RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I unfortunately have
to waste the time to do one.

Alex
-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have had 2GB+ of whitespace

But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
you should do them?

The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
unnecessary interruption in uptime.

As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption?



-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I unfortunately have
to waste the time to do one.

Alex
-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have had 2GB+ of whitespace

But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
you should do them?

The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
unnecessary interruption in uptime.

As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Roger Seielstad
Um, no. Why would it?



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 -Original Message-
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:53 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I 
 unfortunately have
 to waste the time to do one.
 
 Alex
 -Original Message-
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I have had 2GB+ of whitespace
 
 But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
 you should do them?
 
 The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was 
 going to do
 a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
 Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
 unnecessary interruption in uptime.
 
 As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
 one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are 
 within your
 backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
 defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
 deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
 whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
 are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
 while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   
 
 
 Ben Winzenz
 Network Engineer
 Gardner  White
 (317) 581-1580 ext 418
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
 Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
 Conversation: Routine Maintenance
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
 They take a long time.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 me Im no guru like the other people here...
 so I let the server do it
 Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
 Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check 
 done (note NO
 BLB!!)
 my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
 done...
 
 My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
 run's run's and run's
 
 OK once it a great while I reboot it
 some times I look at my log's..some times I dont
 
 If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
 while...or so...
 
 I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
 now where is that hammer..
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 Hello All.
 
 Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
 kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.
 
 Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?
 
 Exchange 5.5 sp4
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 Outlook 2000/XP clients
 
 Thanks!
 
 Samantha
 
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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Ben Winzenz
Why would it?  White space is simply put, space that has been allocated
for use by the database, but is currently not being used. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:53 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption?



-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I unfortunately have
to waste the time to do one.

Alex
-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have had 2GB+ of whitespace

But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
you should do them?

The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
unnecessary interruption in uptime.

As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Couch, Nate
Not that I have seen.  From what I know MS Exchange just treats this as
space to stuff more stuff into.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:52 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I unfortunately have
 to waste the time to do one.
 
 Alex
 -Original Message-
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I have had 2GB+ of whitespace
 
 But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
 you should do them?
 
 The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
 a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
 Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
 unnecessary interruption in uptime.
 
 As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
 one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
 backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
 defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
 deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
 whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
 are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
 while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   
 
 
 Ben Winzenz
 Network Engineer
 Gardner  White
 (317) 581-1580 ext 418
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
 Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
 Conversation: Routine Maintenance
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
 They take a long time.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 me Im no guru like the other people here...
 so I let the server do it
 Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
 Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
 BLB!!)
 my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
 done...
 
 My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
 run's run's and run's
 
 OK once it a great while I reboot it
 some times I look at my log's..some times I dont
 
 If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
 while...or so...
 
 I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
 now where is that hammer..
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 Hello All.
 
 Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
 kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.
 
 Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?
 
 Exchange 5.5 sp4
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 Outlook 2000/XP clients
 
 Thanks!
 
 Samantha
 
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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Schwartz, Jim
There was an excellent explanation by Ed Woodrick on the topic of compacting
the Exchange store back on March 15, 2002 if you'd like to look in the
archives.

Unless asked for, I won't repost it.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


Not that I have seen.  From what I know MS Exchange just treats this as
space to stuff more stuff into.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:52 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Does large amount of white space increases chances of corruption?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Well we have about 20GB of white space right now.  I unfortunately 
 have to waste the time to do one.
 
 Alex
 -Original Message-
 From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I have had 2GB+ of whitespace
 
 But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just 
 you should do them?
 
 The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to 
 do a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services 
 anyway. Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes 
 an unnecessary interruption in uptime.
 
 As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing 
 one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within 
 your backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that 
 offline defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount 
 of deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of 
 whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you 
 are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
 while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   
 
 
 Ben Winzenz
 Network Engineer
 Gardner  White
 (317) 581-1580 ext 418
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
 Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
 Conversation: Routine Maintenance
 Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them. 
 They take a long time.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 me Im no guru like the other people here...
 so I let the server do it
 Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check 
 Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note 
 NO
 BLB!!)
 my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
 done...
 
 My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It 
 run's run's and run's
 
 OK once it a great while I reboot it
 some times I look at my log's..some times I dont
 
 If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a 
 while...or so...
 
 I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
 now where is that hammer..
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Routine Maintenance
 
 
 Hello All.
 
 Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what 
 kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.
 
 Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?
 
 Exchange 5.5 sp4
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 Outlook 2000/XP clients
 
 Thanks!
 
 Samantha
 
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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Shotton Jolyon
I'm having a little trouble finding this so if you could post it I'd be
grateful.

(I've been out of this sort of loop for a while - what happened to SWYNK?)

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There was an excellent explanation by Ed Woodrick on the topic of compacting
the Exchange store back on March 15, 2002 if you'd like to look in the
archives.

Unless asked for, I won't repost it.


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Re: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-22 Thread Missy Koslosky
Well, internet.com bought them, then they RIF'ed Stephen Wynkoop (the
swynk in swynk), and then they pretty much botched the list entirely.  I
think it's still running only because they've forgotten about its existence!

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snip
(I've been out of this sort of loop for a while - what happened to SWYNK?)


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RE: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history

2003-07-22 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Ta, Missy.

RIF'ed?  

Anyway I get the idea.  I remember the inernet.com takeover - they added
some branding and links to other of their sites.  Didn't seem that bad at
the time.  Clearly someone who didn't understand the value of what they had
made all sorts of wrong decisions.

What a distressing turn of events.

Where do people go now instead?  I particularly used to use swynk for their
SMS coverage and I may soon be getting back into this area.



