Re: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
-Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. On Fri September 20 2002 21:24, Julian Stone wrote: It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone Given that it requires Advanced Server or Datacenter to run on, you have an interesting definition of free. so long as you engage MCS or other qualified partner Microsoft will let you have MMS for nothing :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
I'm not too sure where you got that info from, as I'm running it quite happily on a standard server, and yes I've done the training course, and are an M$ gold partner. Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Mark Rowlands [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 September 2002 10:44 am To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. On Fri September 20 2002 21:24, Julian Stone wrote: It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone Given that it requires Advanced Server or Datacenter to run on, you have an interesting definition of free. so long as you engage MCS or other qualified partner Microsoft will let you have MMS for nothing :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
I was told by MS that it was free but I had to hire Microsoft Consulting Services in order to use it. I need to sync several databases including AD and it sounded like a good way of doing it. Unfortunately, the salesperson from MS I talked to wanted to turn it in to some huge project including a reporting module and something to do with BizTalk - it sounded extremely expensive. Luckily she never called back. We are now thinking about hiring a full time programmer to tackle this and several other little projects we have. Jeff Hague -Original Message- From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I'm not too sure where you got that info from, as I'm running it quite happily on a standard server, and yes I've done the training course, and are an M$ gold partner. Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Mark Rowlands [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 September 2002 10:44 am To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. On Fri September 20 2002 21:24, Julian Stone wrote: It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone Given that it requires Advanced Server or Datacenter to run on, you have an interesting definition of free. so long as you engage MCS or other qualified partner Microsoft will let you have MMS for nothing :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
On Sat September 21 2002 13:19, Julian Stone wrote: I'm not too sure where you got that info from, as I'm running it quite happily on a standard server, and yes I've done the training course, and are an M$ gold partner. Yours, Julian Stone from MS themselves.. Installing and Exploring Microsoft Metadirectory Services published March 2002 as part of course #2062a :- Implementing Microsoft Metadirectory services. -Original Message- From: Mark Rowlands [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 September 2002 10:44 am To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. On Fri September 20 2002 21:24, Julian Stone wrote: It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone Given that it requires Advanced Server or Datacenter to run on, you have an interesting definition of free. so long as you engage MCS or other qualified partner Microsoft will let you have MMS for nothing :-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
www.mail-resources.com | web links | server | directory management -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
What about Microsoft Meta Services (MMS) if the other systems have a LDAP directory store. Paul -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory What about Microsoft Meta Services (MMS) if the other systems have a LDAP directory store. Paul -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
You can also use Perl via LDAPS to do this (even a script running on a Linux box). -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory What about Microsoft Meta Services (MMS) if the other systems have a LDAP directory store. Paul -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory What about Microsoft Meta Services (MMS) if the other systems have a LDAP directory store. Paul -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory
It's free, but shipping and handling comes to about $30,000. You have to sign up for X hours of consulting to get the product. What you end up with is a proprietary database (that's going to be retired soon) and a proprietary scripting engine. You have to write your own scripts to sync to other directories. We tried it, but in the end, it ended up being to cumbersome and too slow to be usable, so it was abandoned. Take my advice: learn Perl and the Net::LDAP utility. You can easily create contacts for your non-exchange users. Heck, if you use Net::LDAP, you can even run your scripts on a Unix/Linux box. -Original Message- From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory It's a free product, but you must be trained in it's use, otherwise you can cause havoc or even worse... Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 19:43 pm To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory I think you have to sign some kind of pact with Microsoft in order to get your hands on Metadirectory Services. That's what I read on the MMS website. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory What about Microsoft Meta Services (MMS) if the other systems have a LDAP directory store. Paul -Original Message- From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory CSVDE LDIFDE -Original Message- From: Bare, Ronald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Tools for Maintaining Active Directory We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL. What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
