RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread David, Andy
Tumbleweed rocks.


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From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
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Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Neil Hobson
Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K
users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
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2   425.793.6000
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov,
Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate
machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
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Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread David, Andy
I just got rolled with about nine OOFS.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(  425.254.4845
)   425.681.4190
2   425.793.6000
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

-Original Message-
From: internet.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Should we call you Dave or David? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

I just got rolled with about nine OOFS.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(  425.254.4845
)   425.681.4190
2   425.793.6000
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

-Original Message-
From: internet.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread David, Andy
Mighty Hercules will suffice.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Should we call you Dave or David? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

I just got rolled with about nine OOFS.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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)   425.681.4190
2   425.793.6000
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

-Original Message-
From: internet.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Didn't that one girl call you Spanky?  ;0)

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From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Mighty Hercules will suffice.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Should we call you Dave or David? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

I just got rolled with about nine OOFS.


-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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)   425.681.4190
2   425.793.6000
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate machine
and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

-Original Message-
From: internet.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed


Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Hague, Jeff
Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for 1500 
mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
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Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

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Yes.
Exchange 2K
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900 users

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread David, Andy
No idea.
http://www.tumbleweed.com/en/products/appliance_edition.html
But, they are pricey for sure. Securemail will run you about 10k.


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Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
1500 mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
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Randolph-Macon College
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Yes.
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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse,
Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple
of Ferraris (including support)

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
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Jeff Hague
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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Hague, Jeff
So in todays-money, I can excpect 3 Ferrari's and maybe a Mercedes rag-top or two? I 
think I have them laying around Physical Plant. Maybe I can keep 1 of the Mercs if I 
scrub the support...

Jeff

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Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse,
Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple
of Ferraris (including support)

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
1500 mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
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Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

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Yes.
Exchange 2K
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900 users

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Schwartz, Jim
IIRC they've changed their pricing structure from per seat to per proc.

Huge difference. Why don't you call them and find out.

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So in todays-money, I can excpect 3 Ferrari's and maybe a Mercedes rag-top
or two? I think I have them laying around Physical Plant. Maybe I can keep 1
of the Mercs if I scrub the support...

Jeff

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From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse,
Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple of
Ferraris (including support)

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
1500 mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
MCSE
Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

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Subject: Re: Tumbleweed


Yes.
Exchange 2K
FE/BE Topology
900 users

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread David, Andy
Yep. They changed to that about a year ago. Not sure if that applies to
appliances however. 


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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


IIRC they've changed their pricing structure from per seat to per proc.

Huge difference. Why don't you call them and find out.

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From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


So in todays-money, I can excpect 3 Ferrari's and maybe a Mercedes rag-top
or two? I think I have them laying around Physical Plant. Maybe I can keep 1
of the Mercs if I scrub the support...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse,
Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple of
Ferraris (including support)

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
1500 mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
MCSE
Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

-Original Message-
From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Tumbleweed


Yes.
Exchange 2K
FE/BE Topology
900 users

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Hague, Jeff
I like to have some idea before unleashing any sales pitches these days. Over the last 
year I have inquired on about 5 different products (spam, backup, file management - 
different things) and every one of them is way beyond our reach bit I cant get the 
damn salespeople to stop calling me! I really dont have time for it.  If its gonna be 
10grand plus, I know we wont buy it so Id rather have some idea upfront before 
unleashing the dogs of Sales...

Jeff

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From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


IIRC they've changed their pricing structure from per seat to per proc.

Huge difference. Why don't you call them and find out.

-Original Message-
From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


So in todays-money, I can excpect 3 Ferrari's and maybe a Mercedes rag-top
or two? I think I have them laying around Physical Plant. Maybe I can keep 1
of the Mercs if I scrub the support...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Back in 1998 when we implemented it for 20,000 users at Credit Suisse,
Tumbleweed with the SEC-compliant Message Archival cost roughly a couple of
Ferraris (including support)

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Anyone know offhand what a Tumbleweed appliance would cost (roughly) for
1500 mailboxes?

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
MCSE
Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

-Original Message-
From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Tumbleweed


Yes.
Exchange 2K
FE/BE Topology
900 users

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Arlo Clizer
We had 60Mph winds last night. They FLY!

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Really?  I thought it rolled. 

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Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
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Tumbleweed rocks.



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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Dude!!

You're at WSU in Pullman?

I'm in the SE WA State in the Tri-Cities!!  Weren't those winds terrible?
Wind like that really plays havoc with our microwave towers.

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We had 60Mph winds last night. They FLY!

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Really?  I thought it rolled. 

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Tumbleweed rocks.



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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Arlo Clizer
Yeah, it made a mess. It also caused a pretty big blackout over in Moscow
last night. Go cougs ;)

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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:11 AM
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Dude!!

