RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Probably your IP change has not propagated to all DNS servers.


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Ok, heres a report from network-tools

Interestingly, the address it picks up for our mailgate is wrong, its
our
old one
 about 10 days ago we switched from 62.49.146.170 to 80.176.164.194

If I do an nslookup - set type=mx - partition.co.uk
Then it gives me the right gateway, can you possibly try for me and see
what
you get?

It might explain why our non-delivery of mail is intermittent (though
only 1
in 30 will get through, for example)

Can anyone decipher this for me?

canonical address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

MX records preference exchange IP address (if included) 
10 mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]  <<< this is the old
mailgate address
100 relay-1.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
100 relay-2.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
SMTP session 

[Contacting mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]...]
[Timed out]
[Contacting relay-1.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.51]...]
[Connected]
220 relay-1.mail.demon.net ESMTP Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:50:01 +
EHLO Network-Tools.com
250-relay-1.mail.demon.net Hello Network-Tools.com [66.46.181.116]
250-SIZE
250-PIPELINING
250 HELP
NOOP *** See <http://www.hexillion.com/MailAdmin/> for an explanation of
this session
250 OK
NOOP *** HexValidEmail COM 1.2

250 OK
RSET
250 Reset OK
VRFY support
252 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
EXPN support
550 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 OK
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 Accepted
RSET
250 Reset OK
QUIT
221 relay-1.mail.demon.net closing connection
[Connection closed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov,
Andrey
Sent: 11 December 2003 18:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Start doing various Telnet tests on port 25 (from outside to your
firewall,
from firewall to the Exchange server).

You can go to http://www.network-tools.com and from there you could do a
variety of tests too.

For example, you could stick your e-mail address there, then select
E-mail
Validation, then click Submit --- you will actually see the conversation
between their mail server and your mail server (or your firewall).



-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind
Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked
fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching
the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall
and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can
eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
This is what I get from our DNS servers:

Non-authoritative answer:
partition.co.uk MX preference = 100, mail exchanger =
relay-1.mail.demon.net
partition.co.uk MX preference = 100, mail exchanger =
relay-2.mail.demon.net
partition.co.uk MX preference = 10, mail exchanger =
mailgate.partition.co.uk

partition.co.uk nameserver = ns0.demon.co.uk
partition.co.uk nameserver = ns1.demon.co.uk
partition.co.uk nameserver = ns2.demon.net
mailgate.partition.co.ukinternet address = 62.49.146.170
ns0.demon.co.uk internet address = 158.152.1.65
ns1.demon.co.uk internet address = 158.152.1.193
ns2.demon.net   internet address = 209.246.126.109

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov. Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Ok, heres a report from network-tools

Interestingly, the address it picks up for our mailgate is wrong, its
our
old one
 about 10 days ago we switched from 62.49.146.170 to 80.176.164.194

If I do an nslookup - set type=mx - partition.co.uk
Then it gives me the right gateway, can you possibly try for me and see
what
you get?

It might explain why our non-delivery of mail is intermittent (though
only 1
in 30 will get through, for example)

Can anyone decipher this for me?

canonical address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

MX records preference exchange IP address (if included) 
10 mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]  <<< this is the old
mailgate address
100 relay-1.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
100 relay-2.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
SMTP session 

[Contacting mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]...]
[Timed out]
[Contacting relay-1.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.51]...]
[Connected]
220 relay-1.mail.demon.net ESMTP Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:50:01 +
EHLO Network-Tools.com
250-relay-1.mail.demon.net Hello Network-Tools.com [66.46.181.116]
250-SIZE
250-PIPELINING
250 HELP
NOOP *** See <http://www.hexillion.com/MailAdmin/> for an explanation of
this session
250 OK
NOOP *** HexValidEmail COM 1.2

250 OK
RSET
250 Reset OK
VRFY support
252 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
EXPN support
550 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 OK
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 Accepted
RSET
250 Reset OK
QUIT
221 relay-1.mail.demon.net closing connection
[Connection closed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov,
Andrey
Sent: 11 December 2003 18:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Start doing various Telnet tests on port 25 (from outside to your
firewall,
from firewall to the Exchange server).