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Sent: 22 July 2003 17:56
To: Exchange Discussions
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Well, internet.com bought them, then they RIF'ed Stephen Wynkoop (the
swynk in swynk), and then they pretty much botched the list entirely.  I
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Re: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history

2003-07-22 Thread Missy Koslosky
www.yahoogroups.com seems to have a lot of stuff - AD, W2K, E2K, E2K3, W2K3
lists.
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Ta, Missy.

RIF'ed?

Anyway I get the idea.  I remember the inernet.com takeover - they added
some branding and links to other of their sites.  Didn't seem that bad at
the time.  Clearly someone who didn't understand the value of what they had
made all sorts of wrong decisions.

What a distressing turn of events.

Where do people go now instead?  I particularly used to use swynk for their
SMS coverage and I may soon be getting back into this area.



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From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 July 2003 17:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Routine Maintenance


Well, internet.com bought them, then they RIF'ed Stephen Wynkoop (the
swynk in swynk), and then they pretty much botched the list entirely.  I
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RE: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history

2003-07-22 Thread Ben Winzenz
RIF

Reduction In Force.


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-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:13 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history
Subject: Re: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history


www.yahoogroups.com seems to have a lot of stuff - AD, W2K, E2K, E2K3,
W2K3 lists.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance - OT swynk history


Ta, Missy.

RIF'ed?

Anyway I get the idea.  I remember the inernet.com takeover - they added
some branding and links to other of their sites.  Didn't seem that bad
at the time.  Clearly someone who didn't understand the value of what
they had made all sorts of wrong decisions.

What a distressing turn of events.

Where do people go now instead?  I particularly used to use swynk for
their SMS coverage and I may soon be getting back into this area.



-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 July 2003 17:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Routine Maintenance


Well, internet.com bought them, then they RIF'ed Stephen Wynkoop (the
swynk in swynk), and then they pretty much botched the list entirely.
I think it's still running only because they've forgotten about its
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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Blackstone
Back it up.
Test your backups.
Read the Event Logs.
Verify your AV definitions are up to date.
Leave it alone.

Exchange is one of those products that really does run best when just left
alone. 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance

Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what kind
of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Mellott, Bill
me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R
It run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a while...or
so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what kind
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Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R
It run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or
so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind
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Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Couch, Nate
I don't run any offline defrags.  I leave that to Exchange's maintenance
routines which I have found reliable.

Beyond that I guess I would ask what other maintenance you want to know
about.  I have daily (check event logs and queues), weekly (AV DAT files
updates, drive space checks, etc.), and monthly (database size check,
traffic reports, etc.) duties I run.  Then I have stuff that I do as needed.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:26 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Routine Maintenance
 
 Hello All.
 
 Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what kind
 of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.
 
 Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?
 
 Exchange 5.5 sp4
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 Outlook 2000/XP clients
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Missy Koslosky
Why bother with them?
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R
It run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or
so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind
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Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Ben Winzenz
Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
you should do them?

The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
unnecessary interruption in uptime.

As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   


Ben Winzenz
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(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Routine Maintenance
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
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Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I have had 2GB+ of whitespace

But I still woudn't waste time on doing an offline defrag

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance

Why should you do offline backups?  What's the reasoning besides just
you should do them?

The only time that I would do an offline backup is if I was going to do
a major upgrade that required stopping the Exchange services anyway.
Other than that, doing an offline backup is silly.  It causes an
unnecessary interruption in uptime.

As for offline defrag, I've never done one, don't ever plan on doing
one.  As long as you've got plenty of storage space, and are within your
backup window, it's just not worth it.  The only times that offline
defrags are of any value are if you've made a massive amount of
deletions and want to reclaim the white space (largest amount of
whitespace I remember hearing about was 90gb of whitespace) or if you
are close to the 16gb limit in the Standard edition and need to stall
while you purchase the Enterprise edition.   


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


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From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Routine Maintenance


You should do offline backups too though. It's just when to do them.
They take a long time.  


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From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:33 PM
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me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check
done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R It
run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a
while...or so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
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Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what
kind of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-16 Thread Neil Hobson

Default settings are usually ok, but the main consideration is to ensure
that your backup schedule does not conflict with the IS maintenance
schedule.

Neil

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What is the best practice for IS maintenance??  Do you have it run
everyday, twice a week?  Also do you switch the view to 15 minute and
just add a block to the time you want IS maintenace to start??

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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-15 Thread Gary Aiston

The view we have is dont fix it if it isnt broken.  Although, if you have
recently migrated a lot of data off the server it may be worthwhile running
ESEUTIL to defrag the database, daily IS maintenance should take care of
defragmenting the databases though.

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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-15 Thread Atkinson, Daniel

mine is set to run early hours when the backup finishes. 

dan.

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 What is the best practice for IS maintenance??  Do you have it run
 everyday, twice a week?  Also do you switch the view to 15 
 minute and just
 add a block to the time you want IS maintenace to start??
 
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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

IMHO the best is default. Don't mess with it. It will thank you.

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What is the best practice for IS maintenance??  Do you have it run everyday,
twice a week?  Also do you switch the view to 15 minute and just add a block
to the time you want IS maintenace to start??

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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-15 Thread Gary Aiston

Apologies, misread the question, yes we run IS maintenance in the early
hours every morning.  Use whichever view you are comfortable with.

G

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RE: IS Maintenance

2002-01-15 Thread John Matteson

I've left the default settings in place, with the exception of Saturday and
Sunday where it runs all day both days. This is needed so that it gets
through at least one pass uninterrupted.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
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(404) 239 - 2981 
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