RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
I just check the backup logs every now and again. Knowing how long it takes
to backup a database of a certain size, I can guess at how the databases are
growing by seeing how much longer it takes to do a backup.

Most places will bounce the servers once a month. You can check file sizes
then, as well.

One last solution in the "free and easy" category is to set up a mail loop.
Then you'll know the databases will quickly be too large for the system
resources at hand and will likely shut down, gracefully or otherwise.

At any rate, unless you're having a mail loop or some other disaster, disk
utilization isn't something you necessarily check every day. And in such a
disaster, it's a foregone conclusion the numbers will be very BAD until
after you clean things up. Since cleanup often involves stopping and
restarting things, you can check on file sizes when you're done.

No worries.

(:=

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Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Andy David
me eyeballs.

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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Blackstone
There are only 2 files.

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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

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me eyeballs.

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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Morgan, Joshua
Where can we get this hehe







Joshua Morgan 
PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.profit-lab.com 
http://ncontrol.info


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on your
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Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.  

Thank you,
 
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
I know one guy who's trained reptiles to keep an eye on his servers. 

Don't tell me you've never heard of monitor lizards...

(:=

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There are only 2 files.

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To: Exchange Discussions
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me eyeballs.

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Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


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Thank you,

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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Blackstone
Oh...
Performance Monitor

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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.  

Thank you,
 
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on your
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Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
Sunken R'yleh consulting. They're in the local yellow pages.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> Where can we get this hehe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joshua Morgan 
> PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://www.profit-lab.com 
> http://ncontrol.info
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation 
> of free drive
> space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state 
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants 
> on, it's time to
> seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to 
> most IT staff
> to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, 
> I should warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and 
> then delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> me eyeballs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
> Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk 
> utilization on your
> Exchange Servers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
I use a distributed network of hundreds of hypersensitive sensors which
alert me of even the most picayune performance issues with my systems,
filtered through a small set of filters, using fuzzy logic and artificial
intelligence programming, resulting in only real issues being brought to my
attention. Its quite a system, really.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> Oh...
> Performance Monitor
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write 
> utilization.  
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation 
> of free drive
> space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state 
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants 
> on, it's time to
> seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to 
> most IT staff
> to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, 
> I should warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and 
> then delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> me eyeballs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
> Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk 
> utilization on your
> Exchange Servers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
I got a great app for that, as well, but with a much less appealing GUI.

Performance Monitor. Read all about it!

(:=

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.  

Thank you,
 
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
How much are you willing to pay?

(:=

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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Where can we get this hehe







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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
The GUI on my monitoring application cycles through 5 or 6 different looks.
Some are significantly more attractive than others, but they all convey the
message pretty well.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I got a great app for that, as well, but with a much less 
> appealing GUI.
> 
> Performance Monitor. Read all about it!
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Gonzalez, Alex
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write 
> utilization.  
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
> drive
> space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state 
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
> time to
> seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
> staff
> to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
> warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
> delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> me eyeballs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
> Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
> your
> Exchange Servers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.  



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.  

Thank you,
 
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

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From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
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Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Coleman, Hunter
Look at the Disk Queue Length counters on the PhysicalDisk object. Values
for these should be zero or very low on a sustained basis. Higher numbers
indicate that the disk subsystem can't keep up with the I/O requests.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Ok well its generally around 10 but it has spiked to 100.  But that
doesn't last more than a second.  Thanks


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From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Look at the Disk Queue Length counters on the PhysicalDisk object.
Values
for these should be zero or very low on a sustained basis. Higher
numbers
indicate that the disk subsystem can't keep up with the I/O requests.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your
Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
delete
them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Origi

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
10 means that at that time, there are 10 operations pending disk
availability. The goal is <2.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> Ok well its generally around 10 but it has spiked to 100.  But that
> doesn't last more than a second.  Thanks
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Look at the Disk Queue Length counters on the PhysicalDisk object.
> Values
> for these should be zero or very low on a sustained basis. Higher
> numbers
> indicate that the disk subsystem can't keep up with the I/O requests.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our 
> users put on
> the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
> sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
> percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
> better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
> is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the 
> time is my
> system accessing the disk?"
> 
> If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the 
> time. If it's
> hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
> frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What 
> you SHOULD
> be
> spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
> utilization
> for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
> thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Gonzalez, Alex
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk 
> should I use.
> I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
> out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 
> 100 in 0-20
> second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
> obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget 
> and hope it
> gets approved.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Oh...
> Performance Monitor
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
> drive
> space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state 
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
> time to
> seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
> staff
> to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
> warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
> delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive
space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of partial
undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to
seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff
to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I should
warn
you, som

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Well we just hit 10.  Hehe.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthu

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
On processor queue lengths? What's the average over a period of a few
minutes? Sometimes it'll spike, but it's when the average stays above 2 for
a long time that you have the Bad ThingsT happen to your server.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Well we just hit 10.  Hehe.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discuss

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Hitting 10 is looking pretty rare.  The average is .5


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Mess

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Well the average is like .5.  10 was the max on one pass but then I
started to see max around 4.  I haven't seen 10 since. 


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

On processor queue lengths? What's the average over a period of a few
minutes? Sometimes it'll spike, but it's when the average stays above 2
for
a long time that you have the Bad ThingsT happen to your server.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Well we just hit 10.  Hehe.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Drew Nicholson
Hey, this is america, buddy.  We use feet and inches here :P




-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined,
consider what thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the
IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of
partial undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes.
Same attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I
should warn you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server
and then delete them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Ken Cornetet
Except drug dealers, they tend to be fluent in metric.

