RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
MS Word has the Revision feature built-in


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From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:12 PM
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Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

With all do respect, I don't want to argue the symantics of the issue.
I understand public keys and digital signatures but that isn't what I
need for this solution.  I am sorry that the phrases are the same but I
am not aware of that the catch phrase is for what I require.  What I
need is to attach a signature(1) (with a time stamp) to either a word
document or a Outlook form.  

(1)The signature being a digitized version of the persons actual
signature.

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Digital Signature means key. Public key.



-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

I am actually looking for a process for people to sign (digitally) a
document then pass it on to the next person.  This will be an internal
application so the need for an actual key isn't necessary.  A date/time
stamp would be nice as would some sort of historical tracking.



- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread Bailey, Matthew
I am actually looking for a process for people to sign (digitally) a
document then pass it on to the next person.  This will be an internal
application so the need for an actual key isn't necessary.  A date/time
stamp would be nice as would some sort of historical tracking.



- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread knighTslayer
D'oh, wrong tree!

Thought I had someone to talk to about S/MIME then, I feel so alone.
Will it ever take off...?!

;)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 18:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I am actually looking for a process for people to sign (digitally) a
document then pass it on to the next person.  This will be an internal
application so the need for an actual key isn't necessary.  A date/time
stamp would be nice as would some sort of historical tracking.



- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread Bailey, Matthew
With all do respect, I don't want to argue the symantics of the issue.
I understand public keys and digital signatures but that isn't what I
need for this solution.  I am sorry that the phrases are the same but I
am not aware of that the catch phrase is for what I require.  What I
need is to attach a signature(1) (with a time stamp) to either a word
document or a Outlook form.  

(1)The signature being a digitized version of the persons actual
signature.

Thanks,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Digital Signature means key. Public key.



-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

I am actually looking for a process for people to sign (digitally) a
document then pass it on to the next person.  This will be an internal
application so the need for an actual key isn't necessary.  A date/time
stamp would be nice as would some sort of historical tracking.



- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread knighTslayer
Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

2003-08-14 Thread Ed Crowley
Try http://www.80-20.com. 

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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures

I am actually looking for a process for people to sign (digitally) a
document then pass it on to the next person.  This will be an internal
application so the need for an actual key isn't necessary.  A date/time
stamp would be nice as would some sort of historical tracking.



- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



-Original Message-
From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


Matt,

If you mean S/MIME when stating digital signatures, then your solution
may be problematic or difficult to achieve.

A digital signature only provides security by showing the recipient that
the sender is authentic (by checking their certificate is valid) and
that the message hasn't been tampered with in transit.  It also carries
the senders public key for encryption purposes, if configured.  As I
understand it.

The problem with email is that you can never guarantee that the message
has been read by the recipient unless you get them to purposely
acknowledge the receipt of a message.



k

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey,
Matthew
Sent: 13 August 2003 17:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Paperless workflow and digital signatures


I have been asked to research the possibility to use Exchange
2000/Outlook to setup a paperless workflow for certain internal forms
(PO's, RFCE's, etc.).  We currently have the forms saved (Word Doc) on a
common share.  It is filled out, printed, and hand delivered to the
approving parties.

My boss would like to see us use Exchange/Outlook to do a paperless
workflow using digital signatures for approval.  I have never looked
into this so I would appreciate any suggestions from your experiences.

I know the solution needs to be easy to use for the end-user and the
cheaper the better.

TIA,

- Matt

Matthew Bailey
LAN Engineer
CSK Auto, Inc.
Voice: 602.631.7486
Fax: 602.294.7486



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