RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'd agree with you on that - a failure to resolve any domain information
should probably generate a 554 error and terminate trying.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 Yeah, I understand a timeout when the destination domain has 
 MX records but the remote server is not answering because it 
 may be temporarily down. But when the remote domain does not 
 even exist in DNS that should be a different story.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Hobson [mailto:Neil.Hobson;silversands.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 
 Probably because the message is waiting to hit the expiration timeout
 value set in the SMTP VS.
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com] 
 Posted At: 16 October 2002 14:31
 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
 Conversation: a wish
 Subject: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
 to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry 
 queues if there
 are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?
 
 For example if I send a message to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
 see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
 unable to bind to the destination server in DNS
 
 Thanks!
 
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RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-17 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
I have figured screw it. It will bounce eventually.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues


I'd agree with you on that - a failure to resolve any domain information
should probably generate a 554 error and terminate trying.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 Yeah, I understand a timeout when the destination domain has 
 MX records but the remote server is not answering because it 
 may be temporarily down. But when the remote domain does not 
 even exist in DNS that should be a different story.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Hobson [mailto:Neil.Hobson;silversands.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 
 Probably because the message is waiting to hit the expiration timeout
 value set in the SMTP VS.
 
 Neil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov;innerhost.com] 
 Posted At: 16 October 2002 14:31
 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
 Conversation: a wish
 Subject: SMTP retry queues
 
 
 Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
 to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry 
 queues if there
 are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?
 
 For example if I send a message to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
 see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
 unable to bind to the destination server in DNS
 
 Thanks!
 
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RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-16 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar

Waiting for a time out perhaps?

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 October 2002 03:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP retry queues

Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry queues if there
are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?

For example if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
unable to bind to the destination server in DNS

Thanks!

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RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-16 Thread Neil Hobson


Probably because the message is waiting to hit the expiration timeout
value set in the SMTP VS.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 16 October 2002 14:31
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: a wish
Subject: SMTP retry queues


Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry queues if there
are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?

For example if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
unable to bind to the destination server in DNS

Thanks!

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RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-16 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

That's what I am thinking... it's like giving me a grace period to fix my DNS servers 
:)

But it is a real pain when one gets spammed and then there are a lot of messages 
sitting in the queues for 2 days targeting bogus domains.



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues


Exchange is hoping that the DNS server is just down.. It is obeying the
retry settings you have for the SMTP virtual server. 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, Exchange MVP, And Beyond


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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP retry queues


Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry queues if there
are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?

For example if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
unable to bind to the destination server in DNS

Thanks!

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RE: SMTP retry queues

2002-10-16 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Yeah, I understand a timeout when the destination domain has MX records but the remote 
server is not answering because it may be temporarily down. But when the remote domain 
does not even exist in DNS that should be a different story.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP retry queues



Probably because the message is waiting to hit the expiration timeout
value set in the SMTP VS.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 16 October 2002 14:31
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: a wish
Subject: SMTP retry queues


Hey all. I am looking for someone who is smarter than me :) to explain
to me why Exchange 2000 is keeping messages in the retry queues if there
are no DNS records for the messages' destination domains?

For example if I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I can
see a retry queue for boguscrapdoesnotexist.com, and it is marked
unable to bind to the destination server in DNS

Thanks!

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