-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Hey, this is america, buddy.  We use feet and inches here :P




-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined,
consider what thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the
IT staff.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Oh I know to use perfmon but which one under physical disk should I use.
I used read/write time and it goes to like 2000.  I am trying to find
out something that will show a real percentage between 0 and 100 in 0-20
second intervals.  I am willing to look at something third party but
obviously it will depend on price.  I have to put in budget and hope it
gets approved.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Oh...
Performance Monitor

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write utilization.

Thank you,

Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free
drive space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state of
partial undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes.
Same attractive lady, but with more clothing.

When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's
time to seriously increase drive space.

When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.

Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT
staff to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I
should warn you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server
and then delete them slowly while watching those parkas come off...

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


me eyeballs.

- Original Message -
From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on
your Exchange Servers.

Thank you,

Alex


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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
OK, probably not an issue. Good. Now you only have 20 other things to check.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Well the average is like .5.  10 was the max on one pass but then I
started to see max around 4.  I haven't seen 10 since. 


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

On processor queue lengths? What's the average over a period of a few
minutes? Sometimes it'll spike, but it's when the average stays above 2
for
a long time that you have the Bad ThingsT happen to your server.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


Well we just hit 10.  Hehe.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under System... Processor Queue Lengths. One for each processor.

And as far as consultants go, you just have to make sure you hire the
*right* ones. You didn't hire me or any of my associates, for
instance...
But that's another topic and there's no need to get into that on the
list.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


We hired consultants and I have to now rebuild every box they built.  I
am not going into details on that.  As far as processor queue length, I
don't see the option.  I see DPC's queued.  Is that what you mean?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Outlook will be slow for a variety of reasons. Disk usage on the server
is
frequently NOT the issue, unless things on the server are freakishly
bad.

Consider processor queue lengths. You can have lovely-looking processor
utilization percentages, but Exchange can spawn some threads that hog
the
processor without really using it. If your processor queue length is
over 2
for an extended period of time, you need to get another processor. Not a
faster one, an additional one.

Consider network architecture. How do the clients connect to the server?
What's in the way?

I and a bunch of other consultants could go on and on and on and I hope
that
enables you to see the value of hiring a consultant to do just that for
you.
I also hope it enables you to see why a consultant wouldn't necessarily
post
a complete solution, as that's essentially giving away free stuff. Your
situation is one that won't go away with a quick peek here or there. You
need a comprehensive approach to server performance. That's where the
consultant comes in for the quick hit.

Now, if you'd prefer to do it on your own, be prepared to digest a lot
of
reading material. It can be done, but if time is more precious than
money,
it may be something you can't afford to do through limiting monetary
costs.

Fast, cheap, good: pick any two.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The disks get very busy and keep up with the load that our users put on
the box.  RAM is good Processor is good but the lights on the drives
sometimes don't even blink the disks are so busy.  I need to put that
percentage of utilization in to a report to take to Management to get
better equipment.  Where I come from my word and the fact that Outlook
is "slow" is just not enough.  You need to have metrics to prove it.


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What do you mean, percentages? You mean, "What percent of the time is my
system accessing the disk?"

If it's handling an SMTP queue, then probably a lot of the time. If it's
hosting a few web pages and has a ton of RAM, probably not all that
frequently. Why is disk utilization over time important? What you SHOULD
be
spending the money on is a baseline study to see what's normal
utilization
for the server. Then, once the baseline is determined, consider what
thresholds are appropriate for warnings and alerts to the IT staff.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Excha

RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-20 Thread Ed Crowley
That's just your screen saver, silly.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


The GUI on my monitoring application cycles through 5 or 6 different
looks. Some are significantly more attractive than others, but they all
convey the message pretty well.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I got a great app for that, as well, but with a much less
> appealing GUI.
> 
> Performance Monitor. Read all about it!
> 
> (:=
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Gonzalez, Alex
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write
> utilization.  
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation of free 
> drive space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants on, it's 
> time to seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to most IT 
> staff to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, I 
> should warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and then
> delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> me eyeballs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
> Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk utilization on 
> your Exchange Servers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities

2002-12-23 Thread John Matteson
You mean users, right... Oh.. You mentioned *intelligence*.. Sorry my
bad.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities


I use a distributed network of hundreds of hypersensitive sensors which
alert me of even the most picayune performance issues with my systems,
filtered through a small set of filters, using fuzzy logic and
artificial intelligence programming, resulting in only real issues being
brought to my attention. Its quite a system, really.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> Oh...
> Performance Monitor
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I apologize I meant activity utilization like read write
> utilization.  
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> -Original Message-
> From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I got this one program that presents a graphic representation
> of free drive
> space. At 50% or more, it shows an attractive lady in a state 
> of partial
> undress. As the drive free space decreases, the picture changes. Same
> attractive lady, but with more clothing.
> 
> When she's got two parkas, mittens, a scarf, and snow pants
> on, it's time to
> seriously increase drive space.
> 
> When she's in a coffin, six feet under, your server's dead.
> 
> Very easy GUI to understand and really gives an incentive to
> most IT staff
> to keep the drives free and clear of useless junk. Although, 
> I should warn
> you, some folks like to load a bunch of files on a server and 
> then delete
> them slowly while watching those parkas come off...
> 
> (:=
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> me eyeballs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:41 AM
> Subject: Exchange Disk Utilization utilities
> 
> 
> I was wondering what everyone used to monitor the disk
> utilization on your
> Exchange Servers.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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