RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
Chris, Why is it a 'stupid' option for null senders? Cheers Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Well at the moment I'm unable to access an Exchange 2000 admin program to pinpoint the answer to your questions... but the null sender message filtering option is is under whatever the top object is in the admin (Global Settings?) on a message filtering tab I believe. The other option is found on the default SMTP virtual server I believe. However, I'm old and tired so my memory might be totally off. -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 12/17/2001 3:15 PM Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox It's set on the SMTP virtual server. Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid option and b. non-RFC compliant. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox Hi Everyone, I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND or A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your administrator. our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6 or The format of the e-mail address is incorrect. Check the address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From , message blocked. Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that holds the highest priority. This puzzles me. The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can not find where to turn this off. The setting under the virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group? Thanks for your insights. Tim Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony UK. (05) ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
RFC 2821 states that MTAs must accept all mails from , as they are delivery notification messages. Bouncing them, as a lot of mailers do, is not RFC compliant and a bloody nuisance :-) Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 10:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Chris, Why is it a 'stupid' option for null senders? Cheers Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Well at the moment I'm unable to access an Exchange 2000 admin program to pinpoint the answer to your questions... but the null sender message filtering option is is under whatever the top object is in the admin (Global Settings?) on a message filtering tab I believe. The other option is found on the default SMTP virtual server I believe. However, I'm old and tired so my memory might be totally off. -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 12/17/2001 3:15 PM Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox It's set on the SMTP virtual server. Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid option and b. non-RFC compliant. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox Hi Everyone, I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND or A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your administrator. our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6 or The format of the e-mail address is incorrect. Check the address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From , message blocked. Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that holds the highest priority. This puzzles me. The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can not find where to turn this off. The setting under the virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group? Thanks for your insights. Tim Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony UK. (05
RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
Cheers for the info Phil -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox RFC 2821 states that MTAs must accept all mails from , as they are delivery notification messages. Bouncing them, as a lot of mailers do, is not RFC compliant and a bloody nuisance :-) Cheers, Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 10:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Chris, Why is it a 'stupid' option for null senders? Cheers Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Well at the moment I'm unable to access an Exchange 2000 admin program to pinpoint the answer to your questions... but the null sender message filtering option is is under whatever the top object is in the admin (Global Settings?) on a message filtering tab I believe. The other option is found on the default SMTP virtual server I believe. However, I'm old and tired so my memory might be totally off. -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 12/17/2001 3:15 PM Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox It's set on the SMTP virtual server. Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid option and b. non-RFC compliant. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox Hi Everyone, I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND or A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your administrator. our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6 or The format of the e-mail address is incorrect. Check the address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From , message blocked. Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that holds the highest priority. This puzzles me. The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can not find where to turn this off. The setting under the virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group? Thanks for your insights. Tim Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony
RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox It's set on the SMTP virtual server. Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid option and b. non-RFC compliant. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox Hi Everyone, I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND or A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your administrator. our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6 or The format of the e-mail address is incorrect. Check the address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From , message blocked. Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that holds the highest priority. This puzzles me. The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can not find where to turn this off. The setting under the virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group? Thanks for your insights. Tim Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
Well at the moment I'm unable to access an Exchange 2000 admin program to pinpoint the answer to your questions... but the null sender message filtering option is is under whatever the top object is in the admin (Global Settings?) on a message filtering tab I believe. The other option is found on the default SMTP virtual server I believe. However, I'm old and tired so my memory might be totally off. -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 12/17/2001 3:15 PM Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox It's set on the SMTP virtual server. Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid option and b. non-RFC compliant. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox Hi Everyone, I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND or A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded between two recipients. Contact your administrator. our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6 or The format of the e-mail address is incorrect. Check the address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From , message blocked. Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that holds the highest priority. This puzzles me. The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can not find where to turn this off. The setting under the virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group? Thanks for your insights. Tim Hooks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