You can go to http://www.network-tools.com and from there you could do a
variety of tests too.

For example, you could stick your e-mail address there, then select
E-mail
Validation, then click Submit --- you will actually see the conversation
between their mail server and your mail server (or your firewall).



-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind
Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked
fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching
the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall
and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can
eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Niki Blowfield
Ok, heres a report from network-tools

Interestingly, the address it picks up for our mailgate is wrong, its our
old one
 about 10 days ago we switched from 62.49.146.170 to 80.176.164.194

If I do an nslookup - set type=mx - partition.co.uk
Then it gives me the right gateway, can you possibly try for me and see what
you get?

It might explain why our non-delivery of mail is intermittent (though only 1
in 30 will get through, for example)

Can anyone decipher this for me?

canonical address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

MX records preference exchange IP address (if included) 
10 mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]  <<< this is the old
mailgate address
100 relay-1.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
100 relay-2.mail.demon.net [0.0.0.0] 
SMTP session 

[Contacting mailgate.partition.co.uk [62.49.146.170]...]
[Timed out]
[Contacting relay-1.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.51]...]
[Connected]
220 relay-1.mail.demon.net ESMTP Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:50:01 +
EHLO Network-Tools.com
250-relay-1.mail.demon.net Hello Network-Tools.com [66.46.181.116]
250-SIZE
250-PIPELINING
250 HELP
NOOP *** See <http://www.hexillion.com/MailAdmin/> for an explanation of
this session
250 OK
NOOP *** HexValidEmail COM 1.2 
250 OK
RSET
250 Reset OK
VRFY support
252 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
EXPN support
550 Administrative prohibition
RSET
250 Reset OK
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 OK
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 Accepted
RSET
250 Reset OK
QUIT
221 relay-1.mail.demon.net closing connection
[Connection closed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: 11 December 2003 18:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Start doing various Telnet tests on port 25 (from outside to your firewall,
from firewall to the Exchange server).

You can go to http://www.network-tools.com and from there you could do a
variety of tests too.

For example, you could stick your e-mail address there, then select E-mail
Validation, then click Submit --- you will actually see the conversation
between their mail server and your mail server (or your firewall).



-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Start doing various Telnet tests on port 25 (from outside to your
firewall, from firewall to the Exchange server).

You can go to http://www.network-tools.com and from there you could do a
variety of tests too.

For example, you could stick your e-mail address there, then select
E-mail Validation, then click Submit --- you will actually see the
conversation between their mail server and your mail server (or your
firewall).



-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind
Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked
fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching
the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall
and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can
eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Martin Blackstone
Go into Log, Log Settings, at the bottom check on Dropped TCP Connections 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

Surely the firewall logs must show which SMTP connections are accepted or
dropped.
 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread David, Andy
Surely the firewall logs must show which SMTP connections are accepted or
dropped.
 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Martin Blackstone
They will if you crank up the logging 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niki Blowfield
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Niki Blowfield
They don't show errors, just blocked websites and such, they arent very
detailed 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

What do the firewall logs show? 

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From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread David, Andy
What do the firewall logs show? 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server


 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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RE: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-11 Thread Ely, Don
The address you have which I assume is your firewall is not accepting
connections.  Look at your firewall logs... 

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Not Reaching Exchange Server

 Hi,
 
Running MS Exchange Server 5.5 SP4 on Windows NT4
 
Single server environment, server sits on private address behind Sonicwall
ProVX firewall
 
Firewall forwards all SMTP to this server which has the IMC, has worked fine
for a number of years
 
Mail has stopped reaching mailboxes, and doesnt appear to be reaching the
Exchange Server at all
 
I would ordinarily suspect the firewall, but you can telnet to our
mailserver successfully and send an email from there
 
Our MX record points to mailgate.partition.co.uk which resolves to our
Sonicwall ProVX
 
Any ideas? I dont know a great deal about the Sonicwall
 
I guess i could move the NT server temporarily to outside the firewall and
give it the address of mailgate.partition.co.uk to see if i can eliminate
the firewall
 
Thanks
 
Nik



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