RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-25 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Event 1221 will give you a "guaranteed recovery" number
The /MS will give you a "best case for recovery" number

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:58 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Large IS DB
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


I only mention it because you haven't, but..
XADM: Database Does Not Shrink after Several Mailbox Deletions [Q192189]
talks of waiting a while before kicking off the eseutil. I don't think
it applies since you've done several offline defrags over time. Can't
hurt though. Also have a look at XADM: Determining Database Free Space
with Exchange 5.5 SP1 [Q195914] which would give a truer picture of free
space.

-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread paragon400

I will look into doing this as well.  Thanks for the suggestion John.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Have you run an ISINTEG on both the Priv and pub edb files? If you have
a lot of errors, it may keep the pages from being marked free.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary,
and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my
goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is
a path leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee



-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread John Matteson

Have you run an ISINTEG on both the Priv and pub edb files? If you have a
lot of errors, it may keep the pages from being marked free.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee



-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread paragon400

That second article should be some help.  Thanks Mark!

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


I only mention it because you haven't, but..
XADM: Database Does Not Shrink after Several Mailbox Deletions [Q192189]
talks of waiting a while before kicking off the eseutil. I don't think
it applies since you've done several offline defrags over time. Can't
hurt though. Also have a look at XADM: Determining Database Free Space
with Exchange 5.5 SP1 [Q195914] which would give a truer picture of free
space.

-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Mark Arnold ()

I only mention it because you haven't, but..
XADM: Database Does Not Shrink after Several Mailbox Deletions [Q192189] talks of 
waiting a while before kicking off the eseutil. I don't think it applies since you've 
done several offline defrags over time. Can't hurt though.
Also have a look at XADM: Determining Database Free Space with Exchange 5.5 SP1 
[Q195914] which would give a truer picture of free space.

-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread paragon400

We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have the option to 
view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but isn't usually that far out.
I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of white space but have you tried an offline 
defrag, in my experience you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Steve

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Kevin Miller

Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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