You're at WSU in Pullman?

I'm in the SE WA State in the Tri-Cities!!  Weren't those winds terrible?
Wind like that really plays havoc with our microwave towers.

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We had 60Mph winds last night. They FLY!


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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Robert Blomquist
I was just looking for an SMTP relay that has other abilities (i.e. anti-spam) and we 
checking out Tumbleweed's appliance. Does anyone have an opinion on this one or others 
I could investigate? (like there's any shortage of opinions around here!)

I just signed on to the list so I may have missed any recent discussions on the 
matter. Translation - please don't hammer me for asking what may seem to be a 
redundant question. I don't mind doing my homework but don't know what products are 
out there and worth looking into.

Thanks,

Robert Blomquist 
Supervisor of Information Technology 
Sabic Americas, Inc. 

-Original Message-
From: Arlo Clizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


We had 60Mph winds last night. They FLY!

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.



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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Arlo Clizer
Hit up the web interface for the list. Lots of chatter lately about
tumbleweed, etc. I've heard very good things about tumbleweed from various
people.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Blomquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

I was just looking for an SMTP relay that has other abilities (i.e.
anti-spam) and we checking out Tumbleweed's appliance. Does anyone have an
opinion on this one or others I could investigate? (like there's any
shortage of opinions around here!)

I just signed on to the list so I may have missed any recent discussions on
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be a redundant question. I don't mind doing my homework but don't know what
products are out there and worth looking into.

Thanks,

Robert Blomquist 
Supervisor of Information Technology 
Sabic Americas, Inc. 



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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
As an SMTP engine, Tumbleweed is quite powerful.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Robert Blomquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

I was just looking for an SMTP relay that has other abilities (i.e.
anti-spam) and we checking out Tumbleweed's appliance. Does anyone have
an opinion on this one or others I could investigate? (like there's any
shortage of opinions around here!)

I just signed on to the list so I may have missed any recent discussions
on the matter. Translation - please don't hammer me for asking what may
seem to be a redundant question. I don't mind doing my homework but
don't know what products are out there and worth looking into.

Thanks,

Robert Blomquist 
Supervisor of Information Technology 
Sabic Americas, Inc. 

-Original Message-
From: Arlo Clizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


We had 60Mph winds last night. They FLY!

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Really?  I thought it rolled. 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 29 October 2003 13:43
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Tumbleweed
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed


Tumbleweed rocks.



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Re: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Steve
I have used Tumbleweed's SecureMail in a 100,000+ seat Exchange shop and I
can certainly vouch for them.  Solid product with top notch performance. 
It backends on SQL, which allows for some pretty nifty stuff that you can
do as an admin (assuming you know SQL...always a good time to learn).  Out
of the box you really don't need to know SQL to use it, but if you wanted
to tweak it you certain could with some well executed SQL queries.  I
have seen a single Tumbleweed box push out over 50,000 messages an hour in
production and not break a sweat.

The AV component is nice, but the content filters are really nice and
really powerful in the right hands (it does take awhile to get the content
filter just right...which is true of any content filter I think).

Anyhow..I would highly recommend it if you can afford it.

 Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?
 
 Thanks
 
 Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-29 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
That's how I became a SQL specialist :)

Before I only knew how to install SQL. After I could write some
kick-butt queries and stored procedures.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Tumbleweed

I have used Tumbleweed's SecureMail in a 100,000+ seat Exchange shop and
I
can certainly vouch for them.  Solid product with top notch performance.

It backends on SQL, which allows for some pretty nifty stuff that you
can
do as an admin (assuming you know SQL...always a good time to learn).
Out
of the box you really don't need to know SQL to use it, but if you
wanted
to tweak it you certain could with some well executed SQL queries.  I
have seen a single Tumbleweed box push out over 50,000 messages an hour
in
production and not break a sweat.

The AV component is nice, but the content filters are really nice and
really powerful in the right hands (it does take awhile to get the
content
filter just right...which is true of any content filter I think).

Anyhow..I would highly recommend it if you can afford it.

 Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?
 
 Thanks
 
 Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-28 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate
machine and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

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Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-28 Thread Anthony Sollars
Yep exactly Andrey, we use it here very successfully for about 16K users.

Anthony L. Sollars
Technology Consultant
Information Technology Division, PACCAR Inc.
480 Houser Way North, Renton Wa., 98055
*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(  425.254.4845
)   425.681.4190
2   425.793.6000
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

Last time I used Tumbleweed, it did not care whether it was used with
Exchange or any other mail system. It was installed on a separate
machine and talked SMTP on port 25 with the Exchange server.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed

We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

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Has anyone used tumbleweed with Exchange 2000?

Thanks

Richard Tracy

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RE: Tumbleweed

2003-10-27 Thread Aaron Greer
We use it here at Hilton. Exchange 2000, with about 10k users.

