RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Edwards, Aaron

I feel your pain. We are using SMTP relay and I've had several of our users
complaining of getting duplicate messages from particular people and vice
versa. I've scanned our Exchange servers for viruses and they came up clean.
We're using Antigen for our Exchange antivirus. Don't know if that would
make a difference or not. One thing that has seemed to temporarily help is
clearing out the queue in the IMS and rebooting the server.

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Are you sure it's not an inbox assistant rule creating a copy?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


We turned it off but she is still getting duplicates.
She has had two in the last hour since we turned it off.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

The SMPT Fixup is part of the PIX.  It is well documented that for the "BAS"
(c) syndrome and cause freaky problems such as the one you're experiencing
now.  I suggest you disable it and use an SMTP relay of some kind. 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates? I'll be
honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person. This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Kevin Lundy

Are you sure it's not an inbox assistant rule creating a copy?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


We turned it off but she is still getting duplicates.
She has had two in the last hour since we turned it off.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

The SMPT Fixup is part of the PIX.  It is well documented that for the "BAS"
(c) syndrome and cause freaky problems such as the one you're experiencing
now.  I suggest you disable it and use an SMTP relay of some kind. 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates? I'll be
honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person. This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Vincent Avallone

We turned it off but she is still getting duplicates.
She has had two in the last hour since we turned it off.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

The SMPT Fixup is part of the PIX.  It is well documented that for the
"BAS"
(c) syndrome and cause freaky problems such as the one you're
experiencing
now.  I suggest you disable it and use an SMTP relay of some kind. 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates? I'll be
honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn
somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes
the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of
email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Vincent Avallone

I had the network admin turn it off and we will see if the problem goes
away.
It does look like that if we disable SMTP Fixup we leave ourselves a bit
more open for attacks.  I will have to button up my exchange box even
tighter.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

The SMPT Fixup is part of the PIX.  It is well documented that for the
"BAS"
(c) syndrome and cause freaky problems such as the one you're
experiencing
now.  I suggest you disable it and use an SMTP relay of some kind. 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates? I'll be
honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn
somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes
the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of
email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Ely, Don

The SMPT Fixup is part of the PIX.  It is well documented that for the "BAS"
(c) syndrome and cause freaky problems such as the one you're experiencing
now.  I suggest you disable it and use an SMTP relay of some kind. 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates? I'll be
honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person. This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Waters, Jeff

It's the nature of the beast, it can affect 1, 2, 10, or all of your e-mail.
Also you might only have one person complaining.  Go to you networking group
and ask them to put the "no fixup protocol smtp 25" command into the config
for the box.  SMTP fixup is the mail guard feature of the pix, and this is a
known problem with it.  
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates?
I'll be honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn
somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes
the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of
email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Vincent Avallone

Why would only one person in our company be getting duplicates?
I'll be honest. I have no idea what SMTP Fixup even is.  Ya gotta learn
somewhere.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes
the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of
email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Vincent Avallone

We sure are.

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Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
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-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This person says she is able to send email to other people and they are
not getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side, but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY
email server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here
comes the newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a
piece of email is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Waters, Jeff

yep, and a new network guy... "hey we should be running this, after all it's
a Fixup!"

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person. This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Ely, Don

My money says yes and they have the SMTP Fixup Enabled

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages


are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person. This
person says she is able to send email to other people and they are not
getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their side,
but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY email
server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here comes the
newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a piece of email
is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I have no
information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Receiving Duplicate Messages

2002-06-21 Thread Waters, Jeff

are you behind a PIX Firewall?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Receiving Duplicate Messages


Hello All,
I have a W2k box with Exchange 2000 SP2.
I have a user who is getting duplicate messages from 1 specific person.
This person says she is able to send email to other people and they are
not getting duplicates.  I really think that there is a problem on their
side, but I will investigate things here. Do you have ideas as to why MY
email server would be duplicating email messages for one user only? Here
comes the newbie questionIs there a way I can monitor or check if a
piece of email is being duplicated by exchange?

Thanks for any help.  I don't know the person sending the mail, so I
have no information on their setup.  I will be trying to call their LAN
administrator and figure it all out.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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