(6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Keep in mind a few things Bridgeboy

 -I'm bigger than you are
 -February isn't that far away

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:25 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00)
  ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Move on to what?
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:23 PM
  Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
  RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
   They made up their mind a few years back - register the
  friggin domain
   and move on.
  
   --
   Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
   Sr. Systems Administrator
   Inovis Inc.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
Well, I wish they would make up their minds!
   
- Original Message -
From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
   
   
 Actually, they actively recommend against non-standard (ie not
registerable)
 domain names now.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
  I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
generally,
  most recommendations now are to use a real domain
  name for your
  internal network.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  It is not the email address that I want change. Our current
  addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
  What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
  Exchange is
  writing. It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS
  information on the Exchange Server.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
address, or only
  .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could
  rewrite your
  .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
 
  Sander
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
  I recently reconfigured our internal network from
  .com to .loc
  in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are
  running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue
  with the
  SMTP
header that
  now sent out as seen
  here:
  Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
(unknown[216.237.98.130].
  I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on
  Exch 5.5
  looking for a way to change this so it appears to
  come from an
  external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for
this. I have
  also looked at just about every attribute within the Ex5.5
  objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to be applicable.
 
  Is there any way to change this?
 
  Thanks
  -Dave Vantine
 
 
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RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Chris Scharff
FWIW, I disagree. :*

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Change FQDN in Ex55
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself. 
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange Server. 

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to
.com on outgoing mail. 

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5
Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP header that now
sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I
have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for
a way to change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was
unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about
every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing
seems to be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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Re: ** SPAM (6.80/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Andy David
lol.
Thats ok. Ive got a MessageOne TechEd shirt.
Nothing can phase me.


- Original Message - 
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: ** SPAM (6.80/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


FWIW, I disagree. :*

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:03 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Change FQDN in Ex55
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but generally, most
recommendations now are to use a real domain name for your internal
network.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

It is not the email address that I want change. Our current addressing
is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that Exchange is writing.
It is now writing this based upon the internal DNS information on the
Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email address, or only
.loc? One way would be with a smart host that could rewrite your .loc to
.com on outgoing mail.

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55

I recently reconfigured our internal network from .com to .loc in
advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are running Ex 5.5
Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue with the SMTP header that now
sent out as seen
here:
Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc (unknown[216.237.98.130]. I
have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on Exch 5.5 looking for
a way to change this so it appears to come from an external FQDN but was
unable to find any reference for this. I have also looked at just about
every attribute within the Ex5.5 objects especially the IMS but nothing
seems to be applicable.

Is there any way to change this?

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
So do I.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) 
 ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
 I was wondering how long it would take you to read that. [1]
 
 [1] I run fast.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:57 PM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM
 (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
 
 
  Keep in mind a few things Bridgeboy
 
  -I'm bigger than you are
  -February isn't that far away
 
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  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:25 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00)
   ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Move on to what?
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:23 PM
   Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) **
   RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
They made up their mind a few years back - register the
   friggin domain
and move on.
   
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


 Well, I wish they would make up their minds!

 - Original Message -
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
 Subject: ** SPAM (6.00/5.00) ** RE: Change FQDN in Ex55


  Actually, they actively recommend against 
 non-standard (ie not
 registerable)
  domain names now.
 
  
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  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:03 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   I don't see the point of a .loc domain myself.
   I think MS was recommending that in the early days, but
 generally,
   most recommendations now are to use a real domain
   name for your
   internal network.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:58 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   It is not the email address that I want change. 
 Our current 
   addressing is [EMAIL PROTECTED].
  
   What I am looking to change is the SMTP header that
   Exchange is
   writing. It is now writing this based upon the 
 internal DNS 
   information on the Exchange Server.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:34 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
  
   Do you want to have both .com and .loc as an email
 address, or only
   .loc? One way would be with a smart host that could
   rewrite your
   .loc to .com on outgoing mail.
  
   Sander
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 09 June 2003 02:13 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Change FQDN in Ex55
  
   I recently reconfigured our internal network from
   .com to .loc
   in advance of our planned migration/upgrade to AD. We are 
   running Ex 5.5 Sp4 on W2K Sp3. I have found and issue
   with the
   SMTP
 header that
   now sent out as seen
   here:
   Received: from challenger.creatcomp.loc
 (unknown[216.237.98.130].
   I have reviewed both Robichaux's and McBee's books on
   Exch 5.5
   looking for a way to change this so it appears to
   come from an
   external FQDN but was unable to find any reference for
 this. I have
   also looked at just about every attribute within 
 the Ex5.5 
   objects especially the IMS but nothing seems to be 
   applicable.
  
   Is there any