-A

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Thanks

Richard Tracy

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Re: Tumbleweed

2003-10-26 Thread John Q Jr.
Yes.
Exchange 2K
FE/BE Topology
900 users

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Thanks

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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-27 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Actually they renamed it again.  It's no longer MMS.  Now they call it
Secure Mail.  

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


You can't really blame Kmart for this one.G Just remember, it all started
going downhill with the name change from Worldsecure to Tumbleweed MMS.

Tom.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

You can't do that.  Tumbleweed doesn't plug in to Exchange.  The other way
around is feasible though.  Use Tumbleweed as your DMZ SMTP and utilize SMTP
mail scanning and use ScanMail internally.

We've been using Tumbleweed for a few years now and I'm afraid their support
has gone downhill since we purchased it [1].  Now they want to charge us an
outrageous amount for a version upgrade (more expensive than the original
purchase price) even though we have always had maintenance.  I would really
consider other products before committing yourself.  MailSweeper and Praetor
are the ones that I had liked.

S.

[1] Everything that touches Kmart seems to start having problems [2] [2]
Which explains the slow but steady decline in my mental stability.


-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would not dump scanmail...maybe I could leave Trend on the internet
gateway and run Tumbleweed internally in order to have dual coverage. just
an idea.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would stay with Scanmail. Why dump something that works perfect

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague. I
would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-26 Thread Soysal, Serdar

You can't do that.  Tumbleweed doesn't plug in to Exchange.  The other way
around is feasible though.  Use Tumbleweed as your DMZ SMTP and utilize SMTP
mail scanning and use ScanMail internally.

We've been using Tumbleweed for a few years now and I'm afraid their support
has gone downhill since we purchased it [1].  Now they want to charge us an
outrageous amount for a version upgrade (more expensive than the original
purchase price) even though we have always had maintenance.  I would really
consider other products before committing yourself.  MailSweeper and Praetor
are the ones that I had liked.

S.

[1] Everything that touches Kmart seems to start having problems [2]
[2] Which explains the slow but steady decline in my mental stability.


-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would not dump scanmail...maybe I could leave Trend on the internet
gateway and run Tumbleweed internally in order to have dual coverage.  just
an idea.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would stay with Scanmail. Why dump something that works perfect

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague. I
would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-21 Thread Martin Blackstone

I would stay with Scanmail. Why dump something that works perfect

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague. I
would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-21 Thread Andy David

We use the Tumbleweed MMS here. I have to admit I miss Antigen, but
Tumbleweed seems up to the anti-virus task. 
And it allows you to add really neat disclaimers to all your emails...



-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague.
I would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-21 Thread Barry Patterson

LOL. Even when you don't want them? :)

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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:35 PM
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We use the Tumbleweed MMS here. I have to admit I miss Antigen, but
Tumbleweed seems up to the anti-virus task.
And it allows you to add really neat disclaimers to all your emails...



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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


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with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague.
I would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?

2001-12-21 Thread Stevens, Dave

I would not dump scanmail...maybe I could leave Trend on the internet
gateway and run Tumbleweed internally in order to have dual coverage.  just
an idea.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tumbleweed Antivirus?


I would stay with Scanmail. Why dump something that works perfect

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To: Exchange Discussions
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We currently use Trend Micro Scanmail 3.52 and I couldn't be any happier
with it.  However, there is a plan in place to globally purchase the
Tumbleweed Product.  'They' want to know if we are intersted in using it if
they do purchase for the entire site.  Does anyone have any experience with
Tumbleweed?  I've never heard of it and their website is a bit vague. I
would have a very hard time scrapping scanmail, they have saved our butts
many times.  Maybe I could make a dual effort fighting  the virus attacks.
thanks...

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RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, neither of those products is cheap, so depending on how one defines
cost effective it might be worth looking at other products
(www.mail-resources.com has a list). I've found mimesweeper to be a bit more
reliable in my testing, but that was quite a while ago.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Thanks for the response.
 
 There are about 100 useres, and we mainly want it to:
 
 
 1: Scan all email and quantine for;
   i.   Virus
   ii.  Specific words incoming and outgoing
   iii. Stop specific attachments i.e. .vbs files
 2: Add a disclaimer
 3: Cost effective
 4: Archive all emails sent and received
 
 Thanks
 
 Vas
 
 
 
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 Sent: 07 November 2001 22:58
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper
 
 
 How large of an organization and what are the operational 
 parameters they must meet (in order of importance preferably)?
 
 Chris
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  Hi all
  
  I have been to both websites and have read up on tumbleweed
  and mimesweeper for SMTP.  They both do the job, and they 
  both sound really good... Which one has the edge on the other 
  tho...  Any advice?
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
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