RE: NDR From Field
sorry, i think you are misunderstanding me. I'm bemoaning the fact that it appears that i could see who it was from / to on an exch5.5 system but now after an upgrade migration to exch2k I cannot see who it was from - can see who it is To ok after I click the 'send again'. Rob -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 October 2002 18:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR From Field The NDR should look something like: --- The original message was received at Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:26:43 GMT from localhost [127.0.0.1] with id g9BEQhG06871 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp-gw-4.msn.com.: >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown --- And will contain one or more attachments, which are the original message. Open that and you'll see who it was addressed to and from. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:45 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > I can see to whom it was sent so can fwd if necessary . If > the rfc states that it should be dropped then I can't see it - > right? > In that case, how can I see it on an exch5.5 box with basic > mail client (ie not outlook?) > bit annoying that really > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 October 2002 14:03 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > Nope. By the rules (RFC 2821), all non delivery messages are > to have null > from addresses - <>, in order to indicate to the mailer > daemon that if it > can't be delivered, it should be dropped. > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > > > > > I have seen that and I assumed it was a bcc. > > > > > > Dave Stevens > > -IT Network Support- > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 865-576-8898 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:58 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > > > The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to > > whom it was sent. > > > > NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. > > > > -- > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: NDR From Field > > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > > > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > > > > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > > > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > > > I cannot tell who it is from. > > > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > > > could be wrong tho. > > > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > > > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > > > thanks > > > > > > Support Analyst > > > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > > > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > > > Keynsham > > > Bristol > > > BS31 1TZ > > > UK > > > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > > > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > > > deem
RE: NDR From Field
The NDR should look something like: --- The original message was received at Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:26:43 GMT from localhost [127.0.0.1] with id g9BEQhG06871 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (reason: 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to smtp-gw-4.msn.com.: >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown --- And will contain one or more attachments, which are the original message. Open that and you'll see who it was addressed to and from. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:45 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > I can see to whom it was sent so can fwd if necessary . If > the rfc states that it should be dropped then I can't see it - > right? > In that case, how can I see it on an exch5.5 box with basic > mail client (ie not outlook?) > bit annoying that really > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 October 2002 14:03 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > Nope. By the rules (RFC 2821), all non delivery messages are > to have null > from addresses - <>, in order to indicate to the mailer > daemon that if it > can't be delivered, it should be dropped. > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > > > > > I have seen that and I assumed it was a bcc. > > > > > > Dave Stevens > > -IT Network Support- > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 865-576-8898 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:58 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > > > The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to > > whom it was sent. > > > > NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. > > > > -- > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: NDR From Field > > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > > > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > > > > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > > > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > > > I cannot tell who it is from. > > > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > > > could be wrong tho. > > > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > > > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > > > thanks > > > > > > Support Analyst > > > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > > > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > > > Keynsham > > > Bristol > > > BS31 1TZ > > > UK > > > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > > > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > > > deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and > > > the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. > > > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group > > > Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not > > > copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] t
RE: NDR From Field
I can see to whom it was sent so can fwd if necessary . If the rfc states that it should be dropped then I can't see it - right? In that case, how can I see it on an exch5.5 box with basic mail client (ie not outlook?) bit annoying that really -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 October 2002 14:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR From Field Nope. By the rules (RFC 2821), all non delivery messages are to have null from addresses - <>, in order to indicate to the mailer daemon that if it can't be delivered, it should be dropped. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > I have seen that and I assumed it was a bcc. > > > Dave Stevens > -IT Network Support- > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 865-576-8898 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:58 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to > whom it was sent. > > NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: NDR From Field > > > > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > > I cannot tell who it is from. > > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > > could be wrong tho. > > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > > thanks > > > > Support Analyst > > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > > Keynsham > > Bristol > > BS31 1TZ > > UK > > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > > deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and > > the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. > > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group > > Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not > > copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. > > > > intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom
RE: NDR From Field
I have seen that and I assumed it was a bcc. Dave Stevens -IT Network Support- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 865-576-8898 -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: NDR From Field The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to whom it was sent. NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:Rob.Hackney@;tkcsales.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: NDR From Field > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > I cannot tell who it is from. > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > could be wrong tho. > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > thanks > > Support Analyst > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > Keynsham > Bristol > BS31 1TZ > UK > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and > the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group > Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not > copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. > > intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR From Field
Nope. By the rules (RFC 2821), all non delivery messages are to have null from addresses - <>, in order to indicate to the mailer daemon that if it can't be delivered, it should be dropped. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:StevensMD@;oro.doe.gov] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > > I have seen that and I assumed it was a bcc. > > > Dave Stevens > -IT Network Support- > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 865-576-8898 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:58 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: NDR From Field > > > The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to > whom it was sent. > > NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:Rob.Hackney@;tkcsales.co.uk] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: NDR From Field > > > > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > > I cannot tell who it is from. > > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > > could be wrong tho. > > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > > thanks > > > > Support Analyst > > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > > Keynsham > > Bristol > > BS31 1TZ > > UK > > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > > deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and > > the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. > > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group > > Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not > > copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. > > > > intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR From Field
The NDR should contain the original message to tell you to whom it was sent. NDRs are required to have null <> sender addresses. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -Original Message- > From: Rob Hackney [mailto:Rob.Hackney@;tkcsales.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:49 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: NDR From Field > > > Hi, I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to > find anything on technet/google/archives: > > I'm receiving all the ndr's (mostly for old email addresses) > for our organisation but the from field is being stripped so > I cannot tell who it is from. > i'm sure that I could a month or so ago but now cannot - > could be wrong tho. > I managedto have this setup using the mail client and exch > 5.5 but not now. ANy ideas anyone? > thanks > > Support Analyst > T.K.C. Sales Ltd. > 5 Ashmead Industrial Estate > Keynsham > Bristol > BS31 1TZ > UK > Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302 > > > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of > the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be > deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and > the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group > Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not > copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. > > intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
